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05-10-2002, 12:12 PM
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Words are never "nothing." Otherwise, folks would never get excited over anything said on this messge board. Heck, we wouldn't even bother communicating, because we wouldn't be saying anything.
Under that line of thinking, I could anything - white people are stupid and ugly, your mom is fat, I hate fraternities - and be "shocked" when there's a reaction. I mean, they're just words, they don't mean anything, right?
Wrong.
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05-10-2002, 12:20 PM
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You're not seeing my point. I'm saying that everyone is trying to make Gamma Chi and Phi Gamma Chi out to be "real" GLOs. That's why I said they are NOTHING (and that's technically the truth). I am not for Gamma Chi because I don't consider it to be "real" and as far as I can tell Phi Gamma Chi came about to poke some serious fun at those on this board who were actually taking Gamma Chi seriously. Anyways...go ahead and blast me again because it seems that you have nothing better to do. I, in the mean time, will go to class and try to be a productive person. Have a nice day Fuzzie Alum.
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05-10-2002, 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by FuzzieAlum
I may not know what ZLAM means in a ZTA's sig, or why Phi Mu new members are called "Phis," but we recognize these things. It isn't my business what they represent because they are standard phrases for the group.
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i use DZLAM much like ZTA's use ZLAM - and the basic meaning of it is Delta Zeta Love and Mine
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05-10-2002, 12:35 PM
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Gamma Chi was created, as I understand it, to be the next step in greek solidarity. Yes, that is a gross oversimplification, but it was one of the aspects I picked up from the spattering of posts I've read.
And now look at what has happened.
No offense to anyone on either side, but this squabble over GC has gotten, well absurd. We already have enough house infighting. Enough insults, and worries. No, I don't place the blame on GC, as it wasn't being forced on everyone(except in propaganda to anyone on these boards), but nor do I blame those that will be labed PGC for now, as I also belive they have a right to their opinion. But here is my suggestion.
PGC, let GC be. To be honest, I do not support GC, but I have let it be. It will not effect me in any noticable way if I do not worry myself over it.
GC, Though the ideals are good, I belive it is an unnessasary thing. But, I see no reason not to continue if you can get the support.
To the both of you, I'd say as members of GC/PGC, stop communicating. As members of said sides. Go back to being part of the GLO's you joined. I have an inate distrust and distaste for dual membership as it is. especially when you include such things as membership rituals, wearing letters, etc. But I shall not push that on others. Were this a war, and I was thrown in, to take sides, I would have to place myself over on the PGC side, just because of my belief on the premisie of GC and some of its planned things--rituals, etc.
Idealy, lets go back to our roots. We all have our houses. Mine being Sigma Nu. I am a Sigma Nu. I am also GREEK. Members of GC--perhaps try getting greekchat to unify greeks before making a small group of unified greeks, that some will take to be elite. Personaly, I'd also stay away from the ritual, letters, and "pledging." Members of PGC, if you don't like it, stay away from it. avoid the GC posts, and you won't have to worry or bother with it anymore.
GC can still attempt its full foundation as the first coed, internet, um. GLO.
And the rest of us can just be Greeks from our houses.
M.
Delta Theta Chapter of Sigma Nu
Knox College
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05-10-2002, 12:37 PM
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You're not seeing my point. I'm saying that everyone is trying to make Gamma Chi and Phi Gamma Chi out to be "real" GLOs. That's why I said they are NOTHING (and that's technically the truth). I am not for Gamma Chi because I don't consider it to be "real" and as far as I can tell Phi Gamma Chi came about to poke some serious fun at those on this board who were actually taking Gamma Chi seriously. Anyways...go ahead and blast me again because it seems that you have nothing better to do. I, in the mean time, will go to class and try to be a productive person. Have a nice day Fuzzie Alum.
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You're right, I didn't see your point, and since I apparently misconstrued it, I'm sorry.
I agree, at this point GX doesn't exist, even if at some point people were trying to make it so, and neither does FGX.
My point was merely that words can hurt ... that's all. Words are never just words, even if they're not serious. Posting what appears to be an insult in a sig is going to hurt people's feelings, and I do disagree with you as far as thinking that people are oversensitive if they are hurt by it. I doubt either one of us will convince the other, however.
I hope your day is as nice is mine is going to be. Because mine is a Friday and is going to be very, very nice!
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05-10-2002, 12:43 PM
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Since everyone has stated their case....
I'm finding these GX/FGX threads to be more and more useless.
Can we go back to discussing things that could potentially be beneficial? Like parties, graduations and things we want to be famous for?
This whole GX/FGX thing to someone who is not greek (and they do read these boards to see what we're like) would leave a bad taste in someone's mouth.
We are all ambassadors of our respective organizations, let's act like it.
LHT
Kevin
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05-10-2002, 02:06 PM
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ill start - thanks fuzzie for signing my guestbook on my website
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05-10-2002, 04:21 PM
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I'm more than ready for this to be over. I really don't care at this point whether GX continues or not. Do what you wish...but just do it somewhere else. That way people like myself won't have to resort to being rude and bitchy (because I'm normally not that way). Please Please Please someone delete these threads because we're going around in circles. It's really frustrating and I think that's why people are getting so upset with each other. Normally we're all happy nice people...let's go back to being that way. I'll agree not to post in here again. Hopefully some others will follow me. I know that this should honestly be the last of my worries because I've got a big fundraising event and finals to prepare for. Hope you all have a great weekend.
 Allison
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05-10-2002, 04:23 PM
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Fuzzie Alum...I also want to extend my apologies to you for being so rude. Hopefully all of this will go away soon. I hope you'll realize that I'm normally not a mean person. I think ktsnake was right in saying that we are all ambassadors for our respective organizations and I definitely wasn't acting like I should have been.
Allison
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05-10-2002, 04:36 PM
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Thanks to Sarah for her thanks.
Thanks to Kevin for reminding me why we're all here in a nice way.
Thanks to Allison for her apology.
Sorry to Allison and anyone I offended/got excited over any of this. It isn't worth it.
Like Allison, this will be my last post here.
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05-11-2002, 12:19 AM
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What the #%*@????
Wow, I must have been gone for longer that I thought. The last time I heard anything about Gamma Chi was when the idea was first brought about. And now I come back to the site and it seems like everyone is on drugs or something. No offense to anyone......I guess I just better explain why I see this whole thing as being completely pointless.
Ok, I thought that Gamma Chi was this cute little idea that someone came up with. When some people decided to go nuts and make it a real thing is beyond me. I thought that anyone who liked being a part of the Greek Chat community and wanted to spread the good aspects of greek life could put the letters on their signature. I thought this just represented a cute little thing that brought us all together on the issue of greek unity. In no WAY did I think anyone would be so crazy (for lack of a better word) to make it a REAL organization with initiation and pledge classes and stuff. Are you INSANE? Who cares if non greeks want to put the letters on thier signature! If they are promoting good will towards greeks I don't see the problem. Why do we need to make this thing real? I feel like I'm in some drug-induced halucination right now. Is this all a big joke and I think everyone is being serious because I haven't been on the boards for awhile? I really don't know what to think. This just seems so insane to me I don't even know how to put my thoughts into words right now.
Here is what I say should be done:
FORGET all this crap about bylaws, making requirements for who can say they're a "member," and basically ANYTHING that would make it like a REAL organization.
Let it go back to being a creative funny idea someone came up with. I'm sure the person that came up with it did not fathom making it a real operating organization. Why do we need to do that? WE DON'T.
I hope I haven't offended anyone in any way by what I've said; you'll have to excuse me for the fact that I haven't been on the boards in awhile. I am hoping that all this is some big joke, PLEASE someone PM me and tell me it is.
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05-11-2002, 01:48 AM
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lol kristi - welcome back  no, its not a hallucination - unfortunately.
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05-11-2002, 01:52 AM
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to kristiAZD...
Couldn't have said it better myself!!!
Holly
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05-11-2002, 08:56 AM
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excellent response
sometimes a fresh look says it all.
lol
mmcat
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