Sen. Strom Thurmond

[OUlioness01]

in my own opinion i am not asking anyone to mourn him. i don't think that docetboy was telling you you had to either. he was expressing his opinioin as i am expreessing mine and you are expressing yours. obviously we all have our own feelings about this. we should all keep his family in our thoughts and parayer because it is VERY hard to lose someone we love. surely that isn't too much to ask, even of those who hold grudges against him for things long in the past. just please do this in a CIVIL fashion ok?

[RedefinedDiva]

Originally posted by midwesterngirl
Sadly enough,I have to question this as well.Good PR is a must in politics nowadays.I do question the sincerity of his change.Was his change of heart genuine or just good public relations?

From what I know and have read, it was NOT out of the goodness of his heart. As times changed, S. Carolina became 30% African-American. He also knew that those votes would make a difference. In an effort to win those votes, he knew that he had to do something to appease them. Therefore, he did make those "changes" ONLY in order to stay in office.

Hiring ONE Black American? Woo Hoo!
Voting on a 1982 Voting Act? Yeah right!
The 1982 Vote was only an amendment! The original act was in place already! His one little vote didn't make a difference. It would have passed with or without him, but he had to make a show out of it.

Either way, both of those things took place well over 20 years ago. What has he done LATELY to make a difference?

[Rudey]

Originally posted by CountryGurl
What I'm saying is yes maybe Nixon did make contributions but my community is still behind when it comes to the contributions given to the white community. Please trust me when I say that there are two communities

There are more than 2 communities in America. I'd rather promote the progress any of them makes towards equality instead of saying it's not good enough.

Originally posted by Bamboozled "Well, Strom was bad for many reasons. Surely you're not implying that Strom garnered support for Nixon from the southern states on an affirmative action platform? He was still preaching "segregation now and forever"."

While you may think he was bad for many reasons, you still brought up Nixon in this thread. I just challenged that. I didn't imply he went through the South promoting Nixon's AA accomplishments. However, once again, if Strom is tied to Dick (which he is) then the party's achievements in the area of AA can't be ignored.

-Rudey

[Bamboozled]

Originally posted by OUlioness01
i just please do this in a CIVIL fashion ok?

You keep bringing up this point. Who's not discussing this in a CIVIL fashion? Or does being uncivilized mean having an opposing view point? Yeah, I've been called a racist, LOL, and have had my posts censored, but I think I still retained my civility and so has everyone else. I think what you're really saying is say something nice or don't say anything at all and that's not going to happen. Forums are for discussion and I'm discussing how I feel about a horrible man's death.

[GeekyPenguin]

I think ultimately Strom represented his constituents very well - otherwise they wouldn't have kept electing him. While I certainly don't agree with many of the viewpoints the man held, he served the people who elected him. Isn't that the ultimate job of a senator or representative?

[CountryGurl]

Originally posted by Rudey
There are more than 2 communities in America. I'd rather promote the progress any of them makes towards equality instead of saying it's not good enough.

I can only speak for my community and trust me its not enough. Don't get me wrong I am proud of the achievements of the African American community but trust me when I say its still not enough. Once again I'm speaking on how things look on my side of the fence.

[OUlioness01]

you all are attacking each other, and now attacking me for disagreeing.
point 1

You're entitled to your opinion, as am I. If I see Strom as being bad rubbish, than that is what I stand by. You are in no position to determine what is and what is not called for.

someone was expressing the opinion merely that since the man is dead it is not in the best taste call someone a name and you told him (who has been alive much longer than you i'm guessing) that he cannot express his own opinion about your comment.

point 2

And who deleted my "bad rubbish" comment? Oh, I see.... people can profess their love for this blatant racist, but I can't voice my views. What kind of isht is that? But, I am LMAO that the "nigger" comment stayed. Y'all are too much for me.

another attack, this time on the moderator who was doing what he/she thought appropriate under the circumstances. i am not saying that the post should have been deleted but i do believe that you are being unreasonable.

point 3

It's called not dealing with racist people like you.

this was inappropriate as well. no one should be calling anyone racist. the perosn who made this comment was my sister and i respect her but i do think this was uncalled for.

point 4

Do you know me or something? Please don't make assumptions about my political beliefs.
--You have yet to make any valuable contributions to this thread.

rude, that is all i have to say. just rude

point 5

Get it?

that makes it sound like the person was trying to treat me as if i was a two year old.

please check the anger at the door and now let's get back to the reason we're all here.

[Bamboozled]

Oh, Puhleeze. So, bascially you just want a sugary-sweet, We Are The World type discussion? What good is any of it if you can't say what's on your mind. I didn't see one "attack" in anything you posted. It's called debating, disagreeing, dialouging (don't think that's a word, but still). I guess I just have a thick skin and unless someone calls me out of my name or physically threatens me, it's all fair game. "Attack" is such a funny word to use over the internet.

[docetboy]

This thread has gotten way off track from it's original purpose. This thread should be locked (well, it should of been locked three pages ago but that's a different story.

[Sistermadly]

Originally posted by Bamboozled
Forgive me if I'm not all broken up over here.

Ditto. My mama always told me that if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all, so....

No comment.

[docetboy]

Originally posted by Sistermadly
Ditto. My mama always told me that if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all, so....

No comment.

With that logic, that post nor Bamboozled posts should of never been made.

[swissmiss04]

I'm sure we could ask a mod, but I'm pretty sure Bamboozled's post was deleted because it used the n-word (which is 100% a nono in any situation) straight out and not somehow censored. It's not a matter of opposing viewpoints, just inappropriate language. Moderators, any comment???

[Sistermadly]

Originally posted by docetboy
With that logic, that post nor Bamboozled posts should of never been made.

On the contrary. Bamboozled said exactly what I wanted to say, but chose not to because (1) I knew how this thread would quickly devolve into mudslinging and accusations and (2) the less said about ol' Stromy, the better.

[docetboy]

Originally posted by Sistermadly
On the contrary. Bamboozled said exactly what I wanted to say, but chose not to because (1) I knew how this thread would quickly devolve into mudslinging and accusations and (2) the less said about ol' Stromy, the better.

Don't forget how this thread quickly did devolve into mudslinging and accusations, and the quickest way to get ol' Stromy off everyones minds is to simply let this thread go into the sunset into the no-mans land of threads after the first page...

With this mudslinging, you are simply keeping the focus of ol' Stromy on everyones minds.

[Sistermadly]

Originally posted by docetboy
With this mudslinging, you are simply keeping the focus of ol' Stromy on everyones minds.

Docet, sweetie, I'm not slinging any mud. Didn't you see where I said "No comment"?