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Old 05-15-2002, 09:09 AM
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Re: Don't listen to these SELF-RIGHTEOUS posts

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by stoplook_listen
[B]Proffessor...don't pay any attention to all the self-righteous posts you are recieving. Most Prime example, alot of times when you marry someone, and have kids, they look worse than the day you first met. Maybe your wife is overweight and looks disgusting to you. You still love her and will stay with her, but imagine being "honest" with her and telling her how you feel. Nothing good will come out of it. You'll scar her. maybe she'll leave since you think she's ugly now. There are plenty of "honest" things we could confess to, but it just makes no sence. It will do more harm than good.


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Old 05-15-2002, 09:26 AM
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Proffessor...don't pay any attention to all the self-righteous posts you are recieving. Most people who are in your position wouldn't tell. You are NOT being selfish. Not telling has a chance for saving her embarrasment. Telling will DEFINITELY make her embarrassed.
She will benefit from CONTINING to be HAPPILY married to you. She will suffer from knowledge of your accident. This doesn't sound selfish to me. If you tell, there will be positive and negative outcomes. If you keep it to yourself, there will be positive and negative outcomes...do the math...which scenario is most positive? Everybody wants to front like they are so honest..thats B.S.! There are ALOT of things that go on in your head and thoughts you think that you'd NEVER tell somebody. Some of these thoughts would turn them off and make them wanna leave you...but I dont see people giving their mate the "choice" to stay or leave. Prime example, alot of times when you marry someone, and have kids, they look worse than the day you first met. Maybe your wife is overweight and looks disgusting to you. You still love her and will stay with her, but imagine being "honest" with her and telling her how you feel. Nothing good will come out of it. You'll scar her. maybe she'll leave since you think she's ugly now. There are plenty of "honest" things we could confess to, but it just makes no sence. It will do more harm than good.

Most of the people telling you to confess are women. the only reason they are telling you to confess is because they would hope their man would do that. (Women stick together). I'm willing to bet 9/10 of them were cheated on and are taking their bitterness out on you. Nobody who lives in the REAL WORLD would expect someone to confess to a wrong like that. How many people commit crimes and go to the police and confess? If someone stole your wallet or your car...you'd waste alot of time waitin for someone to come forth and confess. Comeone people...lets stop putting our issues off on Professor. Lets be REALISTIC hear..and lets stop being so self-righteous like we are honest 100% of the time. Wether she finds out now or later, its STILL gonna hurt, shes STILL gonna be embarrassed, and all of the other drama. Right now she's not feeling those emotions. It is possible she may NEVER find out and thus never have to feel those emotions. You all should stop being selfish in what your self-righteous self think should happen and focus on her. She's in bliss right now...happily married. Let her keep her happiness.
Okay, I am definitely through posting. But according to you, I guess we should all model ourselves after criminals ?
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Old 05-15-2002, 09:57 AM
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Among the BEST advice Profrssor is going to get on this issue:

PRAY ABOUT IT AND LET GOD LEAD YOUR THOUGHTS AND ACTIONS!
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Old 05-15-2002, 10:26 AM
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... then again, how many ladies answered my last question? Thus, I don't think any of us should condemn anybody. Wear the dang shoe...
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Old 05-15-2002, 11:09 AM
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... then again, how many ladies answered my last question? Thus, I don't think any of us should condemn anybody. Wear the dang shoe...
What question?
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Old 05-15-2002, 11:31 AM
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... then again, how many ladies answered my last question? Thus, I don't think any of us should condemn anybody. Wear the dang shoe...
Okay I reread the posts and I think I know your question. Yes I would tell. Never cheated so have had nothing like that to tell. Have I innocently flirted with people in the past? Yes, who hasn't. Have I told, yep sure have. Even though I was COMPLETELY sure that that flirting would not lead anywhere because I neither had feelings for nor was attracted to the person I was flirting with (usually just a good friend who knew there was no way in hell they would get with me). The last time I "flirted" with anyone was back when I was single in college or right after graduating and that was years ago. But in the past, I told because if anyone else might have overheard and thought I was "seriously" trying to get with someone else, then I preferred for the person I was with to hear it from me. Also, sometimes maybe I was just playing around but maybe it was going to far (only in words, never ever physical 'cause that ain't my style), then I would tell my man and sometimes that would make me realize how inappropriate I may have been behaving even though I truly was just playing and nothing else. It's about respecting another person, especially the person you claim to love.

One thing about me is that I am very honest with myself and others. There's no point in not being honest because honesty to me equals accepting reality.

Also, can't you tell how much I believe in not putting yourself in any potential inappropriate situations. Whenever I felt that something could potentially become miscontrued be it my fault or not, then I PERMANENTLY removed myself from the situation. That's what I believe you will do if you KNOW what's most important to you.

For me, if I am constantly reminding myself how important someone/thing is to me then I am less likely to risk losing it.

My grandparents always say "when you take something for granted you just might get it taken away for good."

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Old 05-15-2002, 11:51 AM
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... then again, how many ladies answered my last question? Thus, I don't think any of us should condemn anybody. Wear the dang shoe...
I gotta go with DST Love on this one. Goodness, everything in life is a CHOICE. There wouldn't BE a seduction if you weren't PRESENT to be subjected to it, would there? And I would go out on a limb and say that 95% of the time, you can pretty much tell if someone is attracted to you to the extent that they would seduce you, or "pounce on you," if given the oppurtunity. The other 5%, chalk it up to pure denial.

I just really abhor when people make poor desicions and try to blame it on everyone but themselves. Sure, there are always going to be mitigating factors, and you are not always going to be able to control everything around you. But unless there is some EXTREME situation - like if (s)he ties you up, strips you naked, and rapes you - there is no way that you can deny that you had a choice of whether to give in or not. Be a (WO)MAN, and admit you were dead wrong, and move on.

What about you TLAW. You seem to like playing devil's advocate...would you tell?
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Old 05-15-2002, 12:17 PM
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I'll first tell you all a story and then I'll close with my point.

I had a child with a man prior to marrying him. We married, five months into our marriage I received pictures from a woman that he'd had a child with. I didn't know about the woman nor did I know about the child. I've left alot of information out but those are the basic facts.

POINT: The bigger picture here Professor, is that you're about to make a COMMITTMENT for life. I beg of you to really analyze what it is besides the urges of your penis to put you in the situation where you've cheated on your fiance. It is my firm opinion that there is a problem if not within your relationship than with you. If you cannot adhere to a monogamous relationship now, what will be your foundation for being committed after marriage?

Outside of thinking about what you lack internally to make a lifetime commitment to a woman. I'd also urge you to think of the bigger issues to look at outside of your 'indiscretion'. I don't know how long ago this 'indiscretion' was; but,what if you impregnated this woman?

In my situation, I wasn't given the choice to make a decision about a man who'd not only cheated but had a child outside of our relationship. I accepted him and this child for two years. Unfortunately, this man was not able to take responsibility for his 'transgression'. He blamed the issues that were going on in our relationship rather than taking ownership for what he'd done (the act of cheating). I could have gotten past the cheating if he had taken ownership but what made it worst in our situation is that he began our marriage on a big fat lie.

So get over the 'Oh chit, I cheated'. Think about why you did it and what's the possible backwash from the act.

Just some food for thought!
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Old 05-15-2002, 02:00 PM
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Re: Don't listen to these SELF-RIGHTEOUS posts

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Proffessor...don't pay any attention to all the self-righteous posts you are recieving. Most people who are in your position wouldn't tell. You are NOT being selfish. Not telling has a chance for saving her embarrasment. Telling will DEFINITELY make her embarrassed.
She will benefit from CONTINING to be HAPPILY married to you. She will suffer from knowledge of your accident. This doesn't sound selfish to me. If you tell, there will be positive and negative outcomes. If you keep it to yourself, there will be positive and negative outcomes...do the math...which scenario is most positive? Everybody wants to front like they are so honest..thats B.S.! There are ALOT of things that go on in your head and thoughts you think that you'd NEVER tell somebody. Some of these thoughts would turn them off and make them wanna leave you...but I dont see people giving their mate the "choice" to stay or leave. Prime example, alot of times when you marry someone, and have kids, they look worse than the day you first met. Maybe your wife is overweight and looks disgusting to you. You still love her and will stay with her, but imagine being "honest" with her and telling her how you feel. Nothing good will come out of it. You'll scar her. maybe she'll leave since you think she's ugly now. There are plenty of "honest" things we could confess to, but it just makes no sence. It will do more harm than good.

Most of the people telling you to confess are women. the only reason they are telling you to confess is because they would hope their man would do that. (Women stick together). I'm willing to bet 9/10 of them were cheated on and are taking their bitterness out on you. Nobody who lives in the REAL WORLD would expect someone to confess to a wrong like that. How many people commit crimes and go to the police and confess? If someone stole your wallet or your car...you'd waste alot of time waitin for someone to come forth and confess. Comeone people...lets stop putting our issues off on Professor. Lets be REALISTIC hear..and lets stop being so self-righteous like we are honest 100% of the time. Wether she finds out now or later, its STILL gonna hurt, shes STILL gonna be embarrassed, and all of the other drama. Right now she's not feeling those emotions. It is possible she may NEVER find out and thus never have to feel those emotions. You all should stop being selfish in what your self-righteous self think should happen and focus on her. She's in bliss right now...happily married. Let her keep her happiness.
I already said that I have never cheated, nor have I been cheated on. Professor asked for opinions and we are giving them, just like you. If you don't like them then that says FAR more about what type of a BOY you are than anything.

And I would like to point out that the Professor is Thank GOD not married to this woman. They have more than enough time to WORK THIS OUT if that is possible. If he lies and covers this up then he diminishes those chances remarkably.

ALSO, AIDS is not the only STD out there. THere are many STD's that have no visible signs in women yet can be deadly and impact their ability to have children. There are also STD's that can be transmitted even when one is wearing protection. LORD HELP HIM if he has given the woman he claims to love a disease that destroys her capability to have children, or worse, because he will have done FAR MORE than simply destroy his relationship at that point.

Part of being a grown ass man or woman is FACING THE CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR ACTIONS. It is not an easy thing to do. When you mess up of course your first instinct is to deny, but if you are a mature adult then you realize that you can't live a good and moral/ethical life that way.

The Professor has always SAID that he is a good and moral man. Well now it is show and prove time. IF he doesn't tell than he has said MORE ABOUT HIS OWN CHARACTER THAN ANY WORDS THAT HE HAS EVER TYPED ON GC, POINT BLANK.

He asked for opinions and that is mine. Cheating is wrong and you need to fess up when you do it. I fail to see how it makes me self-righteous to give him the opinion he asked for. We are ALL human and make mistakes, but facing up them is part of life too.
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Old 05-15-2002, 02:44 PM
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*looking away from Librasoul* Darn, I was hoping to avoid that question...

LOL. On the real, I would probably tell, but then again, I have never been considered a conventional male. I believe I would lose her, but then, I'd deserve that, wouldn't I? I believe, like you, that the best way to avoid temptation is to do just that - avoid temptation. Remove yourself if possible. I try to tell my spouse everything. For example, I coach athletics, and some of the parents are single moms, who want help to put up a curtain, or fix fuse, etc. at their homes. Sometimes, these women can be very suggestive. Now, I am not going to cheat on my wife. Point blank. These women do not attract me in any way. Still, why tempt fate? Why should I, as a married male, go to a single woman's home in the evening, alone? Why tempt fate? Thus, I just politely decline.
My point is that there are too many people who do not respect matrimony. These men and women lurk in the shadows, crippling peoples marriages. Some women, I've heard, get a special rush if they can make a man cheat on his wife. Also, when I was younger, the older guys always said that the best type of hassle-free, casual sex was with a married woman. If you pause to think, you'd understand why. Heck, the vocal point of just about every other rap song is the declaration that "I sexed your wife" There is a perverse pleasure in making committed couple stray from their promises.
There is just too much temptation out there, and I believe it gets worse when you marry. Too many people hawking booty. Ladies, you could probably attest to the same. What I do say is that instead of attempting to cyber-kill anyone who admits to it, we should look at the bigger picture. I definitely understand a man not wanting to tell of his infidelities. This is why I refuse to condemn anyone on here. I admit, losing my wife is a big motivator to avoid cheating. When you meet that special person, you'd do anything to keep them. Thus, I keep my zipper up when I am away, and think of her when heiffers arrive. I love sports, and admire shutouts. This is one record I am definitely gonna keep perfect.
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Old 05-15-2002, 03:15 PM
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So much about relationships and the sensitive nature of the human body has been discussed here.

Professor, I sincerely hope that you yield to God in your decision. Don't be afraid to ask God for the necessary correction and direction. When He answers you (instead of a decision made on your own), you will definitely move forward in freedom and not in bondage. For the sin, without the request for sincere forgiveness from God through Jesus Christ, can forever entrap you in a stronghold. And I know that you don't want nor need that.

When you start marriage, you want it to be from a point of purity and love. There is but one who presents you with that opportunity and it is Christ Jesus. Invite Him into your situation, and your best path will be illuminated. Despite our opinions, and biblically principled interpretations of truth, there is only ONE judge...seek Him above all.
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When I see topics like this,,,I wonder was man really made to love just one person.
Anywhoo Professor I think you should tell, no matter when and how you do it it's gonna be rough. But at least you were honest with your (wife?) And let the chips fall where they may.
I also think if you guys decide to split up...try not get into another committed relationship. If you have kids just try to be a great dad. Committed relationships might not be your strong suit, just be a confirmed bachelor and do you.JMO
To the poster that said All women stick together...obviously not. He needed a woman to cheat with.

I sure hope that skeeza was worth your relationship

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... then again, how many ladies answered my last question? Thus, I don't think any of us should condemn anybody. Wear the dang shoe...
I think many of us HAVE answered the question! Why are we condemning somebody, just because we're giving our opinions? Did not Professor come on here and tell HIS BUSINESS to us and ask for feedback (whether directly, by asking a question, or indirectly, by beginning the thread in the first place)? I think most of us agree that only God can judge Professor, but that is not going to stop people from giving their opinions, which, again, WERE SOLICITED.

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Old 05-15-2002, 05:09 PM
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I think many of us HAVE answered the question! Why are we condemning somebody, just because we're giving our opinions? Did not Professor come on here and tell HIS BUSINESS to us and ask for feedback (whether directly, by asking a question, or indirectly, by beginning the thread in the first place)? I think most of us agree that only God can judge Professor, but that is not going to stop people from giving their opinions, which, again, WERE SOLICITED.
Thank you, Discogoddess. I don't think that anyone posted that Professor was going to hell with gasoline draws on. Nor did anyone post whether or not he was a good person.
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Old 05-15-2002, 05:24 PM
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... okay...
Calm down. The person I was referring to (in jest) knows, and we have been PMing back and forth. All this talk of gasoline draws is just mean! LOL!
Yes, many of you have answered the question. What I was actually thinking about were the different concepts of constitutes cheating. Care to bite, anyone?
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