Jamie Lynn Spears Says She's Pregnant

[SSS1365]

Ok, how old IS the guy? Some sources say 18 and some say 19. And in some states, that one year makes all the difference in a statutory rape case.

I don't understand why we're talking about how she could/could not have disappeared for a while to have the baby and give it up for adoption. She chose to keep it, so isn't that a moot point?

And honestly, if she wasn't Britney's little sister, no one would even care about this story. Lots of minors have sex, and unfortunately lots of them get pregnant.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by SSS1365

I don't understand why we're talking about how she could/could not have disappeared for a while to have the baby and give it up for adoption. She chose to keep it, so isn't that a moot point?

We're talking about it because someone said they give her credit for doing the "right" thing and keeping the baby, and someone else pointed out that dropping out of site and putting the baby up for adoption wouldn't necessarily be the "wrong" thing to do. Especially since she most likely just cost a bunch of people their jobs.

Besides, if we stuck to discussing the facts in the story there really wouldn't be much to discuss, would there? Tramp's little Tramp sister tramps herself out and gets pregnant. End of story. Everyone can go home now.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by mu_agd

We don't know for a fact that she had unprotected sex. Accidents happen. I know quite a few people who have gotten themselves knocked up while being completely careful.

I do too, but with a whole TV show dependent on her, she should have been on the pill, using a diaphragm AND a condom.

She isn't a star on an adult show where they could have written in the pregnancy or worked around it. Does it kind of stink that people are judging her for doing something lots of 16 year olds do? Yeah. But she also makes more money than most people will see in their lives. That's the price you pay for celebrity.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

Besides, if we stuck to discussing the facts in the story there really wouldn't be much to discuss, would there? Tramp's little Tramp sister tramps herself out and gets pregnant. End of story. Everyone can go home now.

Damn. As much as I don't care for the Spears family, calling a 16-year old who got pregnant a "tramp" is pretty freaking judgemental.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by Munchkin03

Damn. As much as I don't care for the Spears family, calling a 16-year old who got pregnant a "tramp" is pretty freaking judgemental.

I was being melodramatic to make a point, but it's not like the tabloids aren't going to call her that times 10.

[AlethiaSi]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

I know it's hard for us to remember how we felt and thought as 14-16 year olds, but I think we can all agree that a 16 year old does not think as a mature adult. Sixteen year olds - most of them anyway - don't really grasp the full consequences of their actions. They go with their gut, their feelings, and don't reason the way adults do. Many teens - and young adults - have unprotected sex all the time. Not because they don't know any better, because "safe sex" education has been shoved down most of their throats, but because they just don't care. As insane as that is to adults, they just don't care...they're too busy thinking about the fun their having. We can only blame parents so much for the actions of their kids. When it comes to sex, I really think all a parent can do is make sure their kids have information and offer a supportive ear; some kids will heed the advice they've heard at home/in school, and others will blow it off. That is a bad decision that kids make for themselves, knowing what the consequences are, but just not caring enough to stop themselves from preventing the consequences.

I agree with this, but I also think that there should be way more safe sex education, and not just abstinence education. I think that kids in this time period are likely to engage in all sorts of "sordid" activities. I know, I was one of them. I am grateful that I had "worldly" friends to guide me, and I learned a lot of things the hard way. I also credit a really great counseling and health services office at my college.

My high school did jack when it came to that stuff, and the college I work at now (it's a Catholic school) does NOTHING, no pamphlets, nothing, it's really sad. My friend works in health services, and people come in there all the time looking for help and they can't even tell them anything! They can't help them find services, nothing.

So, on the one hand, I think that kids will do what they are going to do, but I also think that it is up to schools and parents to teach them the appropriate information, no matter how awkward. The "don't do it" approach isn't working.

*I also realize that this is relevant to my own personal beliefs and the area in which I live, and is not necessarily relevant to others, and others may not agree, and that's ok

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by mu_agd

We don't know for a fact that she had unprotected sex. Accidents happen. I know quite a few people who have gotten themselves knocked up while being completely careful.

This is more true than many people would like to believe. Many other drugs don't mix with certain birth control pills, plus most birth control pills are made for women who are 150 pounds or under. I know of two bouncing baby boys whose mothers gained a bit too much weight at the wrong time of the month!

[SWTXBelle]

I think it fair to say that Britney Spears behavior qualifies as "trampy".Whether or not her younger sister's behavior does is a bit more murky. To the best of my knowledge, she hasn't flashed her naughty bits or been with more than the one guy.
But any parent who allows her 16 year old daughter to date an older guy is, imho, asking for trouble.

[honeychile]

Anyone else think that the Spears family may become singlehandedly responsible for the return of the chastity belt?

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by honeychile

Anyone else think that the Spears family may become singlehandedly responsible for the return of the chastity belt?

If only.

[Drolefille]

To clear up the statutory issue: www.ageofconsent.com

Although in Florida the "age of consent" is 18, a 18-23 year old may have sex with a 16-17 year old. Thus Mr. Baby-Daddy is not, based on the current information, a rapist.


The law, for those who care.

(1) A person 24 years of age or older who engages in sexual activity with a person 16 or 17 years of age commits a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084. As used in this section, "sexual activity" means oral, anal, or vaginal penetration by, or union with, the sexual organ of another; however, sexual activity does not include an act done for a bona fide medical purpose.

(2) The provisions of this section do not apply to a person 16 or 17 years of age who has had the disabilities of nonage removed under chapter 743.

(3) The victim's prior sexual conduct is not a relevant issue in a prosecution under this section.

(4) If an offense under this section directly results in the victim giving birth to a child, paternity of that child shall be established as described in chapter 742. If it is determined that the offender is the father of the child, the offender must pay child support pursuant to the child support guidelines described in chapter 61. History.--RS 2598; s. 1, ch. 4965, 1901; GS 3521; s. 1, ch. 6974, 1915; s. 1, ch. 7732, 1918; RGS 5409; s. 1, ch. 8596, 1921; CGL 7552; s. 1, ch. 61-109; s. 759, ch. 71-136; s. 1, ch. 96-409.

[PeppyGPhiB]

Originally Posted by AlethiaSi

I agree with this, but I also think that there should be way more safe sex education, and not just abstinence education. I think that kids in this time period are likely to engage in all sorts of "sordid" activities. I know, I was one of them. I am grateful that I had "worldly" friends to guide me, and I learned a lot of things the hard way. I also credit a really great counseling and health services office at my college.

My high school did jack when it came to that stuff, and the college I work at now (it's a Catholic school) does NOTHING, no pamphlets, nothing, it's really sad. My friend works in health services, and people come in there all the time looking for help and they can't even tell them anything! They can't help them find services, nothing.

So, on the one hand, I think that kids will do what they are going to do, but I also think that it is up to schools and parents to teach them the appropriate information, no matter how awkward. The "don't do it" approach isn't working.

*I also realize that this is relevant to my own personal beliefs and the area in which I live, and is not necessarily relevant to others, and others may not agree, and that's ok

I never said anything about "abstinence only" education. That's certainly not what we have here in our public schools; I can't speak for elsewhere. I remember the first time I learned about AIDS - I was in 5th grade and they showed us a video explaining (in a way that kids will get) how the cells in the body work and how the virus is passed on. As for sex ed in middle and high school, there were many graphic images/videos and they even had us practice putting condoms on our fingers and bananas!

[LeslieAGD]

It was reported this afternoon that Jamie Lynn and the baby-daddy have broken up.

[Benzgirl]

I just spit out my water.

[Taualumna]

Since JL is 16, it makes everything look worse than Brit. As for Mamma Spears? FAMEPIMP!