Paula Deen's use of the "N"-Word

[WCsweet<3]

To be honest, I'm going to try to stay out of this conversation, mainly because others are able to explain my points much better than I ever could.

For those saying "my family didn't own slaves so I never benefited: Ugh, really? There is this lovely thing called accumulation and disaccumulation of wealth (not just income, but actual wealth) based on race. If your family was in the US before the 1960s, you benefited. You most likely benefited from being white after the 1960s, but I'm just going to focus on the first part. Watch the first 13 minutes of this video by Tim Wise. Yes, he is southern and his family did own slaves, but this applies to the entire nation. My family didn't own slaves either, but that doesn't mean the system has been working in our favor for hundreds of years.

And with this I will let those more eloquent than I to continue

[UVA17]

Phil talks, and this is what the rest of us hear:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJyfozezSpI

[AZTheta]

/swerve:

it's TOE the party line, not TOW. Is the party line a tugboat? Didn't think so. Please use correct vocabulary. Don't blame it on your phone or auto correct or whatever. There is no acceptable excuse for sloppiness in written language.

#annoyed

end of swerve/

[DrPhil]

Isn't Mizeree the username that I call IotaGuy? Are you the same IotaGuy who I think you are? You're married to that woman you typed about in the D&R thread? I've been gone a few months but I'm confused as hell.

[DrPhil]

Kevin has told Black Americans what we should do, told us that the TransAtlantic Slave Trade ultimately rescued us, and has demanded GC solutions to existing inequalities. My leader Nelson Mandela would be proud. We of the African diaspora can sit in those lovely chairs and go "lalalalallalaalalalalalallaahhhhh...."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHmBr6rlCRo

[Mizeree I2K]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Isn't Mizeree the username that I call IotaGuy? Are you the same IotaGuy who I think you are? You're married to that woman you typed about in the D&R thread? I've been gone a few months but I'm confused as hell.

Same dude.

Originally Posted by DrPhil

*doing a Kwanzaa dance and Kwanzaa call...lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalahhhh!!! *

CTFU! This is some funny ass shit LOL!

Originally Posted by amIblue?

I also missed the wedding, but knew you were engaged! Congratulations and best wishes to both of you!

Thanks.

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Kevin has told Black Americans what we should do, told us that the TransAtlantic Slave Trade ultimately rescued us, and has demanded GC solutions to existing inequalities. My leader Nelson Mandela would be proud. We of the African diaspora can sit in those lovely chairs and go "lalalalallalaalalalalalallaahhhhh...."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHmBr6rlCRo

I'm done fuckn with KKKevin.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Mizeree I2K

Same dude.

I now have jokes for days but I will leave you alone. I wish you well.

Originally Posted by Mizeree I2K

CTFU! This is some funny ass shit LOL!

I only speak Swahili, Shona, Kirundi, and Black English. Thanks to Kevin, I am tired of being an appreciatively assimilated Black American relegated to Swahili birth names, African garb, and Ebonics. I am now unappreciative and say to hell with the Queen's English.

LOL
(Lunga Olihi Lunga)

Originally Posted by Mizeree I2K

I'm done fuckn with KKKevin.

Nah, Kevin is not even remotely KKK material. He has a different opinion rooted in what many would consider prejudices unintentionally conducive to racist ideologies and racist institutions. However, just as I stopped spelling America with a KKK, I do not insult people who engage in these types of honest discussions by spelling their name with a KKK. Kevin can "respectfully kiss my ass" and whatever else I typed to him without the KKK reference.

******

Oh snap, Smithfield!

http://www.today.com/food/paula-deen...ods-6C10423983

This is just like any other circumstance in which people can use liberated voices and purchasing power to speak out.** Everyone doesn't have to agree with the perceived offense or outcome but enough people have to agree and the right (that isn't a typo, not "white") people have to agree.

**It is interesting that quite a few power minority groups around the world eventually speak out against perceived injustices (Jews, LGBT, etc.). Only certain power minority groups are told to relax and to not use their voice and purchasing powers to protest and potentially get money makers shut down. That is one of the reasons why social change is so difficult. The power dominant groups are still the ones who determine whether the concerns and potential for social change are worthwhile and valid (for example, people in this thread saying "talk about Mandela instead" and "this is glitching").

[LXA SE285]

Her magazine could be next to go:

http://www.al.com/entertainment/inde..._magazine.html

[DrPhil]

First off, this entire thing is not just about that specific racial slur. It is about a whole bunch of craziness going on at "Paula Deen's crib", some of which is race-related.

I saw parts of the interview and it reminded me of Dog the Bounty Hunter's Larry King interview. Like I said 3 pages ago:

Originally Posted by DrPhil

**It is interesting that quite a few power minority groups around the world eventually speak out against perceived injustices (Jews, LGBT, etc.). Only certain power minority groups are told to relax and to not use their voice and purchasing powers to protest and potentially get money makers shut down. That is one of the reasons why social change is so difficult. The power dominant groups are still the ones who determine whether the concerns and potential for social change are worthwhile and valid (for example, people in this thread saying "talk about Mandela instead" and "this is glitching").

As always, certain minority groups are asked to have a "Come to Jesus" meeting and decide as a collective to silence all of the dissents. I would love for the mainstream to petition to other minority groups (such as ethnic Jews, LGBT, etc.) to definitively forgive and shut up about the topic. But, that will never happen. (No, not everyone in a group holds the same opinion. We do not have the same brain, thought processes, opinions, and behavioral patterns.)

I do not dislike Paula Deen. Responding to these types of things does not require hatred or dislike for a person. It takes much more than this unexcitedly stereotypical scenario to elicit such response from me. What these types of issues require (not from everyone but from those who are moved by the topic) is intolerance for certain actions and dynamics. It is not about changing personal opinions and changing whether they do racially intolerant things in their spare time. It is about voicing an opinion and showing purchasing power for Deen and companies that sponsor her. It is also about telling people that we cannot change your mind but we can hit your pocket if your mind begins to translate into hiring practices, workplace dynamics, and overall treatment of people. It is about saying that we will leave you alone about your individual personality quirks and controversial sense of humor if you will shut the hell up and not force other people to endure.

People should support Paula Deen if they like her products. However, if they support Paula Deen because they respect her freedom to not censor herself when appropriate, those supporters can choke on it. Would Paula Deen and her sons have started preaching if Deen's money wasn't messed with? Maybe, maybe not.

I know one thing, it annoys me to no end when people use phrases like "he who is without sin cast the first stone" for these types of things. When Paula Deen said that during the interview, I wanted to smack the TV screen. Idiots around the world, you WILL be judged for certain things by imperfect people. Think about that before you show your ass. We all make mistakes but do not preach to people, just APOLOGIZE and face the consequences. Idiots. The fact that Paula Deen used excuses about her background and the "he who is without sin" thing instead of just apologizing and facing the consequences, made me think she isn't really sorry. She's just saving face and saving her brand/money. It is one of the oldest tricks in the book.

[SWTXBelle]

Linguistic Swerve - Should it be "home's" or "Holme's", "homes" or "Holmes"? I found http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=holmes and http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=homes, so it looks like both are contextually correct.

[DrPhil]

I will always have a GC Crush on MysticCat. I hope he wasn't GC Stolen while I was away.

This Borderline GC Race War was interesting enough. UVA17 has typed every predictable message board cliche' in the book and is impressed with himself/herself (we've seen much better). Perhaps he/she is really a teenager who is at least one generation younger than some of us in this thread. Only a teenager would be so impressed with his/her attempts to offend older people with message board cliche'. The humor of UVA17 aside, everything he/she has typed actually solidifies this thread topic. I doubt he/she would have wasted the keyboard if I was assumed to be a white person. He/she definitely would not have joked about an "angry Black woman", bitterness over racial issues that he/she finds funny, and the Damon Wayans youtube would not have been used.

PDITY? (Paula Deen Is That You?)

[AZTheta]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I will always have a GC Crush on MysticCat. I hope he wasn't GC Stolen while I was away.

Yes, actually, he was. Wasn't even 24 hours before the vultures moved in.

Too bad, so sad.

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by AZTheta

Yes, actually, he was. Wasn't even 24 hours before the vultures moved in.

Too bad, so sad.

Out of sight, out of mind, you know.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by AZTheta

Yes, actually, he was. Wasn't even 24 hours before the vultures moved in.

Given that vultures only move in on the dead or dying, I think I'm a little troubled by the implications here.

[StealthMode]

I saw that name and stopped cold. I thought it might be a joke or some sockpuppetry.