PIKE Update

[NinjaPoodle]

Originally posted by Phasad1913
the one on the far right is a cutie..but I don't know if I could see a DST/PKA license plate.

Yeah he is a cutie

[FeeFee]

Originally posted by Phasad1913
the one on the far right is a cutie..but I don't know if I could see a DST/PKA license plate.

LOL!!!!!

[Empress0105]

As an HU student...I am very glad that PKA has come to campus...I see it as ground breaking...and I am proud my HBCU is the first to do so....but I do have a few points I want to mention...

The D9 orgs on campus (in my opinion) need to take a looong hard look at themselves. They disrespect EVERY other Greek org on the yard, not just social ones. I have had Deltas tell me I am either not Greek or a "half" Greek just because neither one of my orgs is PanHell...when D9 members run major school publications (IE the Yearbook or the newspaper) magically other Greek orgs on campus get shunned and called "clubs" or "groups". Mnay of them view the non Pan Hell Greeks as "stepping stones" to become Pan Hell...it's riduclous. Kappa Alpha Psi (which hasn't been on the yard offically in 5 years at least) gets more respect from student activites (which is filled with D9 members) than orgs with stable membership intake on the yard (such as the largest 3 frats on the yard: Phi Sigma Pi, Alph aPhi Omega, and Delta Sigma Pi). Who remembers when Alpha Phi Omega rechartered...and the Alphas and Ques cut a damn fool? I REMEMBER VIVDLY having Deltas disrespect me and my LSs when we rechartered Gamma Sigma Sigma and have continued to do so ever since....my TBS Chapter had some random Sigma post hateful messages on our guestbook on our website, yelling at us throwing up "his frat's sign". How many articles were posted in the Hilltop last year saying only the D9 have the right to have line numbers, names, colors, hand signs, and calls? TOO MANY TO NAME. I feel it is a spit in the face of yoru founders (many of whom came form HU by the way) the way some of your memebership disses the non D9 on this campus...do you have to criticize others in order to make yourself look good? That's the impression I get from the actives at this school...well, at least the actives who were here the past few years.

I would think you would rather they go and charter a frat they feel they would belong to rather than to pledge your orgs and be a do nothing memebr......


That's just my 2 cents....I could go on longer...but I know my words will probably fall on deaf ears...

[Empress0105]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ladygreek
[B]"The colony is the largest Greek fraternity on campus with as many men as its nearest competitor."

I find that hard to believe....Alpha Phi Omega and Phi Sigma Pi CONSISTENTLY have HUGE numbers

[ladygreek]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Empress0105
[B]

Originally posted by ladygreek
"The colony is the largest Greek fraternity on campus with as many men as its nearest competitor."

I find that hard to believe....Alpha Phi Omega and Phi Sigma Pi CONSISTENTLY have HUGE numbers

I had more of an issue with the idea of competition, not the issue of who had the largest numbers. Why would APO be considered a competitor anyway since you can hold joint membership in APO and a BGLO? (I am not familiar with Phi Sigma Pi.) And just to be clear, that statement came from the PIKA national website.

As for your previous post, spell check and white space are your friends.

If you what you say is true, then I am sorry for what happened to you. But I also have to ask was there an action that caused such a reaction?

[Tom Earp]

Originally posted by ladygreek
I had more of an issue with the idea of competition, not the issue of who had the largest numbers. Why would APO be considered a competitor anyway since you can hold joint membership in APO and a BGLO? (I am not familiar with Phi Sigma Pi.) And just to be clear, that statement came from the PIKA national website.

As for your previous post, spell check and white space are your friends.

If you what you say is true, then I am sorry for what happened to you. But I also have to ask was there an action that caused such a reaction?

Well said!






Empress0105, there is a difference between Social and Service Greek Organizations and there can and is intermingingling among these Greeks.

I appreciate what You did say about PKA coming to Campus, but Howard is not the first HBC to have other than D9( Organizations) on Campus. The Newest one LXA, before Howard is N C A & T. THere were others before us also. I think, TKE and SPi.

[sigmadiva]

Originally posted by Empress0105


....my TBS Chapter had some random Sigma post hateful messages on our guestbook on our website, yelling at us throwing up "his frat's sign". How many articles were posted in the Hilltop last year saying only the D9 have the right to have line numbers, names, colors, hand signs, and calls? TOO MANY TO NAME. I feel it is a spit in the face of yoru founders (many of whom came form HU by the way) the way some of your memebership disses the non D9 on this campus...do you have to criticize others in order to make yourself look good? That's the impression I get from the actives at this school...well, at least the actives who were here the past few years.

I would think you would rather they go and charter a frat they feel they would belong to rather than to pledge your orgs and be a do nothing memebr......


That's just my 2 cents....I could go on longer...but I know my words will probably fall on deaf ears...

First, no one has any right to disrespect anyone, greek or not. Now here comes the big BUT............

I do understand the animosity towards non-D9s using hand sign / calls / line names and numbers. (I'm not saying it is right, I'm just saying I understand.) Presumably (?sp), these traditions started within the D9 (exactly which D9 did what first is always up for debate a la' which D9 frat stepped with canes first, KAY or PBS....), so to have the hand signs / line names and numbers usurped by non-D9s feels like the non-D9s are stealing our (D9) tradtions. The thought is like 'Hey, if you wanted to do hand signs, line names / numbers and do calls, why didn't you join a D9?' AFAIK, these D9 'traditions' are common and consistent among all D9 chapters (at HBCUs, PWIs, grad and undergrad chapters), unlike GSS or TBS, where at a PWI, they may not do the hand signs / line names and numbers and etc. just because it is not common among Whites. (Again, not to offend, just trying to offer a perspective on the situation)

[Tom Earp]

Excuse Me, but D9s are not the only ones that use hand signs or maybe some of the other things You listed, but maybe under different names.

Are D9 Greeks that so different from other non D9 Greeks? Dont actually think so!

Maybe in their own minds.

[sigmadiva]

Originally posted by Tom Earp
Excuse Me, but D9s are not the only ones that use hand signs or maybe some of the other things You listed, but maybe under different names.

Are D9 Greeks that so different from other non D9 Greeks? Dont actually think so!

Maybe in their own minds.

I never said we (D9) were the only ones, I just implied that we were (probably) the first to do them, then everyone else just copied.


Well, yes, D9 greeks are so different, and not just in our minds. Afterall, many imitate *us*.

[Honeykiss1974]

On a totally unrelated note...I didn't know Horace Grant was a Pike.

[Erik P Conard]

I did not know that either, but he used a hand sign, likely copied.

[PGPeripheryGirl]

Originally posted by sigmadiva
First, no one has any right to disrespect anyone, greek or not. Now here comes the big BUT............

I do understand the animosity towards non-D9s using hand sign / calls / line names and numbers. (I'm not saying it is right, I'm just saying I understand.) Presumably (?sp), these traditions started within the D9 (exactly which D9 did what first is always up for debate a la' which D9 frat stepped with canes first, KAY or PBS....), so to have the hand signs / line names and numbers usurped by non-D9s feels like the non-D9s are stealing our (D9) tradtions. The thought is like 'Hey, if you wanted to do hand signs, line names / numbers and do calls, why didn't you join a D9?' AFAIK, these D9 'traditions' are common and consistent among all D9 chapters (at HBCUs, PWIs, grad and undergrad chapters), unlike GSS or TBS, where at a PWI, they may not do the hand signs / line names and numbers and etc. just because it is not common among Whites. (Again, not to offend, just trying to offer a perspective on the situation)

Good point. I never thought of it like that.

[gamma_girl52]

Originally posted by sigmadiva
First, no one has any right to disrespect anyone, greek or not. Now here comes the big BUT............

I do understand the animosity towards non-D9s using hand sign / calls / line names and numbers. (I'm not saying it is right, I'm just saying I understand.) Presumably (?sp), these traditions started within the D9 (exactly which D9 did what first is always up for debate a la' which D9 frat stepped with canes first, KAY or PBS....), so to have the hand signs / line names and numbers usurped by non-D9s feels like the non-D9s are stealing our (D9) tradtions. The thought is like 'Hey, if you wanted to do hand signs, line names / numbers and do calls, why didn't you join a D9?' AFAIK, these D9 'traditions' are common and consistent among all D9 chapters (at HBCUs, PWIs, grad and undergrad chapters), unlike GSS or TBS, where at a PWI, they may not do the hand signs / line names and numbers and etc. just because it is not common among Whites. (Again, not to offend, just trying to offer a perspective on the situation)

Actually I've heard this perspective many times as a Gamma Sig, and to a point I understand--but I wonder sometimes if any of the behavior that Empress talked about would stop if we had that type of consistency across the board. Probably not, and I say that just due to other details about Gamma Sig that some Greeks don't agree with. But this isn't about GSS, this is about Pike...

Just like any other new org, these guys felt that the organizations at Howard weren't for them, so they found an organization that DID fit them--it just wasn't any of the orgs established at HU already. Is it going to be easy for them? No,
but if they want to see their chapter work, they know what they need to do to make it work. If not, they'll falter and close. It is just that simple to me.

If they joined Pike for the right reasons, it really won't matter what the rest of the HU community is saying. They need to just do what they need to do, and do it well. Actions speak much louder than words. It was the same thing I told my GSS sisters at HU when they were just beginning as well. It was very hard for them too, but they did everything to the best of their ability and are doing quite well.

I'm sure these guys knew going in that Pike wasn't going to be welcomed with open arms, but were willing to take that chance and I applaud them for their efforts. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out.

[Rain Man]

Well, I'm in DC right now and will be here throughout the weekend.

If I get a minute, I might be able to swing by Howard and perhaps I can meet the Pikes firsthand.

I'll keep you posted...

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by Rain Man
Well, I'm in DC right now and will be here throughout the weekend.

If I get a minute, I might be able to swing by Howard and perhaps I can meet the Pikes firsthand.

I'll keep you posted...

People aren't going to let these new PIKES rest. They are going to get more visitors than Disneyland. And for what, really?