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07-23-2002, 02:17 PM
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Wow, Davis has the most complicated Greek system I've ever seen ...
So they have NPC sororities: AChiO, KKG, A Phi, Chi O, Pi Phi, Tri-Delt, DG and Theta. And Alpha Kappa Delta Phi, the Asian interest sorority, is a member of the Panhellenic Council.
Then there are three NPHC sororities: AKA, DST, and SGRho. I'm assuming there is a PanHellenic Council, too.
Not unusual so far ... But wait, there's more! There are two multi-cultural sororities (Phi Gamma Theta and Alpha Sigma Rho). There is Sigma Alpha, an ag sorority. There is SAEPi, the subject of MTV. And then there are six other sororities that don't have websites or names I recognize (ADOmega, LDG, Lambda Theta Nu, Omega Xi Phi, Chi Delta Theta, and Sigma Omicron Pi).
Are these other sororities not part of the local NPC or NPHC by choice, or do they have their own council? I can't imagine being a rushee with all these bewildering choices. I'm used to, you either do formal rush/COB or you choose an NPHC group to rush. If you wanted to check out all your options here, you would have to attend so many meetings and rushes! Theoretically I support a diversity of options for rushees, but this seems crazy! Maybe it makes more sense if you're there.
I agree with my sister XiLovin - it's not so much that these SAEPi girls are bad, but you wonder, wouldn't another chapter have been a better fit for them? Which leads me to uncharitable thoughts as to why they picked Sigma - the MTV angle - but I'd like to think they had better motivations.
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07-23-2002, 02:26 PM
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Fuzziealum, I couldn't agree more. Also, chantilly lace, you are right on the money in my opinion.
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07-23-2002, 02:27 PM
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apparently all the AZD's are in agreement today, bc i totally concur. As I have said from the begining, these girls (candace and Jordan and even Jessica a little bit) don't fit in what mtv has portrayed sigmaAETT to be like. And I also am for diversity and letting PNM's have lots of choices, however i think maybe at davis there are too many choices.
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07-23-2002, 02:27 PM
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Let's all say it: EDITING!!!
This show is being edited creatively as is every other "reality" show on MTV....I'd bet my fuzzy bunny on it.
1. The retreat being "sprung" on the house pledges. We are given no timeline between the meeting where the non-house pledge said "this house sucks!" and the retreat. For all we know, there was a 2-3 week notice to the house pledges that this would be happening. I know even in a small group, a retreat takes a lot of planning. They didn't announce it one day and have it the next. Come on, that's just not realistic.
2. The Sigmas being "un-fun." I think it's more that they probably went to the bars or restaurants where MTV was not allowed to film (and they knew it). They know that even if you have one beer, MTV will use it to promote the "sorority = alcohol" image.
I have no problem with Jordan and Candace going to the bar...I have a HUGE problem if they left a retreat to do it. If you can't give a weekend of your life for a sisterhood retreat, you shouldn't even be pledging. It just confirms that J & C are only there for the cameras.
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07-23-2002, 02:59 PM
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UCDavis is like many other colleges in this country as far as the amount of diverse sororities that are on the campuses. What you all have to realize is that a couple of the sororities that were method were asian-interest and some of the others are latina. So you wouldn't go to ALL of their informations. If you are interested in joining an asian sorority, you only have to go to two informations. If you are interested in joining a multicultural sorority, you only go to two informations also. Don't knock the college for having a wide range of choices so that everyone can find their place.
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07-23-2002, 03:16 PM
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No one was "knocking" the college for its diversity. Fuzziealum was simply pointing out that the system seems confusing and might be overwhelming.
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07-23-2002, 04:15 PM
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I have to stick up for Jessica. For some reason I dont see her as being a butt kisser and I dont think anyone ever said that she was the "model" pledge. IMO, she is being real and honest. Jordan and Candace are being real and honest also, but you definately see a small show being put on for the camara's also.
Ok so when Canadace and Jordan asked if the other 5 girls in the house were welcomed to come to the party (non-sigma function) that the girls were having she smiled and didnt respond. It was a "what do you think?" type question. They had made NO attempts to even get to know the other pledges outside of the house and even admitted they kind of secluded themselves off. No offense, but of course your probably not invited, they dont know you really and you dont seem to want to know them.
As far as the meeting they had about the house and Jessica didnt have to attend. She gave them the message Becca told her to give them. They asked her if the whole house had to go and she said no, she wasnt included.
When they even asked her if she would tell on them she was like, I dont care what you do, you're grown. Even though I feel loyal to the sisters I wouldnt tell. She has never said she didnt drink or party or dance. She's even admitted she's a partier. To me she's been just plain honest and real so far.
As far as the sisters only seeming to spy. Its aq college town and we all know that everyone goes to the same places in college. Even on my campus of 40,000 I bumped into sisters everyplace I went. Plain and simple if you get caught, you get caught.
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07-23-2002, 04:38 PM
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I don't understand what the problem with Jessica is...what exactly has she done??? So far we have seen that she is quiet among girls who have talked crap about her from the nite she moved in, and also abandoned her when she needed them to pick her up. I don't recall her ever telling her housemates NOT to party or to "tone things down," nor do I recall her saying, "oh, I don't party or drink, it's bad." I DO recall her saying that hey, she likes to go out too, she just doesn't feel like doing it in the house, but that's her decision and she would not get invovled in the decisions of others, nor would she try to get them in trouble as they so retardedly assumed for so long. So...what exactly has this girl DONE. I mean, come on, if there was really some shady drama going on, MTV would have been sure to catch it, and as it is they have had a tough enough time making random blah scenes interesting.
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07-23-2002, 04:42 PM
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I don't have any problem with Davis having Latina sororities, etc. But I do think that if the Greek life office wants to properly support Greek life, they ought to make it more clear on their website what the different sororities are about. Most GL sites have a page of brief stats on groups - or allow them to put in their own mission statement. Right there a rushee could see, "OK, these are the Latina sororities, these are what I'm interested in."
I know actual students may not get their info from the website. But with that many groups to choose from, how do they find out about them on campus? If you know nothing about Greeks, how do you even find out that Latina or Asian sororities exist? Most people know about NPC groups and NPHC groups if they know anything (and lots of us didn't going into college).
As it is, I think it would be hard to make an _informed_ decision about which sorority to choose. For example, if I went to UC Davis, I'd probably consider the NPC sororities and the multi-cultural ones. But I'm willing to bet I'd hear all about formal rush long before I found out what the different multi-cultural groups have to offer. It's in the interest of all the Greeks on campus to make expressing an interest in Greek life easy and to let potential members know what their organizations have to offer.
That doesn't mean they all have to do formal rush NPC style, but I sure hope there is some sort of rush/Greek life booklet that tells women what their options are, how to rush each group, etc.!
Like I said, perhaps being on campus all this is clearer, but I get the impression Greek Life isn't well coordinated at Davis, and the groups aren't necessarily working together to benefit them all. That is, if the website is any indication, and it may not be.
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07-23-2002, 05:19 PM
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The more I watch this show, the more I think that it is an accurate portrayal of the pledging process.
Sure, at times some of them are a bit wild, but every pledge class has a few women that need to learn how to represent themselves as a member of their new sorority.
The underlying theme is that these pledges are learning about themselves and growing through Sigma. The scene with Jordan and Candace in the bathroom could have happened in any one of our houses. The bonds of sisterhood that are being shown make me proud to be Greek.
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07-23-2002, 05:50 PM
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Re: Let's all say it: EDITING!!!
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Originally posted by 33girl
This show is being edited creatively as is every other "reality" show on MTV....I'd bet my fuzzy bunny on it.
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Even though I know this show is being "creatively edited," there is only so much MTV can do with editing...all that stuff happened. If you spend five hours a day on your hair, booty dance at the bar, and drink like a fish...that's right folks...MTV is going to portray you as the house lush/wild child/tramp! And if you study and behave, you're going to be portrayed as the butt-kisser/boring one/odd man out...or you'll just be left off camera like Dede.
Does this stuff happen? Of course it does! We can probably relate 80% of it to our own chapters. My issue with the show is its context. Following the pledge process of six girls who you stick in an MTV house is not a portrayal of sorority life. You could film a show in a dorm with all these same rules and watch the same thing we're watching under the guise of a "sorority documentary."
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07-23-2002, 07:33 PM
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ok i might repeat what people have all ready posted, but i was too tired to read all the post. well you know how in the opening credits they show pictures of all of them.....well has anyone notice that in the last shot there are other sororities names written in the background. like Delta Delta Delta, Kappa Kappa Gamma, and Delta Gamma. are these sororities on ucdavis? or did they just write whatever sorority came to their head?
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07-23-2002, 08:50 PM
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Yes, I was wondering this as well! The "DG" letters caught my eye on the first airing and i've been curious ever since, SigKapQueen...
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07-23-2002, 08:54 PM
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So here is where people are now posting at MTV.com since the Sorority Life message board is down. Some of the SAEPi's have posted there too (they seem pretty legit, i.e: really don't seem like imposters...)
So go here and say what you think. It is actually on the Taildaters board...
*NEW* Sorority Life Message Board at MTV
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07-25-2002, 12:04 AM
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SL sucks!
Just wanted to add my two cents.
I personally hate the show Sorority Life. The only reason I find myself watching it is that maybe, just maybe, they will show something interesting. The girls do arts and crafts and leave whenever they want - WTF! If I ever left during an event all hell would have broken loose. I also think that Sorority Life gives a bad name to other sororities out there and for new girls who are going to rush this fall. We aren't all about drinking and partying, are we?! We are known to have our fun, but I think rushees look past that when we know, in our hearts, that we have other things to offer as a sorority. The show basically sucks in my words.
Does anybody actually agree?
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