IU PNM Numbers - Page 8

pinksequins · #1 01-20-2015, 05:20 PM

IndianaSigKap and Hoosier Girl (and any other IU alumnae), isn't harder to secure a place as an upperclassman at IU? If so, the cards that these PNMs are now holding may be the best that they will be dealt at any time. My sense is that the only criterion that might improve their future chances is being BFFs with half the chapter....

IUHoosiergirl88 · #2 01-20-2015, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by pinksequins

IndianaSigKap and Hoosier Girl (and any other IU alumnae), isn't harder to secure a place as an upperclassman at IU? If so, the cards that these PNMs are now holding may be the best that they will be dealt at any time. My feel is that the only criterion that might improve their chances is being BFFs with half the chapter.

Pinksequins, you're correct. It is much, much harder to 'improve your chances' as a sophomore at IU. You are competing against your GPA, your involvement, your reputation, and a larger number of 3-year dues/live in fees paying freshmen. Yes, even the top houses will take sophomores (very few), but the greater number will go to houses considered lower tier by PNMs, my own included. If you receive a bid at IU, I cannot recommend enough that you take it and give it a shot. If you still don't like it (after meeting your PC and the 90+ other girls you didn't talk to at recruitment), drop before initiation and go again next year.

No matter what, don't expect the houses you get back to change much unless you become BFFs with MANY members. Not just 1-2, but many. Houses will remember you from last year, and unless your excuse for dropping out was that you decided to move to Africa to deliver clean water...it won't win you any favors.

tlynn · #3 01-20-2015, 05:35 PM

As a IU mom of a sophomore also participating in rush, my advice to the moms and daughters who are wavering - accept your bid, try it. Tonight's going to be a lot of fun when you meet your chapters. If it ends up not being a good fit - you don't have to initiate, simple as that, but you may end up being pleasantly surprised. You are bound for a year to that organization regardless if you accept or decline at this point By signing your card, you actually agreed to accept your bid. If you don't initiate you can still participate in formal recruitment next year, but don't expect any miraculous differences. It will actually look worse next year if you go through recruitment and they know you declined your bid this year and Greeks do talk to each other. Good luck with your choices.

Griffins&Quills · #4 01-20-2015, 05:59 PM

Seconding what tlynn said.

And to add on, the new member period and active life are vastly different than the created environment of recruitment. PNMs need to take the time to try out houses and see what day to day sorority life is actually like after the emotional rollercoaster of recruitment.

pinksequins · #5 01-20-2015, 06:00 PM

Thank you IUHoosierGirl88. I think TLynn and her daughter have their heads on right about IU recruitment -- going for the sisterhood experience and fun.

IndianaSigKap · #6 01-20-2015, 06:25 PM

Sending out last minute good vibes to all involved parties tonight!

After how crazy last year's IU thread got, I am asking for everyone's patience tonight. Yes, there will be posts that are not very politically correct and maybe a few that are downright unkind. Try to remember that emotions are high tonight.

I have my snacks and am ready for the results to roll in. May the odds be ever in your favor. (Quick reference to last year's thread)

als463 · #7 01-20-2015, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by IndianaSigKap

Sending out last minute good vibes to all involved parties tonight!

After how crazy last year's IU thread got, I am asking for everyone's patience tonight. Yes, there will be posts that are not very politically correct and maybe a few that are downright unkind. Try to remember that emotions are high tonight.

I have my snacks and am ready for the results to roll in. May the odds be ever in your favor. (Quick reference to last year's thread)

Sorry, this was started by me. I was just seeing the same pattern over and over again. It gets annoying after a while but, as the IU alumna has asked--I won't post anything else about it. I love the reference. That's exactly what I'm thinking. It's very Hunger Games.

scrabblemomb · #8 01-20-2015, 09:08 PM

Wow, glad my daughter dropped out before the Hunger Games began (with snacks). She was not after top tiers and has not mentioned recruitment for next year. Just not her thing. Thanks for those who sent best wishes to her! I am a Greek Woman and know that it can be a great thing and had a great experience...but can't believe that so may are supporting such a destructive system.

IndianaSigKap · #9 01-20-2015, 09:14 PM

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Wow, glad my daughter dropped out before the Hunger Games began (with snacks). She was not after top tiers and has not mentioned recruitment for next year. Just not her thing. Thanks for those who sent best wishes to her! I am a Greek Woman and know that it can be a great thing and had a great experience...but can't believe that so may are supporting such a destructive system.

Please do not mock my posts, I have been nothing but kind. My Hunger Games reference is based on last year's thread and the fact that the author of the Hunger Games is an IU alumna. The snacks is a reference to the fact that I was hungry, I missed lunch today. You are reading snark into my posts where there truly is none.

als463 · #10 01-20-2015, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by IndianaSigKap

Please do not mock my posts, I have been nothing but kind. My Hunger Games reference is based on last year's thread and the fact that the author of the Hunger Games is an IU alumna. The snacks is a reference to the fact that I was hungry, I missed lunch today. You are reading snark into my posts where there truly is none.

Did not know that. Cool! Thanks for sharing that. Go Big Ten!

Eureka_mo · #11 01-20-2015, 11:28 PM

My daughter did receive a bid tonight, from an un-housed chapter. Her Rho Gamma advised her to go to the chapter and give it a shot, which she did. She felt lucky to get any bid at all. Many girls on her floor didn't make it to pref. round at all, or didn't get any chapters that appealed to them and dropped out.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the recruitment system is set up to be a mutual selection process. If one party or the other does not feel comfortable (at the very least) with moving forward, it would be in the best interest of the PNM and the chapter to end the relationship. This not only ensures that another girl could move into a spot better suited to her, but also a chapter which gains a committed new member.

The message I was trying to get across was that she just didn't make a connection with the three chapters during pref. round. She continued to visit these chapters with the hope of finding that connection, but it just didn't happen. The fact that they are un-housed was a consideration for her; the idea of possibly living in an apartment frightened her a bit.

NO ONE said that the un-housed chapters are "less" than other chapters. They simply didn't feel comfortable to her. There were other chapters with houses that also didn't feel comfortable, but those did not end up on her list.

As far as wanting my daughter to be a part of Greek life and also bashing the system, that's totally true. The problems are not the fault of the girls in the chapter houses. Every sorority member my daughter came into contact with during recruitment was nice to her, and she actually enjoyed the process and meeting all the girls. I just don't understand why IU/PHA allows the system to continue the way it is. Why are so many qualified young women turned away from an experience that would benefit not only the girls, but the university?

33girl · #12 01-20-2015, 11:50 PM

That last question has been discussed in the multitudinous IU threads on here.

Mutual selection exists up to a point, but at many schools, the balance is tipped towards either sororities or rushees, usually the sororities. It's not just IU.

AZTheta · #13 01-21-2015, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Eureka_mo

As far as wanting my daughter to be a part of Greek life and also bashing the system, that's totally true. The problems are not the fault of the girls in the chapter houses. Every sorority member my daughter came into contact with during recruitment was nice to her, and she actually enjoyed the process and meeting all the girls. I just don't understand why IU/PHA allows the system to continue the way it is. Why are so many qualified young women turned away from an experience that would benefit not only the girls, but the university?

Re: the bolded. In my opinion the "problems" with Indiana bed rush (no quota/total system) are "the fault of the girls in the chapter houses." They have their reasons for maintaining this system; they have the power to change it. They choose not to. The University and the Panhellenic Association cannot dictate membership to each chapter. These are private membership organizations and they alone determine membership.

If nothing changes, nothing changes.

thetalady · #14 01-20-2015, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by scrabblemomb

Wow, glad my daughter dropped out before the Hunger Games began (with snacks). She was not after top tiers and has not mentioned recruitment for next year. Just not her thing. Thanks for those who sent best wishes to her! I am a Greek Woman and know that it can be a great thing and had a great experience...but can't believe that so may are supporting such a destructive system.

Exactly WHO do you think is supporting the system at IU??? No one here. It is what it is. If the chapters at IU wanted to change things, I bet they would. Apparently the chapters on campus and the university are happy being the odd duck recruitment. I don't think that anyone here thinks that the situation there is a good situation.

suzy88 · #15 01-20-2015, 09:21 PM

I have two daughters at IU, one in a housed sorority. I really believe that the un-housed chapters are just as valuable as the others. My daughter would tell you that living in the house has disadvantages. It is crowded and girls don't always get along. However, I can tell you that the general perception around campus is that the un-housed are less desirable. Congratulations to the mature, thoughtful young women who can see past this silliness. A lot of women at this age aren't mature enough to see it. However, I understand why this perception is so prevalent, when the sorority community at IU is so focused on living in the house.