Drinking in letters

[Kim21683]

There is no national rule in Theta Phi Alpha saying we aren't allowed to drink in our letters. I think that we are the only national Panhelenic sorority that allows it. Out of respect and courtesy for other chapters, we do not drink when we have shirts with their letters on them (like UC sorority recruitment tees) since those chapters have rules against it. Of course we are definitely not allowed to drink in our letters if we are under 21. Also I'm pretty sure we aren't allowed to drink with our badges on.

[Wine&SilverBlue]

i'll delete this post in a few minutes... but

[honeychile]

Originally posted by HotDamnImAPhiMu
..... which is why there are many orgs. that just say, "NO org-related tattoos, thanks." Chi O may be one of them (any Chi Os know for sure?) but Phi Mu doesn't, unfortunately, have a national policy on this.

Anyone remember the sorority member who appeared in Playboy, complete with tattoo?

I'd be interested in knowing about the tattoo prohibition. I've mentioned before about a question concerning debrasion - I think it's a very valid discussion!

Back to drinking: what would y'all think of a few alumnae getting together after visiting a chapter or such, they're wearing laveliers or similar "small" letters (ring?), and they stop for dinner and maybe a glass of wine?

[tunatartare]

Originally posted by honeychile
I'd be interested in knowing about the tattoo prohibition. I've mentioned before about a question concerning debrasion - I think it's a very valid discussion!

Back to drinking: what would y'all think of a few alumnae getting together after visiting a chapter or such, they're wearing laveliers or similar "small" letters (ring?), and they stop for dinner and maybe a glass of wine?

The alumnae are all over 21 so I don't think that there's anything wrong with that. Plus, I somehow seriously doubt that if you have a bunch of alumnae get together and go out for dinner, that they're going to get so drunk that they're going to do anything that would give the sorority/chapter a bad name.

[Wine&SilverBlue]

"The alumnae are all over 21 so I don't think that there's anything wrong with that. Plus, I somehow seriously doubt that if you have a bunch of alumnae get together and go out for dinner, that they're going to get so drunk that they're going to do anything that would give the sorority/chapter a bad name."

I agree. I think theres a difference between having a glass of wine with dinner, and doing a kegstand or being blatantly drunk in public. Theres also a difference between being over 21, or not.

I personally think that you shouldn't wear letters if you plan on getting drunk or doing anything you wouldnt want associated with your sorority....

[honeychile]

Ladies, that's my thought. One of the alumnae involved violently disagreed, and the rest of us somewhat ignored her. I don't know about most alumnae that help out with a chapter, but after a few hours of same, a little wine with dinner is vastly preferred to a lot of "whine" with dinner!

[Taualumna]

Originally posted by honeychile
Ladies, that's my thought. One of the alumnae involved violently disagreed, and the rest of us somewhat ignored her. I don't know about most alumnae that help out with a chapter, but after a few hours of same, a little wine with dinner is vastly preferred to a lot of "whine" with dinner!

Does your headquarters have any specific rules that apply also to alum when it comes to alcohol? Maybe it's something that the alumnae in question should review/take a look at? I don't know.........

[LyonLuv]

In Phi Mu we are not allowed to drink in letters. Actually none of the sororities are. The Fraternity's drink in letters. I dunno i think it's one of those things where it's okay for guys but not for girls.

[KSUViolet06]

NO drinking for us in ANY letters (this incl. shirts, lavalieres, bracelets, etc). We're discouraged from smoking in letters. We aren't permitted to smoke in front of the house. If you smoke, you have to go out back into the parking lot.

We're also discouraged from swearing, and are told to look presentable and neat at all times while in letters.

[ISUKappa]

Originally posted by honeychile
Back to drinking: what would y'all think of a few alumnae getting together after visiting a chapter or such, they're wearing laveliers or similar "small" letters (ring?), and they stop for dinner and maybe a glass of wine?

Our policy states, in reference to alumnae, that alchohol is only prohibited during meetings where ritual is involved. We'll often have wine at our social gatherings and I think everyone has been okay with that.

If I were going out with my husband or a small group of friends and had a few drinks with dinner, I would feel okay with wearing my crest ring or letter bracelet.

If I were going out to the bar with a group of friends and know I'm going with the intent of having a very good time, I wouldn't not wear anything that could associate me with my fraternity.

[LionTamer]

Maybe it's my age, but I have some pretty vivid mental images of my ASA sisters cursing, drinking AND smoking all at the same time in eye-catching red-and-white sweatshirts!

One of the most prolific cursers was Meg - when the quietest, sweetest girl in the sorority drew her name and had to portray her in the Senior Skit, she came into the suite dropping the f-bomb right and left - immediately everyone knew who she was supposed to be and yelled "Meg!!!"

Cut to 10 years later, and she's now a Main Line Matron, , complaining about the beach house her family had rented - there were college students next door and they CURSED!!! Can you believe it!!

We had to remind her that there were few truck drivers with more colorful vocabularies than Meg " yeah, you and horse you rode in on" Rector.

But I'm with Sheila (maybe because this isn't a big national policy with us). People know what sorority you're in, letters or not - better to have a few beers and behave kindly than be letter-free and a total bitch.

[aephi alum]

Originally posted by Wine&SilverBlue
i'll delete this post in a few minutes... but

That's not me, I swear! (No, it really isn't. If that girl is a collegian, her @$$ should be hauled before standards.)

As I've mentioned before on this thread, our rule is no drinking in letters. If you are underage you shouldn't be drinking, period, as all AEPhis are expected to abide by federal, state/province, local, and university laws, including the drinking age.

For alums it's more relaxed (mainly b/c we can't get called to standards ), but I don't wear anything associated with AEPhi if I'm drinking. I won't even wear letters when I go to the liquor store.

[33girl]

Originally posted by AlphaFrog
Shiela-

Does ASA even have a national policy about drinking in letters? I know there's no buying alcohol with soroity funds and no taking up a collection to buy it...but I don't know about actual national rules about it... Our chapter policy was no drinking in letters/jewlery over 2 inches Now that I'm 21 and alum I guess it doesn't really matter...

As far as is there something written down, I don't think so, but it can fall under that very large umbrella of "inappropriate activities." And as we know, every chapter and every sister has different definitions of "inappropriate."

I think this didn't start till around 92-93, because before that we had consultants in the house who saw us go out to bars/parties in letters and didn't say a word.

[valkyrie]

The only disgraceful thing about that picture of the woman in the beer hat is the fact that she's drinking Coors. Ew.

I'm really with 33girl on this one -- I'd be much more worried about someone wearing my letters and acting a fool that I would be worried about someone having a drink. Drinking is not inherently disrespectful to anyone -- acting like an idiot is, whether you're drunk or not. Maybe people just feel like "don't act like an ass" is too vague so they try to regulate what they can.

[Contessima]

Originally posted by AlphaXi4983
my old roommate is in a music fraternity, and almost all of them drink in letters... i personally see it as disrespectful and disgraceful, but i guess if neither they nor their headquarters has a problem with it.... why not...

I can't speak for Kappa Kappa Psi or music fraternities other than SAI and PMA, but I know we're DRY fraternities. We're not allowed to drink at fraternitity functions including socials (I know many PMA chapters break this rule, and I know some who have been disaffiliated for it); we're not allowed to spend fraternity funds on alcohol. Other than that, we are allowed to drink in our letters, but it is not encouraged to be drunk in them. This means it is perfectly acceptable to wear your lavaliere at a restaurant or even your badge while drinking wine, but it's icky to be lewd and obnoxious while wearing them. I was just talking to my PO about this last weekend.