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08-31-2006, 12:15 PM
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At bottom what most of these posts don't speak of is the larger worldview that generates these responses. They aren't benign or simply the way things are. They are the result, on many different levels, of conscious brain washing in the ways of white supremist thinking.
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Some people have posted about this already.
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It's a ball of lies.It's affects us all in different ways. If your heart is cleansed by the Holy Spirit of God--yes, I am a Christian--then you'll begin to see ALL people for who they are, as created in God's image.Yes,one may have all kinds of preferences but most of what I see reflected here are more superficial things, in the broader schemem of life and eternity.
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Being a Christian doesn't mean that people will see ALL people as equal in God's image. Afterall, Christianity (whether that was "real" or "fake" Christianity isn't up to human understanding) has been used for centuries to support genocide and white supremacy.
Even still, being Christian and seeing people as equal in God's image doesn't surpass personal preference, which is what this thread speaks to. There are plenty of Christians (and people of other faiths, since interracial marriage is uncommon in plenty of cultures) who will not date interracially. Their preference is not necessarily based on supremacy or stereotypes.
However, what you deem superficial only means that your personal preferences are different than someone else's. All of our criteria can be superficial when judged by others.
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08-31-2006, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfman
At bottom what most of these posts don't speak of is the larger worldview that generates these responses. They aren't benign or simply the way things are. They are the result, on many different levels, of conscious brain washing in the ways of white supremist thinking. It's a ball of lies.It's affects us all in different ways. If your heart is cleansed by the Holy Spirit of God--yes, I am a Christian--then you'll begin to see ALL people for who they are, as created in God's image.Yes,one may have all kinds of preferences but most of what I see reflected here are more superficial things, in the broader schemem of life and eternity.
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What do you see in all of this that is superficial? I see a bunch of people talking about their personal preferences......
Just because I have a particular interest in blonde blue eyed white girls doesn't mean that I don't see others as equals or think less of them.....and it sure as hell doesn't make me any less of a Christian.
Go preach to someone else......
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08-31-2006, 04:54 PM
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Like I wouldn't go patrolling the streets trying to find someone to date who my grandparents and certain aunts and uncles would never accept, but if I wound up in a relationship with someone who they wouldn't accept, that wouldn't stop me from being with them. It seems really wrong to me to deliberately put someone in that kind of situation. I would be really mad if I started randomly dating an Asian guy (for example) that I met at a bar and it turned out his whole family hated me for being white - it would be like, why would you hit on me in the first place?!? Now, if we started off being friends and it just evolved from there, that's different. I could deal with that, and in that case wouldn't be mad at the Asian guy with the mean family.
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08-31-2006, 06:02 PM
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Some people have posted about this already.
Being a Christian doesn't mean that people will see ALL people as equal in God's image. Afterall, Christianity (whether that was "real" or "fake" Christianity isn't up to human understanding) has been used for centuries to support genocide and white supremacy.
Even still, being Christian and seeing people as equal in God's image doesn't surpass personal preference, which is what this thread speaks to. There are plenty of Christians (and people of other faiths, since interracial marriage is uncommon in plenty of cultures) who will not date interracially. Their preference is not necessarily based on supremacy or stereotypes.
However, what you deem superficial only means that your personal preferences are different than someone else's. All of our criteria can be superficial when judged by others.
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In my post, I tried to put this discussion in a broader context: the basis for mate selection in our culture, which is typically romantically based, centers on things that don't necessarily make for good marriages. That's the point.
And,by the way, Christians are sinners too and fall into the same muddle as others, falling into the same patterns of cultural assimilation as others--the history of Christianity in this country reflects this. But, according to St. Paul, what is most important and determinative for marriage is not race, ethnicity or culture but whether the prospective spouse is en Kyrio ("in the LORD"), that is, what is most important is that person's relationship to Christ and community of faith in baptism. On a more personal note, whenever I've prayed about this issue in regards to a prospective girlfriend, God has let me know about women who were not acceptable. But it was never based on race but on a women's character and spirituality. This is something that has made a difference in my life experientially, and has helped me to see this issue in the way I do. Yes, we do have different preferences but race should be a non-issue.
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08-31-2006, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfman
In my post, I tried to put this discussion in a broader context: the basis for mate selection in our culture, which is typically romantically based, centers on things that don't necessarily make for good marriages. That's the point.
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The EVOLUTIONARY basis for selecting partners is centered around things that don't necessarily make for good marriages - I don't really know where you're going with this . . .
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08-31-2006, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Wolfman
At bottom what most of these posts don't speak of is the larger worldview that generates these responses. They aren't benign or simply the way things are. They are the result, on many different levels, of conscious brain washing in the ways of white supremist thinking. It's a ball of lies.It's affects us all in different ways. If your heart is cleansed by the Holy Spirit of God--yes, I am a Christian--then you'll begin to see ALL people for who they are, as created in God's image.Yes,one may have all kinds of preferences but most of what I see reflected here are more superficial things, in the broader schemem of life and eternity.
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Let's be sure to note here that it is not necessary for your heart to be "cleansed by the Holy Spirit of God" or for you to be a Christian to see all people "for who they are."
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08-31-2006, 11:32 PM
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In my post, I tried to put this discussion in a broader context: the basis for mate selection in our culture, which is typically romantically based, centers on things that don't necessarily make for good marriages. That's the point.
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You didn't place this discussion in a broader context and I disagree with the rest of your assessment.
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09-01-2006, 01:39 AM
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"Mate selection" - Who the hell says this??
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09-01-2006, 06:33 AM
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Therefore you have answered your own question. It "matters" because people make it "matter." Now, why'd you start this thread?
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Why do people make it matter? I asked the question to get other opinions, and I started this thread because it's a good topic to chat about. Now, why did you respond to this thread?
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09-01-2006, 11:36 AM
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Why do people make it matter? I asked the question to get other opinions, and I started this thread because it's a good topic to chat about. Now, why did you respond to this thread?
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Because people do what people do. Did you start this thread to have a philosophical and socially conscious discussion or to talk about the frivolous topic of Greek interracial relationships?
I initially responded to the thread because I was humored by its existence.
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09-02-2006, 03:02 AM
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Because people do what people do. Did you start this thread to have a philosophical and socially conscious discussion or to talk about the frivolous topic of Greek interracial relationships?
I initially responded to the thread because I was humored by its existence.
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I'm glad you were humored by it.
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09-02-2006, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Elephant Walk
Okay lets put it like this...
it's not about the race, but it's the contributing factor. If there was a black girl that everyone found attractive, it would be different. I think beyonce's cute, it's about race if only because their race determines their appearance. It's sort of like being the guy who hooked up with the fat girl. Y'know? It's the same type of ostracism based on appearance and not race.
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You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. That is about the most ignorant comment I have ever read in my life. You are going to be attractive to a black girl because of her status and not because she's beautiful. I don't care what anybody says, I am standing up for my sisters. We are all beautiful black women. You would know that if your ignorance was not in the way. And as far as interracial dating goes, that has been going on since the beginning of time. That's why I am Black, white and hispanic. I haven't seen any white Deltas. I have dated outside of my race, but I don't know any soros that have
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09-02-2006, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by macallan25
How in the hell was his comment racist? Some of you morons throw around that term so loosely its ridiculous. You act as if its the same as calling someone an idiot.
Why is it SOOOOO wrong of him to say that he would be ostracized if he dated a black girl? Many social circles look down upon interracial dating....just as i'm sure some Greeks would too.....I know it is that way in many parts of the South. Looking down upon interracial dating doesn't make you a racist. Many people are brought up with the notion that it isn't proper.......and there is nothing wrong with that.
rac-ism /-rey-siz-uhm/ :
1.) hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
2.) a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
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Because it's the same as me saying that I would be ostracized to date you because you are stupid and ignorant. Those "social circles" you are talking about are ignorant, too. I guess that's why you know about them.
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09-02-2006, 04:43 PM
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My kick into reality tells me that my white wife's (of 9 years) family didn't want her dating or marrying me, to the point where they threatened to cut her off if she did - she called their bluff, because we love each other and we thought that we could make it work. My kick into reality tells me that my family thought I was crazy for dating a white girl, until they met her and fell in love with her like I did. My kick into reality came when my mother sat me down and told me that she'd rather had me dating a black girl, but, "If I loved her, she would too."
That's reality
I mock him because he started this thread and then came back and said that he would be ashamed - ashamed of what? falling in love with someone? if he, or anyone else is that insecure about who he is and how he feels about someone, then they shouldn't be bringing them home, much less dating them. I have no problem with you, mac, or anyone else's personal preference about who you date - when you bring shame into it, however, it says to ME that you don't feel that they are worthy of equality in YOUR eyes.
Lastly, mac, if you fell in love with a woman of another race (I know that's not your preference, but hear me out) and you had to quash that becuase of what your family thought, then you weren't in love to begin with and you have no idea what it really means.
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I feel you, sweetheart.
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09-03-2006, 12:59 AM
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You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. That is about the most ignorant comment I have ever read in my life. You are going to be attractive to a black girl because of her status and not because she's beautiful. I don't care what anybody says, I am standing up for my sisters. We are all beautiful black women. You would know that if your ignorance was not in the way. And as far as interracial dating goes, that has been going on since the beginning of time. That's why I am Black, white and hispanic. I haven't seen any white Deltas. I have dated outside of my race, but I don't know any soros that have
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Ms. dst2004 is on a roll.
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