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Old 05-14-2004, 02:09 PM
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--You must have been really fighting really hard on what to post to me if you took that long to write that; I admire your discipline pops.
Thanks.

The other possibility is that I was ignoring you.
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Old 05-14-2004, 02:38 PM
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Thanks.

The other possibility is that I was ignoring you.
All I said is that it took a lot for you to...in fact you had to tell me you were ignoring me, went to edit your earlier post, and all that so it's not the best discipline, but for now it'll do. I look forward to your post in the other thread.

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Old 05-14-2004, 02:40 PM
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Update from across the pond:

Daily Mirror editor resigns over abuse pictures

LONDON (Reuters) - Piers Morgan, the editor of the Daily Mirror, has resigned over publication of pictures of the alleged abuse of Iraqi prisoners by British troops that proved to be fake.

"The Board of Trinity Mirror has decided that it would be inappropriate for Piers Morgan to continue in his role as Editor of the Daily Mirror and he will therefore be stepping down with immediate effect," the newspaper said in a statement on Friday.
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Old 05-14-2004, 03:05 PM
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Gotta tell ya...with all of the electronic graphic tools available today, this stuff could become a nightmare, not only for publishers, but judges, etc.
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Old 05-14-2004, 03:09 PM
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Gotta tell ya...with all of the electronic graphic tools available today, this stuff could become a nightmare, not only for publishers, but judges, etc.
Isn't it pretty easy to tell? I mean to the common eye it's difficult to see what someone did with a bootleg copy of photoshop, but to someone that has worked with that material before it shouldn't be too hard. Were the British photos even manipulated? I thought they were enacted...

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Yep... the thought is that they were staged somewhere in the UK...

Six of the reasons cited are:

1) wrong headdress for troops (ie. the hat was wrong for troops in Iraq)
2) the vehicle that the pictures were taken in hasn't been deployed outside of the UK
3) the troops and "prisoner" seemed exceptionally clean
4) photos seemed to be of unusually high quality
5) the troops weapon was "marked" for a comabt zone (stencile of serial on butt).
6) the troops boots were laced incorrectly too.. British (and some Canadian) military practice is to have the laces straight across, not criss-cross.
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Old 05-14-2004, 04:07 PM
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Yep... the thought is that they were staged somewhere in the UK...

Six of the reasons cited are:

1) wrong headdress for troops (ie. the hat was wrong for troops in Iraq)
2) the vehicle that the pictures were taken in hasn't been deployed outside of the UK
3) the troops and "prisoner" seemed exceptionally clean
4) photos seemed to be of unusually high quality
5) the troops weapon was "marked" for a comabt zone (stencile of serial on butt).
6) the troops boots were laced incorrectly too.. British (and some Canadian) military practice is to have the laces straight across, not criss-cross.
It seems the press and media in England has been quite good at not checking facts and making things up lately.

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Old 05-14-2004, 06:58 PM
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Well it was the Mirror which I like to think of a Enquirer that tried to break into the "legit" market.... but just couldn't shake that tabloid feel of reporting.

Oh well thats what they get they go for sesationalism over substance....
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Old 05-14-2004, 06:59 PM
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Isn't it pretty easy to tell? I mean to the common eye it's difficult to see what someone did with a bootleg copy of photoshop, but to someone that has worked with that material before it shouldn't be too hard. Were the British photos even manipulated? I thought they were enacted...

-Rudey
I think that it is easier to tell in better pictures. When stuff gets "grainy" and people fuzz stuff out, it's harder to tell the real from the fabricated.
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Old 05-16-2004, 04:23 AM
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man....there's some f-ed sht going on in the world right now
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Old 05-16-2004, 09:23 AM
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man....there's some f-ed sht going on in the world right now
My sentiments exactly....well can I substitute ONE teeny word???
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