Tri-Sigma Sorority

33girl · #1 03-23-2007, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by PinkBabygirl10

I know it's already been discussed, but I have the latest edition of the New Member Manual (not written by the chapter, but by HQ), and there is a whole page about Sigma Nu and about how they are our "brother fraternity." We did a worksheet to review what we read, and one of the questions was: Who is our brother fraternity?

Although everyone else says that they are not our brother fraternity, from the informaton I read, I am led to believe that they are.

Kevin's being funny, but if your HQ really IS saying in materials that Sigma Nu is your brother fraternity and encouraging that relationship and seemingly officially "mandating" it, that's a real problem.

banditone · #2 03-23-2007, 10:00 AM

In the words of founder Julia Foster, "Five of the 10 founders married Sigma Nus. The other half of us failed."

Awesome

PM_Mama00 · #3 03-23-2007, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by banditone

In the words of founder Julia Foster, "Five of the 10 founders married Sigma Nus. The other half of us failed."

Awesome

Is that a real quote?

Wow.

PinkRose1098 · #4 03-23-2007, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by banditone

In the words of founder Julia Foster, "Five of the 10 founders married Sigma Nus. The other half of us failed."

Awesome

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Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

Is that a real quote?

Wow.

I think the comment by Julia Maude Foster was more off-hand and meant to be funny. I would probably say the same thing of any of my close chapter sisters who has the "misfortune" to marry a gentleman from the "other" school in our state.

Kevin · #5 03-23-2007, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 33girl

Kevin's being funny, but if your HQ really IS saying in materials that Sigma Nu is your brother fraternity and encouraging that relationship and seemingly officially "mandating" it, that's a real problem.

I don't get that from their materials. I may know a little about this since that particular part of their new member manual was excerpted, accompanied by a nice picture and frame and then hung on the wall at my Chapter's home.

As said before, while the historical ties are definitely known and mentioned, there is no official relationship either existing or encouraged.

PM_Mama00 · #6 03-23-2007, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by PinkBabygirl10

I know it's already been discussed, but I have the latest edition of the New Member Manual (not written by the chapter, but by HQ), and there is a whole page about Sigma Nu and about how they are our "brother fraternity." We did a worksheet to review what we read, and one of the questions was: Who is our brother fraternity?

Although everyone else says that they are not our brother fraternity, from the informaton I read, I am led to believe that they are.

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Originally Posted by Kevin

I don't get that from their materials. I may know a little about this since that particular part of their new member manual was excerpted, accompanied by a nice picture and frame and then hanged on the wall at my Chapter's home.

As said before, while the historical ties are definitely known and mentioned, there is no official relationship either existing or encouraged.

She said it.

MysticCat · #7 03-23-2007, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by PM_Mama00

She said it.

Where did she use the word "official," or say that it is an "official" relationship rather than a historical, informal one. I didn't see that, nor did I see anything about "mandating" a relationship.

My kids' "Aunt Fran" is coming to stay with them tonight so that my wife and I can have a night and day tomorrow to ourselves. She is not really their aunt, she's my wife's best friend. The kids know perfectly well that she is not their aunt -- my son will often greet her with "Hey, Aunt Fran-who's-not-really-our-aunt-but-we-call-you-that-anyway!"

No official relationship, just a sentimental one.

PM_Mama00 · #8 03-23-2007, 11:36 AM

If Nationals has it written, anything written, it is assumed to be official.

MysticCat · #9 03-23-2007, 11:49 AM

^^^ I'm really not trying to be obstinate, but that makes no sense to me. Context is everything. I don't assume that everything my national publishes is telling me an "official fact." Sometimes they're telling what's official, sometimes they're telling what's traditional but unofficial lore, sometimes it's neither. Sometimes they make clear whether it's official or not, sometimes they rely on me to be able to figure it out from context.

Perhaps it's a matter of semantics, but if it's not in (1) the constitution, (2) by-laws or (3) a policy adopted by a body with constitutional authority to adopt such a policy, I wouldn't call it official. Even if it is in a new member manual.

In this particular case, I would take the reference given as a sign that Alpha Xi Delta wants to acknowledge and celebrate the historical relationship with Sigma Nu and doesn't see the need to censor use of the long-used term "brother fraternity" as the way that they have traditionally referred to that relationship. At the same time, Alpha Xi Delta does not officially designate Sigma Nu as it's "brother fraternity."

33girl · #10 03-23-2007, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MysticCat

In this particular case, I would take the reference given as a sign that Alpha Xi Delta wants to acknowledge and celebrate the historical relationship with Sigma Nu and doesn't see the need to censor use of the long-used term "brother fraternity" as the way that they have traditionally referred to that relationship. At the same time, Alpha Xi Delta does not officially designate Sigma Nu as it's "brother fraternity."

Apparently many members are not able to make the distinction between a historical, sentimental and/or official connection.