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10-20-2009, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by BadCat25
With respect to b, universities have a valid interest in the greek system and how it is run because to the extent the greek system contributes to a toxic social enviornment, the classic example is Vanderbilt, the university has a big interest in trying to change that because it does the university no good to have a large number of pissed off students, some of whom will just transfer out and bring down the graduation rate and no elite university wants that.
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And as I said...if the university interferes for good (or their interpretation of good) they will also end up interfering for bad. You can't have it both ways.
Honestly, the schools know that Panhellenic runs rush. These ARE NPC rules, made by alumnae with years and years of rush experience behind them, not capricious and arbitrary things that a bunch of college aged girls dreamed up while sitting around swilling beer - as some papers seem to imply. If the school doesn't want to deal with NPC's rules, then they need to kick the nationals off campus and go with an all-local system that they can manipulate however they want. Oh but wait - those locals wouldn't have the insurance behind them that the nationals do. Again, you simply cannot have it both ways.
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10-20-2009, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 33girl
If the school doesn't want to deal with NPC's rules, then they need to kick the nationals off campus and go with an all-local system that they can manipulate however they want. Oh but wait - those locals wouldn't have the insurance behind them that the nationals do. Again, you simply cannot have it both ways.
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Let me first clarify that while our school newspaper and drama-loving student population may want to interfere and change recruitment, the school administration definitely doesn't. In my dealings, including weekly meetings with the Dean of the College, the head of Greek Letter Organizations, etc. they are nothing but supportive of how we do things. In fact, they are so pre-NPC that only national sororities are allowed to come to campus (our three locals can remain -- they are grandfathered in -- but no new locals).
However, in response to the insurance issue, our local groups are all insured through the college. The college has even extended that as an option to our national groups in risk management discussions with national HQs (when NHQ says "we would love to let you do X, but our insurance carrier won't allow it", the Office of Greek Letter Orgs tends to counter by offering to insure us).
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10-20-2009, 05:16 PM
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Let me first clarify that while our school newspaper and drama-loving student population may want to interfere and change recruitment, the school administration definitely doesn't. In my dealings, including weekly meetings with the Dean of the College, the head of Greek Letter Organizations, etc. they are nothing but supportive of how we do things. In fact, they are so pre-NPC that only national sororities are allowed to come to campus (our three locals can remain -- they are grandfathered in -- but no new locals).
However, in response to the insurance issue, our local groups are all insured through the college. The college has even extended that as an option to our national groups in risk management discussions with national HQs (when NHQ says "we would love to let you do X, but our insurance carrier won't allow it", the Office of Greek Letter Orgs tends to counter by offering to insure us).
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I figured all that. I was responding more to the Bitter Betties who think that the school should somehow wring all the emotional ups and downs from rush/Greek life until it resembles a playdate between two highly medicated 1 year olds.
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10-21-2009, 09:16 AM
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The biggest problem IMO is the campus, PNMs, and especially the editorial writers need some education in how Recruitment actually works. NPC has formulated the Recruitment policies and guidelines based on decades of Recruitments on campuses across the country. Everything is specifically designed to make it as fair as possible for all PNMs and Chapters. Plus, they need to understand is that ICS is simply a computerized version of the hand matching that used to be done to make things easier and much quicker.
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07-20-2010, 11:53 PM
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You know, if I wrote a book about NPC rush just with my quotes from GC, I'd be more famous than the skank who wrote Pledged. I'd be like..... that skank who said "bitches need to maximize their options." Does skank have a male counterpart? I think so, and it's called "Senusret I."
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07-21-2010, 12:40 AM
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You know, if I wrote a book about NPC rush just with my quotes from GC, I'd be more famous than the skank who wrote Pledged. I'd be like..... that skank who said "bitches need to maximize their options." Does skank have a male counterpart? I think so, and it's called "Senusret I."
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I called my ex a skunk at times. Maybe skank comes from there?
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