Alabama recruitment fall-out

[DubaiSis]

You're the "easy" one for that oh so hard to integrate chapter to "take a risk on" and I think you will probably do well. I (and probably everyone on this thread) will be interested to hear how it goes for you. Do NOT post as you go, but keep lots of notes to share after rush is over. You will be very easy to out as a real life person in rush.

The hard one to find, recruit, pledge and keep is the girl who would be a good candidate for an NPC chapter but who grew up in a less white neighborhood, didn't go to the virtually all white high school with the great ACT scores and state championship teams and doesn't have parents with advanced degrees and plenty of connected white friends. But that challenge should be at least ATTEMPTED by these chapters who want to reflect their campus and their state more closely. Just my opinion, of course.

[DrPhil]

There are also Black women from predominantly Black environments, all-Black friends and family, who are academically successful, and whose parents are educated and successful.

Being from a predominantly or all-Black environment can make it more difficult (not impossible) for academic success and socioeconomic status to buffer the impact of race. This can include recs being more difficult (not impossible).

[ComradesTrue]

Yes, Patty, what a wonderful attitude and we are definitely pulling for you.

I will offer the suggestion to make this post your one and only contribution to GC until after recruitment. You will be rather easy to identify, so better to not risk anything that could impact your recruitment.

Continue to hang around and read but fade into lurkerdom until late August. We hope that you will have happy news to share with us come that time, so please do come back and let us know how you are doing.

[BAckbOwlsgIrl]

Here is my experience....
Shortly after the stoneage, when I was a PNM, I remember going through Rush at a large competitive school. I remember turning my head and seeing a black member on Set 2. No two women were a like.

As much as I WANTED to be a part of the blonde-cheerleader house or my legacy house, I was a little captivated by the diversity of that house. I was not targeting a house with a minority population. It just added to the appeal. Coming from an affluent bedroom community with few minorities, I was intrigued. Sure we had a few black people and a handful of hispanics but nothing like this. I had always wanted to be part of that cheerleader in-crowd. I think that a lot of PNMs still want that to this day.

I got dropped from blond-cheerleader house. One of the Jewish houses had a black member. However, to be honest, aside from her, they sounded like a bad episode of Jersey Shore and that was before the show. That was so not my style.

I am sure that you all know where this is going, but, I wound up pledging that diverse house. We were the most diverse house on campus; Latinas, Jews, Christians, Mormon and Blacks. I always wondered what those black sisters felt like pledging an NPC when clearly, they could have gone NPHC. I was never prouder of my chapter. It wasn't easy, far from it. I think that now days, it would be much easier for us. As for that first black sister that I saw during Set 2, she had the same major as me. I loved seeing her on campus. There were few sisters in our major.

As for that Blonde cheerleader house, the following year, they took a black woman. She was half white, half black as we were told. It was a big step for them and the Greek community as whole. The campus was shocked that if any of the chapters on campus would take a black, it would not be them. They were very WASPy. I remember talking to some fraternity guys about it, one whose girl friend was a member of that chapter and no one wanted to talk about. No one wanted to talk about diversity. It was as if, no one wanted to admit that the chapters weren't diverse, especially considering our location. A few of the fraternities had black members. Everyone had several Asians and Hispanics. But, albeit my chapter and another, noneof the sororities had blacks.

I really can say that our black sisters were treated just like everyone else. No one was offered a bid because she was black. We just liked them. I even remember learning a little about hair extensions.

[chi-o_cat]

Originally Posted by BAckbOwlsgIrl

As for that Blonde cheerleader house, the following year, they took a black woman. She was half white, half black as we were told. It was a big step for them and the Greek community as whole. The campus was shocked that if any of the chapters on campus would take a black, it would not be them.

Wow.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by BAckbOwlsgIrl

I really can say that our black sisters were treated just like everyone else.

No. No you can't.

[DrPhil]

My outsider opinion/

I think this is another scapegoat thread in which people type in circles and are eager to find reasons to sing Kumbaya, which is what happened when pattypnm123 (who may or may not really be a pnm) posted. Pattypnm123's post wasn't really that positive and upbeat considering she was only saying "I'm a Black person from a white environment...I fit in with the white people...I hope I don't get discriminated against...I will stay upbeat and see what happens."

I think people were too eager to make that the eureka and kumbaya moment of this thread because race discussions apparently need eureka and kumbaya moments. Now the attention has turned to Low D Sharp, which I understand in a general sense, but that's another scapegoat from deeper racial issues pertaining to this thread topic. That's all.

/My outsider opinion

[LAblondeGPhi]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

My outsider opinion/

I think this is another scapegoat thread in which people type in circles and are eager to find reasons to sing Kumbaya, which is what happened when pattypnm123 (who may or may not really be a pnm) posted. Pattypnm123's post wasn't really that positive and upbeat considering she was only saying "I'm a Black person from a white environment...I fit in with the white people...I hope I don't get discriminated against...I will stay upbeat and see what happens."

I think people were too eager to make that the eureka and kumbaya moment of this thread because race discussions apparently need eureka and kumbaya moments. Now the attention has turned to Low D Sharp, which I understand in a general sense, but that's another scapegoat from deeper racial issues pertaining to this thread topic. That's all.

/My outsider opinion

I totally jumped on this bandwagon, but I also felt that PattyPNM expressed a really positive recruitment attitude regardless of race. I'm happy to applaud any PNM who comes across as particularly mature and open-minded.

Also, I was beginning to go down a rabbit hole of ridiculous debate, so I was happy for the uplifting distraction.

[FSUZeta]

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[DrPhil]

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[MaryPoppins]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

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[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

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Originally Posted by MaryPoppins

I. Died.

[DrPhil]

[AnchorAlumna]

I guess this thread has officially jumped the shark.
Since I can't figure out how to do it, feel free to post any appropriate .gifs.

[MaryPoppins]

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