Being Gay and Greek - Page 6

TKEmz894 · #1 07-07-2002, 07:30 PM

First you called me dishonorable to my organization, and to our founders.....So dont say you wherent personally attacking me, and that you are some how above my comments.Eventuallyou will find out that if you run your mouth all the time people will say mean things back to you.
Now as for sueing me do it what do you think you will get ? a broke down 78bronco........You want it come and get it......

And for the girl from Arkansas, I am sure you deal with the stigma of being a Southerner every day, and that is why you are so overly sensitive to the word Redneck........But alas you are just another case of someone outside of TKE thinking that you know so much about the fraternity that you can come after me too, when I stick up for the ideals of my fraternity.
The reason I called them Rednecks is that when they where Knights of Classic Lore, they petitioned the Phi Delta Thetas for a charter three differnet times, each time they where rejected. Why? Because the Pih Delta Thetas said they where nice guys but too country. And numerous people from interationals have reffered to them as that. So I am not hurting anyones feelings but your own misguided ones. I mean to say that because your org was started by TKE lil sis' doesnt mean you are the formost analyist on TKE history. Me being the TKE Histor for my chapter and personly knowing a great deal of older TKEs and men associated with founding over 50 of our chapters does make me somewhat of one on this thread.......SO BUTT OUT!!!!!!!!
As for Rednecks there is nothing wrong with that it just means you are country, my roomate is a redneck. He has no problem with me calling him that. Because rednecks are people who work out in the sun all day, hence the redneck, and those are the people that fed you retards......
Oh and I would like to ask this Question........
Since yall are in the south would yall let a black girl pledge?
Now dont lie on this thread to seem politically correct! My chapters (in the Deep south) answer to that is yes, we have 3 black men in our fraternity, as well as Jews, catholics,protestants, and Mexicans, and Puerto Ricans, Costa Ricans, and Peruvians! All of which would have a real problem with a Gay guy trying to pledge. So I am not being disrespectful to my founders, just to yall cause yall are ignorant and hypocrtical.........BLAISE
So who is the hypocarte

pbear19 · #2 07-07-2002, 08:08 PM

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Originally posted by TKEmz894

And for the girl from Arkansas, I am sure you deal with the stigma of being a Southerner every day, and that is why you are so overly sensitive to the word Redneck........But alas you are just another case of someone outside of TKE thinking that you know so much about the fraternity that you can come after me too, when I stick up for the ideals of my fraternity.

Oh and I would like to ask this Question........
Since yall are in the south would yall let a black girl pledge?
Now dont lie on this thread to seem politically correct! My chapters (in the Deep south) answer to that is yes, we have 3 black men in our fraternity, as well as Jews, catholics,protestants, and Mexicans, and Puerto Ricans, Costa Ricans, and Peruvians! All of which would have a real problem with a Gay guy trying to pledge. So I am not being disrespectful to my founders, just to yall cause yall are ignorant and hypocrtical.........BLAISE
So who is the hypocarte

Actually, I just moved to Arkansas. My "misguided feelings" stem from the fact that the term redneck is a derogatory term in the English language. Country does not equal redneck. I have never before heard the word redneck used in anything but a condescending manner. Hence my embarrassment. Maybe you've heard your international officers call their founders rednecks, but was it around non-TKEs?

Also, was your question about whether I have non-white sisters directed at me? Because if so, the answer is yes, but my organization would certainly not be considered to be located in the south. Again, I just moved here. But I'm curious as to what that has to do with this discussion, as no one has indicated they feel homophobia is a caucasion only problem.

ROWDYsister · #3 07-07-2002, 08:50 PM

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Originally posted by TKEmz894
How am I supposed to trust some dude thats a flamer to take me home when I am drunk and passed out? That dude could be trying to F-me. I know yall are gonna have the argument that not all gay guys want to jump on all straight guys.........But thats bullsh*t. They are guys, they will make a move at some point.

This is not the matter at hand, but you're saying that chances are most gay men will try to sodomize other men when they get the chance. But if you are passed out, doesn't that then translate into rape? Do you really think that all gay men will try to commit such an act or even willingly hit on a straight man? There are times when I'm sure they will hit on a man they think is gay but be mistaken, but to assume that they will all engage in a sexual activity with a straight man is taking it too far.

That's like me not trusting ANY guy to take me home if I'm drunk and passed out, b/c "they are guys, they will make a move at some point."

KDambular · #4 07-07-2002, 09:08 PM

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Originally posted by UNFSigmaChi
I personally do not like or would want a gay person pledged and initiated into Sigma Chi. Its not necesarily that I hate gay people..i mean hey i work at TGI Fridays in Florida, its like gay server central, but according to the ideals and values of which my Fraternity stands, I know that gay men shouldn't be allowed. I like them as a person but i do not at all support their lifestyle. My chapter has no gay members, but I have met a couple gay sigma chi's and i've told them that since they are initiated I have to treat them as a brother, but i wish they hadn't been initiated and don't feel they are following our founders principals. And yes if I found out that one of my pledges were gay I would expell them.
I also feel that a gay Sigma Chi would not and can not represent my Fraternity well. Now if your organization's ritual allows gay men or women that is fine, but not mine. I know im going to get blasted by people, but you have no idea what my fraternity stands for so don't tell me that I am wrong. There is a gay Chi Phi at my school who I had to work with when i was in IFC who did a lot for his Fraternity, but he also caused them a lot of grief for being gay and it hurts their rush every semester as well.

I have to say my jaw dropped when I read your reply. To be completely honest I'm disappointed in Sigma Chi that they have someone so narrow minded as you are. Do you realize what year it is?! It is 2002, it's time to get over it. Gays and Lesbians exist,

UNFSigmaChi · #5 07-07-2002, 10:19 PM

Well sorry if you think im narrow minded. Yes i know gays and lesbians exist. From what i've read they have been around since the roman era...if not longer. Still doesn't mean its morally right. I believe in my ideals and morals and try not to leave them behind to join the beliefs of the crowd. Just because someone says, "Hey its 2002 and its ok to be gay now," doesn't mean that everyone who disagrees is suddenly narrow minded. Good grief, you can tolerate and live with people if you don't agree with their lifestyle.
Maybe your the narrow minded one?!

In AOT and Ta Kala Diokomen

Tom Earp · #6 07-07-2002, 10:43 PM

To TKEMZ and Sig Guy, If I said I was gay would you dislike me?

I wont say I was on the phone to a TKE who has more Knowledge about your Fraternity than you ever thought about knowing!

Sig Chi Guy, What the Fu%^ over!

No I am not Gay But also got off of the phone with a LXA Brother Who Called me from NY!

Yes we are Brothers and talk a lot because we have respect for each other! This goes for the same of talking to an Old TKE who happens to be a very good freind of mine.

OK I do not like Red Heads as was married to one once! I do not like Asians as Dated one once and broke my heart, dont like Southern Girls as lived with one and got screwed by her!

What the hell is wrong with you all!?

You think your tighty whitey is so good looking that some FAG is going to Butt Munch Ya!?

Hell If I was was one of the Many good looking ladys on GC, I would not give either one of you a second look!

Get off of your asses and look at the real world! Jono is a Brother that I am Proud to call my Brother and always will!

Well the real reason I like him is that he is shorter than me!

If none of this made sense then I did my job here!

Shit runs down hill, then you figure out you are at the bottom of the food chain!

kddani · #7 07-07-2002, 10:53 PM

UNFSigmaChi-
Please stop referring to Kappa Delta. KD has nothing to do with any of this. Please do not use "AOT" and "Ta Kala Diokomen". You don't know what they mean, and they're not yours to use. Abusing another sorority is not needed here.
Just because one of our members has the guts to stand up to you and disagree with you does not give you license to abuse me and every other Kappa Delta.
Moderators, please end this. I am offended by this. Not by the topic, but how he is using my sorority in his posts.

JonoBN41 · #8 07-07-2002, 10:57 PM

You folks crack me up! It sounds like you're scripting a new sit-com. I'm laughing my butt off here.

Who's this character who keeps writing "yall"? I don't think he's a TKE at all - just someone trying to give them a bad rep.

I am gay and all my brothers know it. One of them I haven't seen for 15 years just visited me for a week and we did hug a few times before turning in for the night.

My nephew left today after staying for the weekend and we hugged too. He's a TKE (a REAL TKE) He raises 30K - 50K a year for scholarships, and I admire him for doing that.

Next week my Little Brother is going to visit. Maybe with his wife and two kids (his daughter who just turned 21 is my Godchild).

As for me, I'm the president of our alumni association. The past pesident was gay, and another current officer is also.

So what's the problem?

Is it because I'm a Lambda Chi?

Jono

JonoBN41 · #9 07-07-2002, 11:13 PM

Thank you Tom,

It's nice to know that 30+ years ago we both made the best decision. See you at Founders' Day!

Jono

TKEmz894 · #10 07-08-2002, 01:35 AM

Firts off Jono, I am a real TKE Mu Zeta 894, and Mr Earp I know Eric Conard, the man you are reffering to. So what if yall know old TKEs. I and my Chapter are entitled to our own opinions. That is what this whole discussion started about. Whether we had the right to exclude a potential pledge if he was Gay. And all of the sudden you have 3 or 4 sorority girls going off on us saying that we arent representing our Founders and are not following the ideals of our fraternitys.......and they arent members of our fraternitys..........Well none of that really matters because Sig chi and myself are both senior members in our Fraternitys and we dont want gay members in, so they wont be joining TKE at Nicholls, and Sigma Chi at North Florida........So deal with it and respect ourt opinions that we dont like gay people.
And really to act like this doesnt normally go on everywhere is a joke, I see it at every Greek system I visit.
Oh and to say the term Red neck is derogatory is a joke, just like coon ass is derogatory to Acadians........And I am a coon ass!!!!!
And if yall look at most sororitys in the south they dont have Black members, why because they are still racist. But my chapter is not racist, just homophobic...............So yall should be happy we got halfway politically correct for yall...........Blaise

TKEmz894 · #11 07-08-2002, 01:42 AM

I was reffering to the fact that every org discriminates, and in the south its usually against black people. For the kd girl to get all over me about not wanting gay people in my fraternity is a joke because I am sure her chapter doesnt even try to recruit black women, and wouldnt give a black girl a bid. And Mr Earp no I would not hate you, I just wouldnt want you in TKE.........

JonoBN41 · #12 07-08-2002, 02:15 AM

Hey TKEmz894,

Some night I meet you in a alley, my face scare you, belly bump you. Then I beat yo ass. Next day, "Some fag done beat me up!"

Sorry folks, just thought I'd speak in terms he might understand. I apologize but...

This is too much fun.

Jono

TKEmz894 · #13 07-08-2002, 02:29 AM

Jono by dark alley do you mean the wrong end of Bourbon Street? The gay end? Wouldnt be caught dead there..... and by beat me up do you mean slap me with your purse or hit me with your spiked heel................Why dont you and the rest of the morons posting against me and Sig Chi Guy, go and cruise the mall or something, or better yet you can teach them ho to give BJs............

JonoBN41 · #14 07-08-2002, 02:38 AM

If anyone here is being silly, it's you. No dude, I don't carry a purse. Or a stick or a gun.

I can just beat the crap out of anyone who gets in my way. Usually it's not necessary.

Jono

greeklawgirl · #15 07-08-2002, 02:47 AM

OK, I've had it. I've just had it. I am so sick and tired of this small vocal minority of posters that start out by disagreeing with each other. Then it starts to get personal. Then suddenly their posts are out to offend anyone and everyone.

If you can't be an adult and discuss your differences in a civil and reasonable tone, then I don't think you need to be posting here. There's enough drama in our daily lives, do we need it here too?

And for God's sake, if you have a disagreement with someone, take it to PM.