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Old 11-24-2004, 10:47 AM
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I didn't see Kevin Spacey on the list, but I've heard he's gay.
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Old 11-24-2004, 03:18 PM
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I didn't see Kevin Spacey on the list, but I've heard he's gay.
Esquire said he was, but in Playboy he says he's not.

So that's why he's not on the list.
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Old 11-24-2004, 03:57 PM
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I just read this thread, and it's a total trainwreck - I love it! Keep it going, kids!

Also - how far have we really come as far as liberation of sexual orientation that this thread even exists? I think the frame of mind of Jack (from "Will and Grace") is the brighest: pretend it doesn't exist, b/c it doesn't affect your work in the slightest.

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--socialed medicine is a joke unless you're scandinavian, so can we stop discussing it like it's some high-minded virtue?
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Old 11-28-2004, 09:43 PM
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Oh honey...private life, schmivate life. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is a duck!
That's like my saying (appropriately stolen from the movie "Broken Hearts Club"): "Oh please, that's like saying 'he's not gay, he's in a fraternity."
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Old 11-28-2004, 09:53 PM
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Are Bert and Ernie really Gay?
"All that stuff about me and Bert? It's not true. We're both very happy, but we're not gay."
--Sesame Street puppet Ernie
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Old 11-28-2004, 09:55 PM
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"All that stuff about me and Bert? It's not true. We're both very happy, but we're not gay."
--Sesame Street puppet Ernie
I hope that they use protection.
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Old 11-30-2004, 06:18 PM
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Did Anderson just nudge the door open?

I know we were talking about Anderson Cooper in another thread, but I just read this transcript snippet on a weblog and had to post it here.

Coop was interviewing the Rev. Jerry Falwell about gay marriage last night when this exchange happened (emphasis mine):

COOPER: But there are a lot of gay families out there, Reverend Falwell, there are a lot of gay families out there. I think there are like a million kids being raised by gay parents who say that if you want to protect families, you know, civil unions will give inheritance rights, will give Social Security, survivor benefits rights to...

FALWELL: Anderson, that's all a red herring. If you want to leave something to your cat, you can do that in your will...

COOPER: It's not a red herring. That's simply not true. It's not true. You know we pay taxes.

The full transcript is here: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIP...29/acd.01.html
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Old 11-30-2004, 06:23 PM
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The point is...WHY DO PEOPLE CARE??? I just find it so amazing that so many people in this country want to know about another person's sex life, but will not let them have the same freedoms that they enjoy!
I care because it's important for people to be able to put a very public face on something, no, someone that they're often really quick to demonize.
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Old 11-30-2004, 06:32 PM
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I care because it's important for people to be able to put a very public face on something, no, someone that they're often really quick to demonize.
Thank you. That's exactly how I feel.
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Old 12-01-2004, 12:38 AM
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That's like my saying (appropriately stolen from the movie "Broken Hearts Club"): "Oh please, that's like saying 'he's not gay, he's in a fraternity."
Exactly....my favorite comeback to people who say "He's not gay, he's married".

Yeah, at one point in time, Liberace was married too. (Yes, to a woman).
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Old 12-01-2004, 11:26 AM
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I guess for me, living in San Francisco, homosexuality just doesn't have the same need for a "famous face" to be associated with it. I get to see non-famous people live with their partners and go to work and raise families and do all the things that heterosexuals do -and it's no big deal. I don't need to know about Anderson Cooper or Kevin Spacey or anyone else, when my friends are Harry and Randy, or Paul and Jim, or Kathy and Gina-gay/lesbian couples in committed, long term relationships. This is why I am so happy to live where I live...
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Old 12-01-2004, 04:56 PM
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I guess for me, living in San Francisco, homosexuality just doesn't have the same need for a "famous face" to be associated with it. I get to see non-famous people live with their partners and go to work and raise families and do all the things that heterosexuals do -and it's no big deal. I don't need to know about Anderson Cooper or Kevin Spacey or anyone else, when my friends are Harry and Randy, or Paul and Jim, or Kathy and Gina-gay/lesbian couples in committed, long term relationships. This is why I am so happy to live where I live...
That's fair. It's also good that you have been positively impacted by living in a community such as yours.
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Old 12-01-2004, 05:54 PM
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I guess for me, living in San Francisco, homosexuality just doesn't have the same need for a "famous face" to be associated with it. I get to see non-famous people live with their partners and go to work and raise families and do all the things that heterosexuals do -and it's no big deal. I don't need to know about Anderson Cooper or Kevin Spacey or anyone else, when my friends are Harry and Randy, or Paul and Jim, or Kathy and Gina-gay/lesbian couples in committed, long term relationships. This is why I am so happy to live where I live...
Brother Steve, well said.

I get the same thing from living in Manhattan, and from working in retail in Manhattan. I've learned that most gay people lead boring lives, just like most straight people.

The media doesn't portray regular gay people, for the same reason why they don't portray regular fraternities. Both are too normal to be newsworthy or interesting to most.

Basically, the only gay people that most Americans see in the Media are either extreme examples of gays, or celebrities who choose to share their private lives with the public. This makes it important for gay celebrities to be out of the closet, but only if they choose to be.
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