Coleman Love vs. P & G Connection

[DoggyStyle82]

Ladies, ladies, let's play nice here. The thread was'nt all that serious to begin with. Any dissin' was meant to be lighthearted by the original posters. I think some of the later posters took things in the wrong vein. Coleman luv to the Reds and Greek love to all.

[the411]

It's sad that we--the allegedly upstanding, elite members of the college-educated black community--would perpetuate such ridiculousness. It was all just jokes in the beginning, but now that people are attacking each other and their orgs, it's not funny anymore. We all need to GROW UP! And, I say this to members (representing ALL the orgs) who've posted to this topic.

Here are the FACTS:

--There is a TRUE HISTORICAL BOND between Delta Sigma Theta and Omega Psi Phi. The fact that it is not a constitutional bond does not alter HISTORY.

--The bond isn't based on a marriage, despite want you've heard/learned.

--As honorers of this HISTORY, members of DST and Omega carry on the TRADITION of acknowledging the bond through what is called "Coleman Love."

--Not ALL members of DST and Omega care to acknowledge the bond due to non-existent or negative experiences with one another.

--If a CHAPTER'S experiences with another org are more pleasant/compatible than with it's brother/sister org, OR if a CHAPTER gravitates toward another org because it's brother/sister org doesn't have a chapter on its campus or in the area, the CHAPTER has a RIGHT to form a campus/local/regional bond with another org. By doing so, only the TRADITION for that org. has been altered-- NOT the HISTORY.

--It is not the place of any one person, chapter, or org to judge/assess the depths of the bond between any two people, chapters, or orgs. Only those two people, chapters, or orgs will ever truly know just how REAL and DEEP their BOND is. TO EACH THEIR OWN!

And I'm Out!

[mccoyred]

This is where all this BLUE discussion started in this thread. PLEASE READ THE TITLE OF THE THREAD!! I have never heard of Zetas or Sigmas as part of COLEMAN LUV or the so-called P&G Connection. The bantering with the AKAs was all in fun but y'all ZETAS seem to take it (and everything concerning a 'bond') to a whole 'nother level. Get over it!

Originally posted by PrettyKitty
If you don't have a nationally recogniZed Soror or Frat relationship, then you are going to have regional or local connections. Why get upset? Just a waste of time and energy if you asked me. Just soak it up and move on...

[the411]

And yes-- there are chapters in ZPBS who don't acknowledge the bond with their sister/brother org on their campus, either because they don't have one or because of friction. Still, we all know that the ZPBS bond is constitutional. However, that doesn't mean all Zetas and all Sigmas HAVE to love each other! We are ALL HUMAN! We should always be who we are FIRST and FOREMOST! The letters should merely be a SMALL part of who we are-- not the main part. Our truest, strongest BOND should be with GOD anyway!

And I'm Out!

[Finer Woman10-A-91]

is the inability to stick to an argument. I mean has argumentative essay writing gone completely out of the door in academia????
Mess? Surely you jest. Based, on the statement of truths, what seems to be the problem? Is it a lie that there is no national recognition of your relationship? Should it suprise you or any of the members of any of the "historically bonded" organizations that there would be some question of validity when there is an inconsistent recognition of your "historical bond" nationwide amongst YOUR individual sorority/fraternity memberships.

You are drawing your own conclusions. Hey, you cannot please all of the people all of the time. However, being rude or plain nasty can be controlled. I 'm gonna say it again...THESE BOARDS ARE PUBLICLY VIEWED AND UTILIZED BY ALL. You have no right whatsoever to ask or demand for that matter anyone not post anywhere on these boards. I believe this site was set up initially to attract ALL Greeks... to encourage a healthy exchange amongst members and those seeking interest in Greek life.

I resent the notion that it is okay for only half of the NPHC to have an opinion or viewpoint on issues relative to one's Greek experience. My Soror PrettyKitty, was ALSO joking if you read her post.

BTW, I do believe the good Brother DoggyStyle82---the MODERATOR and BROTHER OF OMEGA PSI PHI FRATERNITY, INC. will say when people are not welcomed. (Which by the way would be silly, just plain dumb, and well RUDE. HELLO... THIS IS THE WORLD WIDE WEB and doing so, would only make his organization look bad)

If you don't like what you are reading, then I would you suggest hit that little x in the corner of your screen.

One more thing, if there is a topic that you only want "certain kind of people" to respond to...have no shame...I have seen it done...put in your subject line...ONLY "MNO" RESPOND. If you are a moderator you can delete all of the other posts that do not conform to your liking...or opinion. If not, you will just have to grin and bear it like the rest of us!

[the411]

Yes, it is a FACT that ALL are welcomed to read and post in this forum as they please. I know for a fact that DoggyStyle82 doesn't believe in censorship (That is, unless you're perpetuating some myths/rumors about Que Psi Phi-- he'll break you off for that!), so no one has to question his/her freedom to post their comments or opinions in here. HOWEVER-- I am simply asking that we refrain from arguments and personal attacks! This is a time when we should be pulling together, folks! We're each entitled to our opinions, but there is a such thing as beating a dead horse.

YES-- the Zetas and the Sigmas are constitutionally bound-- no one is denying or criticizing that, and no one should. And, while the bond between DST and Omega is not constituted in writing, the FACT REMAINS that these two orgs DO INDEED share a BOND! That being said, we as Deltas and Omegas have a right to be irritated and/or a little jealous that our sorors/bruhs are bonding with other orgs for whatever the reason. For those of us who acknowledge the HISTORICAL BOND and the TRADITIONS that have derived from it, we are simplly a little baffled at the thought of bruhs and sorors not having a loving, sibling relationship, yet we know that, for whatever reason, those things do happen.

But, no matter who the Ques kick it with on their yard or in their city, I know my Coleman Love runs so deep that I will always and forever give nothin' but LOVE to 'em. For me, it doesn't take a constitution or national recognition to create/strengthen my love for my burhs; all I need is the writing on my heart, not on paper.
And, I have NO DOUBT that if the ZPBS bond were not in writing, the love between the two orgs would be just as TIGHT because there's no way the two orgs could ignore their histories and the sibling connection that has ensued as a result. If we respect each other, we should respect each other's histories and traditions, and the things that are important to each of us!

Please, y'all-- let's stop with the back and forth pettiness on the board. If you want to address someone, you can always send a private message or e-mail. Please, someone-- be adult enough to end the defensive refutations, okay?

And I'm Out!

[PrettyKitty]

Originally posted by the411

Please, y'all-- let's stop with the back and forth pettiness on the board. If you want to address someone, you can always send a private message or e-mail. Please, someone-- be adult enough to end the defensive refutations, okay?

And I'm Out!

This has to be about the most mature statement I have read all day on here, I wish everyone got it, **sigh** newayZ...Much Respect!


Peace and God Bless!

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[ChaosDST]

This conversation has gotten out of hand. I thought we were too old for the school-yard-type dissing and battles. I agree with PrettyKitty in that, without National recognition, there are going to be different versions of soror/frat "bonds" and affiliations. We know the most common bonds, though. Most importantly, what's the fuss...I believe that folks were just trying to bring some humor to (an actually quite humorous) discussion. I may've been guilty of this, too, but all of this "ewww" and "gross" at other organizations' bonds (or perceived bonds) can be taken as straight-up disrespect. I don't take it that way, but I can see how all this conversation can be misconstrued and taken negatively. Finally, anyone is free to post anywhere...it's easy to misinterpret what someone means behind a post...so, instead of flying off the deep end, play it cool. Deez jes jokes and we're all family!!


OOO-OOP Sorors!
Coleman Love Bruhs!
Greek Love Greek Fam!

[ChaosDST]

Originally posted by the411
That being said, we as Deltas and Omegas have a right to be irritated and/or a little jealous that our sorors/bruhs are bonding with other orgs for whatever the reason. For those of us who acknowledge the HISTORICAL BOND and the TRADITIONS that have derived from it, we are simplly a little baffled at the thought of bruhs and sorors not having a loving, sibling relationship...

True Soror. I don't know who's fault it is...the Franks or the Ednas out there. But, the Colemans, as a collective, need to tighten up!

[mccoyred]

Point taken, Soror Moderator. I have edited my previous post somewhat .

While everyone IS entitled to post anywhere they wish, some tangents in threads just cause unnecessary DRAMA. I defer to the judgement of Bruh Moderator in deciding what is appropriate in HIS house.

I'm done!

Originally posted by the411
Yes, it is a FACT that ALL are welcomed to read and post in this forum as they please. I know for a fact that DoggyStyle82 doesn't believe in censorship (That is, unless you're perpetuating some myths/rumors about Que Psi Phi-- he'll break you off for that!), so no one has to question his/her freedom to post their comments or opinions in here. HOWEVER-- I am simply asking that we refrain from arguments and personal attacks! This is a time when we should be pulling together, folks! We're each entitled to our opinions, but there is a such thing as beating a dead horse.

And I'm Out!

[DSTSolo01]

Well, in continuing with the original subject of this post, I have two things to say. The first is a situation with a bruh - he's a neo. But I was informed of this through someone else.... Here the situation: Another bruh was having a party that had a mixture of sorors, bruhs and AKA's there. Lo and behold, one of the bruhs (the neo) is seen strollin through the party with some AKA's. So while they're throwing up pinkies, he's throwing up hooks! So when they sorors and other bruhs saw this, they pulled him aside and hemmed him up! They were mad and basically chewed him out. So needless to say, he didn't do that anymore. But point of the story is, sorors and bruhs were insulted to see a bruh defect from the bond right in their face! I think that is disrespectful, personally. I was interested in hearing what other sorors and bruhs thought about this situation.. Would you say something?

But on a lighter note, the other thing I wanted to say was that I recently got engaged to my boyfriend who is An Alpha !!!! Yeah, the bruhs said something to me about it, and after thoroughly dissing the Alphas, they congratulated me. But that was expected

But even though my Alpha man is my heart - I still got nothin' but love for the bruhs....COLEMAN LUV 4EVER


Alexis
Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc.
#1 Braveheart
Rho Iota, Spring 2001

[#1 Leading Lady]

Originally posted by DSTSolo01
Well, in continuing with the original subject of this post, I have two things to say. The first is a situation with a bruh - he's a neo. But I was informed of this through someone else.... Here the situation: Another bruh was having a party that had a mixture of sorors, bruhs and AKA's there. Lo and behold, one of the bruhs (the neo) is seen strollin through the party with some AKA's. So while they're throwing up pinkies, he's throwing up hooks! So when they sorors and other bruhs saw this, they pulled him aside and hemmed him up! They were mad and basically chewed him out. So needless to say, he didn't do that anymore. But point of the story is, sorors and bruhs were insulted to see a bruh defect from the bond right in their face! I think that is disrespectful, personally. I was interested in hearing what other sorors and bruhs thought about this situation.. Would you say something?

But on a lighter note, the other thing I wanted to say was that I recently got engaged to my boyfriend who is An Alpha !!!! Yeah, the bruhs said something to me about it, and after thoroughly dissing the Alphas, they congratulated me. But that was expected

But even though my Alpha man is my heart - I still got nothin' but love for the bruhs....COLEMAN LUV 4EVER


Alexis
Delta Sigma Theta Sorority, Inc.
#1 Braveheart
Rho Iota, Spring 2001

CONGRATS on the engagement SOROR!!

[CrimsonTide4]

CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR ENGAGEMENT SOROR!!!

[DoggyStyle82]

Congrats Soror on your engagement. I have been to a few Delta/Alpha weddings. That Bruh from Bloomsburg that you gave the piggyback ride to didn't stand a chance huh?

[DSTSolo01]

Thank you all Doggystyle, how did you know about the piggyback ride!?!?!?! Please don't tell me you were there!!! Please e-mail me like ASAP at anb64@pitt.edu and let a sista know!!!