Most Deranged Sorority Girl

[33girl]

So, if she would have used the King's English to basically say the same thing (i.e. that all her sisters were dull people who by their own admission needed alcohol to be sociable, who did a crappy job of participating in activities thereby giving the chapter a bad reputation, and that it's very important to make nice with what I assume is a popular fraternity) that would be totally OK, right?

Someone who commented on the DG Facebook page got it SPOT ON when she said that the main problem is not this email. It's a campus culture that measures the popularity of the sororities by who they "pair" with. I know that's true to some degree for all schools, but at some far more than others.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by 33girl

It's a campus culture that measures the popularity of the sororities by who they "pair" with. I know that's true to some degree for all schools, but at some far more than others.

The same goes for fraternities. In what world are you not judged by the company you keep? What's wrong with that?

Besides, that's not what this is about at all. This message wasn't about hanging out with Sigma Nu, this was about working with the fraternity you're paired with for Greek Week. I'm not sure how it is at UMD, but in other places, if not most other places, the selections are more-less random or based on the size of the house and not based upon the preference of the members.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Kevin

The same goes for fraternities. In what world are you not judged by the company you keep? What's wrong with that?

Besides, that's not what this is about at all. This message wasn't about hanging out with Sigma Nu, this was about working with the fraternity you're paired with for Greek Week. I'm not sure how it is at UMD, but in other places, if not most other places, the selections are more-less random or based on the size of the house and not based upon the preference of the members.

Our float/homecoming pairings were never random, you had to be asked. If it was a school where pairings WERE random, I doubt a group's actions during that period would carry as much weight as it apparently does at UMD. FWIW, it seemed to me more like Sigma Nu IS a popular fraternity there but the sisters are in a rut and would rather stick with the less flashy groups they are more comfortable with. That's how I took it anyway, someone at UMD could probably make it make more sense.

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Our float/homecoming pairings were never random, you had to be asked. If it was a school where pairings WERE random, I doubt a group's actions during that period would carry as much weight as it apparently does at UMD. FWIW, it seemed to me more like Sigma Nu IS a popular fraternity there but the sisters are in a rut and would rather stick with the less flashy groups they are more comfortable with. That's how I took it anyway, someone at UMD could probably make it make more sense.

Most pairings (homecoming, all sing, carnicus) were not random in my days as an active at Tennessee, but Greek Week was. Maryland could operate similarly.

[PiKA2001]

I thought the email was funny. It's crazy how GLO IHQ's have to step in for even the slightest online "PR disaster" these days because of FB and twitter... I'm sure they miss the old days where they only had to do damage control in extreme cases.

[ThetaPrincess24]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

I thought the email was funny. It's crazy how GLO IHQ's have to step in for even the slightest online "PR disaster" these days because of FB and twitter... I'm sure they miss the old days where they only had to do damage control in extreme cases.

As an advisor, I miss the good ole days of no Facebook and no Twitter!

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by ThetaPrincess24

As an advisor, I miss the good ole days of no Facebook and no Twitter!

As an advisor, I agree. As a mother, I have an irrational hope that social media will completely lose the cool factor by the time my child is a teenager. (It probably will, but will be replaced by something even worse, like instant mind readings posted in real time online.)

[Kevin]

[33girl]

She kinda looks like Justine Bateman and Lou Diamond Philips reproduced.

[ThetaPrincess24]

Originally Posted by 33girl

She kinda looks like Justine Bateman and Lou Diamond Philips reproduced.

LOL! I love how I can always count on you to make me laugh

[jazing]

Originally Posted by Kevin

someone frequents TFM ...

https://www.facebook.com/deltagamma/...51546640902450

DG with an official statement. Seems she resigned her membership.

[LaneSig]

I'm going to side with Deranged Sorority Girl on one point, and it goes both ways - sorority to fraternity/fraternity to sorority.

If you are teamed up with a group during an activity(Homecoming, Greek Week, Step Sing, etc), it is extremely rude of you to talk about all the things you do with another group of the same gender as your teammates. If you are in Omega Chi Delta fraternity, teamed up with Gamma Psi sorority, do not spend a lot of time talking about how much fun you have hanging out with Zeta Beta Zeta sorority. Likewise, Gamma Psi members should not be telling Omega Chi members all about how they love hanging out at the Kappa Tau Gamma fraternity house.

It's rude to the members of the group you are teamed with. Plain and simple.

It's one thing if the other org comes up in natural conversation: "Yeah, we had a drop in at the KT house last Wednesday. What about y'all?" "Oh, the ZBZs came over for a pledge swap that night." or, "You're an engineering major? So's my boyfriend. Do you know Rusty? He's a KT." "Oh, yeah, he's cool. Isn't his sister president of the ZBZs?"

But, to stand in front of members of other groups and talk about how you wish you were at another house? Rude.

You might be teamed with the "lowest tier" chapter on campus. Guess what, especially among fraternities that seem to ebb and flow on the popularity scale, that chapter may end up being one of the most popular in a few years and the members may have long memories.

[DeltaBetaBaby]

Originally Posted by LaneSig

I'm going to side with Deranged Sorority Girl on one point, and it goes both ways - sorority to fraternity/fraternity to sorority.

If you are teamed up with a group during an activity(Homecoming, Greek Week, Step Sing, etc), it is extremely rude of you to talk about all the things you do with another group of the same gender as your teammates. If you are in Omega Chi Delta fraternity, teamed up with Gamma Psi sorority, do not spend a lot of time talking about how much fun you have hanging out with Zeta Beta Zeta sorority. Likewise, Gamma Psi members should not be telling Omega Chi members all about how they love hanging out at the Kappa Tau Gamma fraternity house.

It's rude to the members of the group you are teamed with. Plain and simple.

It's one thing if the other org comes up in natural conversation: "Yeah, we had a drop in at the KT house last Wednesday. What about y'all?" "Oh, the ZBZs came over for a pledge swap that night." or, "You're an engineering major? So's my boyfriend. Do you know Rusty? He's a KT." "Oh, yeah, he's cool. Isn't his sister president of the ZBZs?"

But, to stand in front of members of other groups and talk about how you wish you were at another house? Rude.

You might be teamed with the "lowest tier" chapter on campus. Guess what, especially among fraternities that seem to ebb and flow on the popularity scale, that chapter may end up being one of the most popular in a few years and the members may have long memories.

I agree. This is no different from, like, being at a party with one group of friends and telling them you are leaving to go to a better party.

[amIblue?]

Originally Posted by LaneSig

I'm going to side with Deranged Sorority Girl on one point, and it goes both ways - sorority to fraternity/fraternity to sorority.

If you are teamed up with a group during an activity(Homecoming, Greek Week, Step Sing, etc), it is extremely rude of you to talk about all the things you do with another group of the same gender as your teammates. If you are in Omega Chi Delta fraternity, teamed up with Gamma Psi sorority, do not spend a lot of time talking about how much fun you have hanging out with Zeta Beta Zeta sorority. Likewise, Gamma Psi members should not be telling Omega Chi members all about how they love hanging out at the Kappa Tau Gamma fraternity house.

It's rude to the members of the group you are teamed with. Plain and simple.

It's one thing if the other org comes up in natural conversation: "Yeah, we had a drop in at the KT house last Wednesday. What about y'all?" "Oh, the ZBZs came over for a pledge swap that night." or, "You're an engineering major? So's my boyfriend. Do you know Rusty? He's a KT." "Oh, yeah, he's cool. Isn't his sister president of the ZBZs?"

But, to stand in front of members of other groups and talk about how you wish you were at another house? Rude.

You might be teamed with the "lowest tier" chapter on campus. Guess what, especially among fraternities that seem to ebb and flow on the popularity scale, that chapter may end up being one of the most popular in a few years and the members may have long memories.

First, love the Greek references!

Second, I agree with the thought of encouraging participation and not being rude to the group your group is paired with, regardless of tier. You will never regret using good manners and treating others with kindness. However, being rude in order to encourage said participation and manners, probably not the best way to go.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by amIblue?

However, being rude in order to encourage said participation and manners, probably not the best way to go.

I keep repeating this for whatever reason, but for all anyone here knows, she was trying to be funny, and if so, high five.