Protests In Wisconsin - Page 6

Drolefille · #1 02-26-2011, 05:33 PM

http://redantliberationarmy.wordpres...state-capitol/

The police have joined the protest. They refused to kick out the protesters and are staying to protest with them.

ETA: Police officers have both participated and policed throughout the protests, however the officers were ordered to clear the protesters out by 4am and they have now refused.
WPPA Press release

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HEAD OF POLICE UNION ASKS GOVERNOR TO KEEP CAPITOL OPEN AND ANNOUNCES LAW ENFORCEMENT SLEEPOVER

MADISON—Following action by lawmakers to approve a rule change that clears the way for closing down the State Capitol and ejecting the people protesting
Governor Walker’s bill to curtail union activity, the head of the Wisconsin Professional Police Association called on the governor today to keep the capitol
building open and allow the peaceful protesters to remain.

“The law enforcement officers from across the state that have been working at the Capitol and have been very impressed with how peaceful everyone has
been,” said WPPA Executive Director Jim Palmer. “As has been reported in the media, the protesters are cleaning up after themselves and have not caused any problems. The fact of that matter is that Wisconsin’s law enforcement community opposes Governor Walker’s effort to eliminate most union activity in this state, and we implore him to not do anything to increase the risk to officers and the public. The costs of providing security can never outweigh those associated with a conflict.”

Palmer also announced that, beginning tonight, the WPPA is formally requesting its members from across the state to come to the Capitol to sleep amongst the throngs of other union supporters. “Law enforcement officers know the difference between right and wrong, and Governor Walker’s attempt to eliminate the collective voice of Wisconsin’s devoted public employees is wrong,” continued Palmer. “That is why we have stood with our fellow employees each day and why we will be sleeping among them tonight.”

KSUViolet06 · #2 03-01-2011, 02:36 PM

Rally in Ohio capital today.

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content...1&cmpid=aunews

KSUViolet06 · #3 03-02-2011, 03:36 PM

A Senate Committee (Ohio) voted 7-5 this morning to send Senate Bill 5, the collective bargaining bill, to the full Senate for a likely vote this afternoon.

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content...z.html?sid=101

Kappamd · #4 03-02-2011, 07:31 PM

^^^The bill has since passed in the Senate and now moves to the House where it also expected to pass.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=13041121

AOEforme · #5 03-09-2011, 10:33 PM

Proof it was never about balancing a budget:
http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/03/09/wisconsin.budget/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1

Bill passes without Senate Democrats present because ALL fiscal matters are removed from the bill.

Disgusting. In addition to collective barganing, Wisconsin's college programs were slashed, recycling programs (started by a Republican) dismantled, and a Early Release Work program (that was designed to reduce prison costs) is gone.

In addition, insurance companies are no longer required to cover contraceptives.

Drolefille · #6 03-09-2011, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by AOEforme

Proof it was never about balancing a budget:
http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/03/09/wisconsin.budget/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1

Bill passes without Senate Democrats present because ALL fiscal matters are removed from the bill.

Disgusting. In addition to collective barganing, Wisconsin's college programs were slashed, recycling programs (started by a Republican) dismantled, and a Early Release Work program (that was designed to reduce prison costs) is gone.

In addition, insurance companies are no longer required to cover contraceptives.

Work Release getting cut is a shame. It's a great motivator, and those guys get hired very quickly. I'm sure it's a 'Prisoners are taking our jobs'/'Tough on crime' bullshit.

Also, does the Healthcare bill require coverage of contraceptives? Fuck Walker.

AGDee · #7 03-09-2011, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

Also, does the Healthcare bill require coverage of contraceptives? Fuck Walker.

That's up for interpretation apparently.

http://womenslawproject.wordpress.co...h-care-reform/

Michigan's new governor isn't doing so great either:
The Michigan League for Human Services this week cited a new analysis by the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy that found households earning $17,000 or less would pay 1.1 percent more of their income in new taxes, while those making $355,000 or more would pay 1/10th of 1 percent more under Snyder's proposals. A recent league analysis also found that Snyder's plan will cut business taxes by 86 percent while increasing individual income taxes 31 percent.

The governor, a former Gateway computer executive who campaigned as "one tough nerd," acknowledged that many of his policies have angered a wide spectrum of Michigan residents, including many who voted for him. He said his goal wasn't to get a lot of people mad at him but to fundamentally change Michigan's culture.

Much longer article at: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...,6789708.story

Drolefille · #8 03-09-2011, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AGDee

That's up for interpretation apparently.

http://womenslawproject.wordpress.co...h-care-reform/

*sigh*

Dear insurance companies, cover contraceptives and voluntary sterilization procedures and you avoid the cost of paying for a pregnancy, something I believe is required coverage in the new bill. Why are you so dumb?

No love,
Women

AOEforme · #9 03-09-2011, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

Also, does the Healthcare bill require coverage of contraceptives? Fuck Walker.

The part that confuses me is that Wisconsin is required to pay for the health care of any child who lives in the state, in addition to their education and for meal programs and assistance if the parent(s) cannot afford to.

Why would you remove a third-party program to reduce the costs above if you're interest in saving money?

Drolefille · #10 03-09-2011, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AOEforme

The part that confuses me is that Wisconsin is required to pay for the health care of any child who lives in the state, in addition to their education and for meal programs and assistance if the parent(s) cannot afford to.

Why would you remove a third-party program to reduce the costs above if you're interest in saving money?

Well, they'd like to remove those programs too, I bet. But I suspect there's some "OMG CONTRACEPTION IS MURDER" along with some "DO NOT REGULATE BUSINESS" plus the theme of this year it seems: "HEY GUYZ, LETS VOTE ON ANYTHING THAT TARGETS WOMEN. MAYBE THEY'LL GO BACK TO TEH KITCHEN AND MAKE US SAMMICHS."

AOEforme · #11 03-09-2011, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

Well, they'd like to remove those programs too, I bet. But I suspect there's some "OMG CONTRACEPTION IS MURDER" along with some "DO NOT REGULATE BUSINESS" plus the theme of this year it seems: "HEY GUYZ, LETS VOTE ON ANYTHING THAT TARGETS WOMEN. MAYBE THEY'LL GO BACK TO TEH KITCHEN AND MAKE US SAMMICHS."

Seriously.

Also, Walker already tried to cut the Medicaid program for these children. This was in his original proposal. When someone pointed out that this is highly illegal, he admitted he hadn't really checked on that.

Psi U MC Vito · #12 03-10-2011, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by AOEforme

Proof it was never about balancing a budget:
http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/03/09/wisconsin.budget/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1

Bill passes without Senate Democrats present because ALL fiscal matters are removed from the bill.

Disgusting. In addition to collective barganing, Wisconsin's college programs were slashed, recycling programs (started by a Republican) dismantled, and a Early Release Work program (that was designed to reduce prison costs) is gone.

In addition, insurance companies are no longer required to cover contraceptives.

But he is still pretending it was about the budget.

KSUViolet06 · #13 03-09-2011, 11:05 PM

I like how it's all "we're not covering your contraceptives, but we're not paying to help feed the kids you can't afford but had anyway because you didn't have access to said contraceptives."

Drolefille · #14 03-09-2011, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by AOEforme

Seriously.

Also, Walker already tried to cut the Medicaid program for these children. This was in his original proposal. When someone pointed out that this is highly illegal, he admitted he hadn't really checked on that.

He failed to graduate college, and has been accused of plagiarism IIRC. I don't think research was one of the things he valued.

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Originally Posted by KSUViolet06

I like how it's all "we're not covering your contraceptives, but we're not paying to help feed the kids you can't afford but had anyway because you didn't have access to said contraceptives."

If you'd just keep your legs closed, you slut, it wouldn't be a problem.

knight_shadow · #15 03-09-2011, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

If you'd just keep your legs closed, you slut, it wouldn't be a problem.

I forgot which thread I was in. I saw that response and the pink text and let out a "What, WTF!?"

/carry on