Greek Decline - Page 6

mccoyred · #1 07-29-2003, 03:10 PM

Quite frankly, not everyone IS Greek material or even Delta, AKA, SGRho or Zeta material. Just because someone wants to be a member doesn't mean that they can or will be.

In general, I feel the decline is also in part due to the fact that non-members do not respect the struggles of the past - in our orgs or in Black history overall. There is a sense of entitlement among the non-Greeks and even some who made it.

In addition, there is too much pettiness, backbiting and inappropriate public displays going on in our chapters. We need to police our chapter bros/sorors a little better.

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Originally posted by sleepy
I truly believe that a big reason is also how the organizations approach the non-greeks. Sometimes they think so high of theirselves that they disrepect the future. When young people want to know about and organization and ask someone they tend to get shruged off or told something rude. You have to think that with out the non-greeks their can't be greeks. Then non-greeks feel they have to be perfect to get into an organization because they tend to believe that they have to be stuck up or classy or rough and a number of many things that discourage non-greeks. I want to be and AKA but I am nervous to approach one because people are in my ear telling me don't let them know just go to thier events or don't ask they get mad when you ask. I have seen a couple of examples when my friends would walk up to a sorority member and ask a question. They told her she is not greek material. She cried because her heart was set on it and I told she can do anything she wants just pray and be strong. Someone please reply(NOT DISREPECTING ANYONE THAT IS IN AN ORGANIZATION)

sweet26 · #2 07-29-2003, 03:22 PM

I think there is a greek decline because of disrespect for people in general. I remember visiting a few sites in the past and I could not believe the humiliation. Just plan rude people. We have to remember whence we came. It should not be about affiliation or status. It's bigger than that.

I am sure some people want the greek life for all the wrong reasons. However, there are still a lot of good ones out there that have been waiting a long time, but have just become impatient.

Lastly, a lot of us lack the time. We have become a very educated nation now more than ever before. A lot of us are getting older and priorities have changed or better yet have been rearranged. We have families now, and mortgages to pay ect.

nachural · #3 07-29-2003, 03:32 PM

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Originally posted by sweet26

Lastly, a lot of us lack the time. We have become a very educated nation now more than ever before. A lot of us are getting older and priorities have changed or better yet have been rearranged. We have families now, and mortgages to pay ect.

Families on the undergraduate level? Well I guess...if we remeber the lady from Cali I beleive she had son. But I dont think that's the majority of Undergraduates. I think that in the founding years of most of the D9, grades were more important then they are now, not to say that they aren't now. Also the BGLOs were also study groups for blacks so they could maintain higher averages etc. Besides the fact that members of GLOs have different majors I doubt that a lot of sister or brother relations has to do with studying

mccoyred · #4 07-29-2003, 04:13 PM

These are the majority (not ALL) of people who tend to be NON-FINANCIAL if they do make it in so maybe that isn't so bad...

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Originally posted by AKA2D '91

I don't see it. I don't see it, because there are those who overcame the grade issue, the major issue, the money issue etc. I'm with Soror AKAMonet on what she said earlier. SOME can get Gucci this, Prada that, ride around in big time vehicles on campus, etc. but want to claim NO MONEY to join an organization...Come on now. That is another issue in and of itself (priorities, etc) So, no I cannot see it, because ANYTHING IS possible. IT CAN BE DONE. It takes HARD WORK and it is not going to be given freely because some may think they are ENTITLED to it.

sigmadiva · #5 07-29-2003, 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by encouraged1

I feel as though black greek life as become too 'commerical'. There's too many stepshows, greek fests, picnics and beach parties.

It seems that whatever started out in the D9 - stepshows, hand signs, calls- always end up getting copied and imitated by non-D9 greeks. Why is that?

I was a judge for a step competition and one group was a chapter from a WGLO sorority and they were out there steppin'.

sweet26 · #6 07-29-2003, 04:55 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by nachural
[B]Families on the undergraduate level?

I was actually referring to people that have degrees.

encouraged1 · #7 07-29-2003, 07:00 PM

There is no law that says WGLO's can't step! I'm not surprised that they would. They see it on MTV and think it's cool. It doesn't bother me as long as they don't get the credit for 'inventing' it.

sigmadiva · #8 07-29-2003, 07:22 PM

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Originally posted by encouraged1
There is no law that says WGLO's can't step! I'm not surprised that they would. They see it on MTV and think it's cool. It doesn't bother me as long as they don't get the credit for 'inventing' it.

Oh, I have no problem with them stepping either. Its like you said, just give credit where credit is due. But, maybe because a few non-D9 orgs and even high school groups step now, that is probably why it seems so commercial, because everybody is doing it. It is no longer unique to D9 orgs.

And, (back to topic) if someone does not want to join a D9 group because of too many step shows and such, then don't join. If that is what you (general) think D9 groups are all about, then you (general) really have no clue.

BTW, the award money given for competing in these step shows can really help the chapter's account.

nachural · #9 07-29-2003, 07:32 PM

On the graduate level I believe that a reason for the decline may be that the organizations aren't seen. And it's not like you can just sign up you have to been chosen. So it's a little different. If the chapter isn't visible then people who are interested can't volunteer with them. I dont know but I dont think they go around saying what they are gonna be doing in the community. On the graduate level interests have to really be serious! Absolutely no half steppin'. I think it's a lot harder for you to become a member on the graduate level. You have to be seen by the chapter being active in the community and even if you are really active they dont have to see you. I dunno

LADY_1908 · #10 07-29-2003, 08:23 PM

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Originally posted by nachural
On the graduate level I believe that a reason for the decline may be that the organizations aren't seen. And it's not like you can just sign up you have to been chosen. So it's a little different. If the chapter isn't visible then people who are interested can't volunteer with them.

I will only speak to Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Incorporated...I live in the Philadelphia area and from what I have seen there is definitely NOT a decline in interest on the graduate level.

The chapters in my immediate area (5 in Pennsylvania and 1 in Delaware) are HIGHLY VISIBLE. If an interested woman says that she can't "find out/get information" on a chapter then she is definitely NOT SERIOUS about her "quest".

AKA2D '91 · #11 07-29-2003, 08:32 PM

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Originally posted by nachural
On the graduate level I believe that a reason for the decline may be that the organizations aren't seen. And it's not like you can just sign up you have to been chosen. So it's a little different. If the chapter isn't visible then people who are interested can't volunteer with them. I dont know but I dont think they go around saying what they are gonna be doing in the community. On the graduate level interests have to really be serious! Absolutely no half steppin'. I think it's a lot harder for you to become a member on the graduate level. You have to be seen by the chapter being active in the community and even if you are really active they dont have to see you. I dunno

As far as Alpha Kappa Alpha, this is the way it's supposed to be. YOU don't need to see US. There should be something that allows US to see YOU. Do you feel me? You will see us AFTER THE FACT.

You don't need to volunteer with US. With the way grad chapters are growing by leaps and bounds...they don't need outside assitance. YOU JUST CONTINUE TO VOLUNTEER. DO SOMETHING NOT TO BE SEEN, BUT BECAUSE YOU CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. Remember this old hymn...."Let the work I've done speak for me...."

As far as this entire topic is concerned, I have not seen a GREEK DECLINE. It must be a regional thing.

Mccoyred. I guess so. (You've been MIA) lol

REIKI · #12 07-29-2003, 08:55 PM

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Originally posted by sigmadiva
It seems that whatever started out in the D9 - stepshows, hand signs, calls- always end up getting copied and imitated by non-D9 greeks. Why is that? I was a judge for a step competition and one group was a chapter from a WGLO sorority and they were out there steppin'.

Probably because "stepping", handsigns, and calls did not originate from BGLO's, but where made popular by BGLO's.

AKA2D '91 · #13 07-29-2003, 09:01 PM

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Originally posted by nachural
My sis, who's an AKA, was telling me that some greeks at her school rep real hard but have really bad programs that nobody goes to because the members there have bad reps. I guess if you rep you org. , you are not the "nicest" person on campus and your programs are not 'attractive', people won't support you stuff. That sucks...

So, have you discussed this conversation you are having with your sister? What does she think? Did she really say this? Was this about her chapter, too?

Back to your concern of Graduate chapters being visible or not... What does your sister say about this?

mccoyred · #14 07-30-2003, 10:27 AM

I pop in quite often, I just don't get to post much; it comes in spurts, like now! LOL

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Originally posted by AKA2D '91
Mccoyred. I guess so. (You've been MIA) lol

LawyerGal · #15 07-31-2003, 09:08 PM

I agree 110% w/ the second half of what you said, it is no joke, and there is NO 1/2 stepping at the Grad level and being an interest of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. poses an additional elememt to our quest because there is no Formal Rush as in undergrad (or the Grad chapters of other Orgs.), however I have not seen a decline on the Grad level in my area & even while in law school there were plenty of 'striving sisterfriends' of a variety of Orgs. and some of us made it along the way during our 3 years together and some of us are still waiting on God to say when (and IF) it will come to pass. But I must stay on the Grad level there is plenty of interest.

Originally posted by nachural
On the graduate level I believe that a reason for the decline may be that the organizations aren't seen. And it's not like you can just sign up you have to been chosen. So it's a little different. If the chapter isn't visible then people who are interested can't volunteer with them. I dont know but I dont think they go around saying what they are gonna be doing in the community. On the graduate level interests have to really be serious! Absolutely no half steppin'. I think it's a lot harder for you to become a member on the graduate level. You have to be seen by the chapter being active in the community and even if you are really active they dont have to see you. I dunno