Tri-Sigma Sorority

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Well, we have 2 AXiDs saying different things - one says that the material from HQ says Sigma Nu's NOT their brother fraternity, and one says that the material says they ARE. I'm just going by what the sisters themselves are saying.

So am I, and it seems to me that way too much is being read into what they are saying and way too much is being assumed about what they said.

I read the comments together and what I take from it is that there is no official relationship, but that Alpha Xi Delta likes to think of Sigma Nu as its "brother fraternity" and refers to it as such. AXIDplace4me'smost recent post above would seem to indicate I have been reading them as the writers intended them to be read.

[33girl]

You can't have it both ways.

All I know is this: there is no such thing as a national, constitutional, official bond between any NPC group and NIC group. I don't know why anyone in a sorority (other than Zeta Phi Beta) would want to muddy the waters by referring to anyone as their "brothers."

Delta Gamma brings up the Phi Delta Theta connection on their website, but they also say that it's a myth that they are their "brother" fraternity. I see several individual AXiD chapter sites that refer to the Sigma Nus as brothers, but on the national website, while the support and contributions of Sigma Nu are acknowledged, the word "brother" is never mentioned.

http://www.alphaxidelta.org/heritage_founders.asp

[PinkRose1098]

Originally Posted by banditone

In the words of founder Julia Foster, "Five of the 10 founders married Sigma Nus. The other half of us failed."


Awesome

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

Is that a real quote?

Wow.

I think the comment by Julia Maude Foster was more off-hand and meant to be funny. I would probably say the same thing of any of my close chapter sisters who has the "misfortune" to marry a gentleman from the "other" school in our state.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by 33girl

I see several individual AXiD chapter sites that refer to the Sigma Nus as brothers, but on the national website, while the support and contributions of Sigma Nu are acknowledged, the word "brother" is never mentioned.

I'm not sure you read very closely.

Because the Sigma Nus wanted to do something nice for their new Greek sisters to mark this special occasion, two of them outraced two Phi Delts to buy up the box seats for a performance of “Othello,” being presented at the auditorium on April 25. The Alphas and the Sigs enjoyed the play immensely. The Quills were finally ready on April 26, and one of the Founders noted on the card to which these stickpin badges were attached, “too late for ‘Othello’.” Bertha Cook Evans recalled years later that the badges cost $1.25 each, dues were 25 cents a term, and each girl paid an equal share of expenses for parties. The parties were usually held at Alice Bartlett’s home because she was the only town girl in the group.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by AXIDplace4me

Both of us have been supporting the idea of Sigma Nu being our brother fraternity. The reason why i said that they "aren't" is because it isn't in the constitution, but we like to think of them as our "brother fraternity" any way.

The relationship is sentimental, not official. I don't think anyone has ever represented it in any other way.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Kevin

I'm not sure you read very closely.

Now who's stretching?

We are all Greek "brothers and sisters."

And again, that's in a historical context. There is nothing on the national site that says there is any sort of ongoing, current brother/sister relationship.

To whoever thinks I'm being a bitch about this, sorry, but I hate when people can't distinguish history from current policy, or truth from urban legend. Trust me, I get just as annoyed with the endless "brothel law" postings.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Now who's stretching?

We are all Greek "brothers and sisters."

And again, that's in a historical context. There is nothing on the national site that says there is any sort of ongoing, current brother/sister relationship.

To whoever thinks I'm being a bitch about this, sorry, but I hate when people can't distinguish history from current policy, or truth from urban legend. Trust me, I get just as annoyed with the endless "brothel law" postings.

I have never represented that there was any sort of official relationship, nor has anyone else (for the nth time).

It is a historical and sentimental relationship. It seems you are quite content to tell the rest of us, including several AXiDs who don't seem to agree with you about their own organization's culture and history. That's awfully presumptuous.

You've seen several quotes from current official documents which while referring to a current relationship, also do not state that there is anything beyond a sentimental and historical relationship.

I have never run into an AXiD who disavowed the relationship or referred to it as anything but current and existing. If all the members of that organization believe that, then it exists.

As for "we are all greek brothers and sisters," it doesn't say that on the page. It just talks about Sigma Nus doing something for their "sister" greeks. Notably, it never refers to the other chapters at Lombard at the time as brother or sister greeks. The meaning is pretty clear in that regard. You stated that the site says nothing re the relationship, in that regard, you're just wrong (for the nth time).

[NutBrnHair]

Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

Maybe you should check up on NPC rules before you go acting like you know what you're talking about.

It doesn't matter who says what. There are no brother/sister official OR unofficial GLOs. Perhaps actually listening to the other NPC sisters, or maybe the actual Tri Sigma sister, you will notice you are wrong... if that is possible.

Originally Posted by 33girl

Kevin's being funny, but if your HQ really IS saying in materials that Sigma Nu is your brother fraternity and encouraging that relationship and seemingly officially "mandating" it, that's a real problem.

I don't understand what NPC "rule" has been violated or what "real problem" comes from this.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Kevin

You've seen several quotes from current official documents which while referring to a current relationship, also do not state that there is anything beyond a sentimental and historical relationship.

There haven't been any quotes. If you would like to quote directly from the document you referred to that "hanged" on your wall, that might clear up the confusion.

NBH, as to WHY encouraging brother/sister relationships on a national level can be a problem for NPC groups, please see my earlier posts.

[NutBrnHair]

Originally Posted by 33girl

NBH, as to WHY encouraging brother/sister relationships on a national level can be a problem for NPC groups, please see my earlier posts.

There is no "rule" and no group is going to be in "trouble" from NPC for any reference to a brother fraternity.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by 33girl

There haven't been any quotes. If you would like to quote directly from the document you referred to that "hanged" on your wall, that might clear up the confusion.

NBH, as to WHY encouraging brother/sister relationships on a national level can be a problem for NPC groups, please see my earlier posts.

Why don't you refer to the active AXiD sister who made references to the explanation of this relationship in her new member manual provided by HQ. She then took some sort of quiz regarding history in which the question "Who is our brother fraternity?" was asked. It's page 4ish.

That should clear up your confusion.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by NutBrnHair

There is no "rule" and no group is going to be in "trouble" from NPC for any reference to a brother fraternity.

It troubles me that a non-member of an organization thinks its her place to say how another organization should run their business when no rule is being broken.

[Senusret I]

Let it go.

[AlexMack]

Originally Posted by Kevin

It troubles me that a non-member of an organization thinks its her place to say how another organization should run their business when no rule is being broken.

Dude you're just annoying now. Let it go. Go beat some homeless people up or something.

[banditone]

WE didn’t have them on my campus, but for some reason I think AXiD is inherently awesome. That is all.