Duke coed's sexual history "senior thesis" goes viral

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

No. I do not care who she has sex with. I care that she invaded the privacy of these guys and used them.

OK - this is where I'm getting crossed up . . . just to be clear, when you say "used [the guys]" what do you mean? Used them sexually, or used them for some other purpose?

[agzg]

The thing for me is that it's not really fair. If a guy did this, he'd be an asshole and (probably) the subject of law suits. This girl does this, she's a slut AND an asshole and (probably) the subject of law suits.

She's an idiot and an asshole. Nothing more.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

OK - this is where I'm getting crossed up . . . just to be clear, when you say "used [the guys]" what do you mean? Used them sexually, or used them for some other purpose?

Used them as subjects in her thesis, which she shared with others, using their real names. If I hook up with someone and they publicize the fact with my name, photo, and other personal details you better believe I'll be pissed.

I don't give a shit who is having sex with who (and feel it's TMI to share it)...if it's just sex. This wasn't.

Originally Posted by agzg

The thing for me is that it's not really fair. If a guy did this, he'd be an asshole and (probably) the subject of law suits. This girl does this, she's a slut AND an asshole and (probably) the subject of law suits.

She's an idiot and an asshole. Nothing more.

I haven't actually seen a whole lot of slut talk in regards to this.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

Personally, I don't care who she has sex with or how many partners she has...it's the fact that she used these men as subjects that bothers me.

If I read this correctly, this was a "fake" thesis -- nothing she turned in for credit. Maybe this will fall more under "cyberbullying" [good call on that thread, DrPhil]?

Originally Posted by KSig RC

OK - this is where I'm getting crossed up . . . just to be clear, when you say "used [the guys]" what do you mean? Used them sexually, or used them for some other purpose?

I read it as this: she's a grown woman who can screw anyone she wants. When she endangers folks' future job prospects/relationships/etc, it becomes a problem.

Originally Posted by agzg

The thing for me is that it's not really fair. If a guy did this, he'd be an asshole and (probably) the subject of law suits. This girl does this, she's a slut AND an asshole and (probably) the subject of law suits.

She's an idiot and an asshole. Nothing more.

There's one other title that I'd give her.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by agzg

The thing for me is that it's not really fair. If a guy did this, he'd be an asshole and (probably) the subject of law suits.

Yes, my first post spoke to gender hypocrisy. However, I would consider those men to be low self-esteem whores, and even moreso the case if they didn't use a condom.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

If I read this correctly, this was a "fake" thesis -- nothing she turned in for credit. Maybe this will fall more under "cyberbullying" [good call on that thread, DrPhil]?



I read it as this: she's a grown woman who can screw anyone she wants. When she endangers folks' future job prospects/relationships/etc, it becomes a problem.



There's one other title that I'd give her.

Exactly.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by Alumiyum

I haven't actually seen a whole lot of slut talk in regards to this.

The first five pages of this thread throw around the words slut and whore a ridiculous amount.

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

There's one other title that I'd give her.

Unemployed?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by agzg

The first five pages of this thread throw around the words slut and whore a ridiculous amount.

Where?

I think you're exaggerating. LOL.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by agzg

Unemployed?

Nah. I'd say it, but I'd be contributing to slut shaming

[agzg]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Where?

I think you're exaggerating. LOL.

Well went back through and multi-quoted all the instances (besides my own, because I already knew about those) of the times the words "slut" or "whore" showed up in a post, and it was mostly k_s.

So, I amend my statement.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by knight_shadow

Nah. I'd say it, but I'd be contributing to slut shaming

But, if it were a guy, would you be so quit to jump on the "she's a slut" bandwagon? That's my point - it's reprehensible, what she did, male or female, but has nothing to do with her being a slut, and everything to do with her being a douchecanoe.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by agzg

Well went back through and multi-quoted all the instances (besides my own, because I already knew about those) of the times the words "slut" or "whore" showed up in a post, and it was mostly k_s.

So, I amend my statement.

Some of this is tongue-in-cheek (no pun intended).

She may or may not be whore. What we do know is people wouldn't know or give a shit either way if she hadn't created a Fucket List and sent it to her friends.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by agzg

But, if it were a guy, would you be so quit to jump on the "she's a slut" bandwagon? That's my point - it's reprehensible, what she did, male or female, but has nothing to do with her being a slut, and everything to do with her being a douchecanoe.

Maybe he would just as I would. Society, in general, wouldn't.

Also, if this had been a man some people would call him a sexist and misogynist pig. They aren't claiming sexism for this instance because men are not considered a gender minority. Yet, these men were victims in this instance.

Some call that power dynamics and context whereas others call that hypocrisy.

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Some of this is tongue-in-cheek (no pun intended).

She may or may not be whore. What we do know is people wouldn't know or give a shit either way if she hadn't created a Fucket List and sent it to her friends.

Bottom line.

[knight_shadow]

Originally Posted by agzg

But, if it were a guy, would you be so quit to jump on the "she's a slut" bandwagon? That's my point - it's reprehensible, what she did, male or female, but has nothing to do with her being a slut, and everything to do with her being a douchecanoe.

Yes, I would. How many times have I referred to other guys on this site (and, hell, how many times have I been referred to) as sluts?

I brought it up jokingly at first, but after reading a little about her "project," I kind of stand by my statement. I won't be yelling "burn this whore at the stake!" anytime soon, but drunken escapades with randoms = slut (or at least slut tendencies, male or female).

Originally Posted by DrPhil

Also, if this had been a man some people would call him a sexist and misogynist pig. They aren't claiming sexism for this instance because men are not considered a gender minority. Yet, these men were victims in this instance.

Yep.