Osama Bin Laden Dead - Page 7

AlphaFrog · #91 05-02-2011, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow

The military who was acting on a directive from the Commander-In-Chief.

Forrest Gump, Rainman, and GWB all would have made the same call. It was a no-brainer, non-issue.

Ghostwriter · #92 05-02-2011, 11:47 AM

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So you honestly believe that we are safer today than we were a week ago?

Absolutely. UBL was not a leader but he was a figure head in which the terrorist rallied around. A dead figure head for a murderous terrorist group is a great thing. We simply cannot cower in fear as to what these people plan to do to us. They would do it anyway. Every terrorist we kill makes us one dead terrorist safer. The alternative is to capitulate and bow to their whims and demands. That isn't going to happen. Some things are just worth fighting for.

knight_shadow · #93 05-02-2011, 11:50 AM

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i would be more inclined to believe this if i hadnt seen so many "celebratory OBL death" statuses on fb and heard of so many people partying to celebrate his death. im not sure people are thinking past OBL's death to the implications it will have on terrorism worldwide.

I still don't believe they are talking about OBL the person.

And once the hype of today dies down, I'm sure folks will be more aware of what's likely to come.

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

Forrest Gump, Rainman, and GWB all would have made the same call. It was a no-brainer, non-issue.

*side eye* @ the bold

DeltaBetaBaby · #94 05-02-2011, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghostwriter

We simply cannot cower in fear as to what these people plan to do to us. They would do it anyway. Every terrorist we kill makes us one dead terrorist safer. The alternative is to capitulate and bow to their whims and demands. That isn't going to happen.

It already has. See: patriot act, TSA, etc. See also: cutting badly-needed social programs in order to fund wars.

Xylochick216 · #95 05-02-2011, 11:53 AM

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I can see the parallels of us celebrating OBLs death, as well as what we saw 10 years ago (celebrations over 9/11) just fine. I'm cool with it. What they committed was terrorism. What Seal Team 6 committed was Justice.

Justice to us. To them, killing Americans in those acts of terror was justice. Am I glad he's dead? Sure. Am I going to make a fool out of myself in the streets? Absolutely not. I don't believe in celebrating anyone's death. I'm thankful that he is gone, but killing OBL didn't stop the terrorist. If anything, it angered them and will strengthen them, and the footage of Americans celebrating will just fuel the fire, just like it fueled the fire after 9/11.

als463 · #96 05-02-2011, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow

The military who was acting on a directive from the Commander-In-Chief.

Really? I also remember another Commander-In-Chief who wanted the military to go find him. If this had happened while Bush was still in office-people wouldn't be giving him praise. Why should I give it to Obama? I find it a little ironic that this was shown after the Celebrity Apprentice (Trump) and a few days after "confirming" his birth certificate. I have very little respect for Obama but, I have a great deal of respect for our troops. Let's give the thanks to THEM.

agzg · #97 05-02-2011, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by als463

Really? I also remember another Commander-In-Chief who wanted the military to go find him. If this had happened while Bush was still in office-people wouldn't be giving him praise. Why should I give it to Obama? I find it a little ironic that this was shown after the Celebrity Apprentice (Trump) and a few days after "confirming" his birth certificate. I have very little respect for Obama but, I have a great deal of respect for our troops. Let's give the thanks to THEM.

What?

Also, intelligence officials?

The President gets credit or blame. That's how it works. Sure, it could have been any other President, or it could have been McCain, but the President gets credit. Having been in the military, I thought you would know that.

Of course the Navy SEALS who went in should get praise. Of course the intelligence community should get praise (and believe me, they've been shat all over since the beginning of the Iraq War, I'm glad one of their successes is finally making it back to us), but the President also gets credit, because he's the President and that's the way it works.

When the Bay of Pigs failed, Kennedy took the blame, and hard. And he'd only been in for 3 months at the time, the invasion was planned long before that.

Ch2tf · #98 05-02-2011, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by als463

Really? I also remember another Commander-In-Chief who wanted the military to go find him. If this had happened while Bush was still in office-people wouldn't be giving him praise. Why should I give it to Obama? I find it a little ironic that this was shown after the Celebrity Apprentice (Trump) and a few days after "confirming" his birth certificate. I have very little respect for Obama but, I have a great deal of respect for our troops. Let's give the thanks to THEM.

You sound like a child, "They wouldn't do it, so I'm not going to do it. Nahnahnahaboobo."

I don't know an anti-Bush person (and in my circle they abound), myself included that wouldn't have "celebrated" this decision and given Bush credit had OBL been taken care of during his time in office.

knight_shadow · #99 05-02-2011, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by als463

Really? I also remember another Commander-In-Chief who wanted the military to go find him. If this had happened while Bush was still in office-people wouldn't be giving him praise. Why should I give it to Obama? I find it a little ironic that this was shown after the Celebrity Apprentice (Trump) and a few days after "confirming" his birth certificate. I have very little respect for Obama but, I have a great deal of respect for our troops. Let's give the thanks to THEM.

I also remember that Commander-In-Chief being praised immediately after 9/11. You and I both know that GWB would have gotten accolades, had the capture occurred during one of his terms.

And the Apprentice thing is a little irrelevant. Trump is a non-issue at this point.

I find it fascinating that a member of the military doesn't have respect for the POTUS.

rhoyaltempest · #**100** 05-02-2011, 12:10 PM

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That's all I could think about when reading everyone's FB status updates and watching his speech on the news. It was the MILITARY and I'd like to see proof. I think it was PIKA2001 that brought up about the Hussein brothers-I can tell you that I know, for a fact, they were def. killed because I was literally stationed 2 blocks down from where their bodies were. So, I'm not sure about the GC on showing pictures...hmmmm....

It's funny how when something goes wrong, we have no problem blaming the president but when it comes to giving him SOME credit for something he was indeed involved in, we don't want to give credit. Military actions are always credited to the Commander-In-Chief. Let's not be hipocrites.

als463 · #**101** 05-02-2011, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow

I also remember that Commander-In-Chief being praised immediately after 9/11. You and I both know that GWB would have gotten accolades, had the capture occurred during one of his terms.

And the Apprentice thing is a little irrelevant. Trump is a non-issue at this point.

I find it fascinating that a member of the military doesn't have respect for the POTUS.

Trust me, there are a lot more than you realize.

You know that GWB would not have gotten the accolades for this. Let's be honest.

IrishLake · #**102** 05-02-2011, 12:12 PM

(Why am I just now noticing k_s's siggy? I <3 The Beets!)

knight_shadow · #**103** 05-02-2011, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by als463

Trust me, there are a lot more than you realize.

You know that GWB would not have gotten the accolades for this. Let's be honest.

If this occurred during the GWB era, who would've gotten praise?

Also, most of the military folks I come in contact with will say "I don't agree with what _____'s administration has done," not "I don't respect ____."

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(Why am I just now noticing k_s's siggy? I <3 The Beets!)

DeltaBetaBaby · #**104** 05-02-2011, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow

If this occurred during the GWB era, who would've gotten praise?

Also, most of the military folks I come in contact with will say "I don't agree with what _____'s administration has done," not "I don't respect ____."

Speaking of GWB, let's take a trip down memory lane...

als463 · #**105** 05-02-2011, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by knight_shadow

If this occurred during the GWB era, who would've gotten praise?

Also, most of the military folks I come in contact with will say "I don't agree with what _____'s administration has done," not "I don't respect ____."

Okay, let me re-phrase that. I should have said, "I have respect for the President but, I don't care for him." Feel better? You HAVE to respect the President when you are in the military but, you can dislike him. I stand behind my statement that he doesn't deserve the credit.