Dual Memberships

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by lillady85

If you know for a fact that someone is in a NPHC sorority and has now pledged an NPC sorority...should you say something?

Personally, I say no. Yes that person is breaking the rules, but going out of your way to make her miserable is petty. If you're asked, be honest. And if it's your chapter/GLO by all means say something. But let her get herself busted so she has no one to blame but herself and karma.

The NPHC members here may feel differently, but there you go.

[mccoyred]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

Personally, I say no. Yes that person is breaking the rules, but going out of your way to make her miserable is petty. If you're asked, be honest. And if it's your chapter/GLO by all means say something. But let her get herself busted so she has no one to blame but herself and karma.

The NPHC members here may feel differently, but there you go.

Frankly, as long as she doesn't go around trying to reap the benefits of her NPHC sorority (repping, networking, sisterhood, official activities, etc.) then I say good riddance...

Although I would rather she give back her letters or get expelled but...

[lillady85]

Well, it's pretty obvious she is still representing the NPHC sorority. It's on her FB, in her name, her profile picture yet...she's in a picture with a NPC pledge class. I'll just keep my mouth shut. She'll be found out at some point.

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

..... no founding a local and then switching teams.

I have the challenge that call on the issue of local orgs. I don't think that founding or being a member of a local GLO inherently bars you from membership in a more established national social org.

I would think depending on the degree the local was a full-fledged (locally) well-known established fraternity as opposed to it being an unorganized or unincorporated Greek letter club, whether or not your affiliation or association with such an org would disqualify you as a member of an NIC/NPC/NPHC organization would have to be on a case-by-case basis.

While I understand by general principle that such affiliation would disqualify you from joining a larger org, due to the lesser-known and less established nature of such orgs, I wouldn't be so quick to say that such affiliation will shut you out of another org, especially if the likelihood of its existence and being "found out about" falls under the radar.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

..(at least my interpretation of my org's rules) is that you can't join if you were in ANY fraternity that was social/general.

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

I don't think that founding or being a member of a local GLO inherently bars you from membership in a more established national social org.

Alpha Phi Alpha is quite clear on this. Your rules may vary.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by lillady85

If you know for a fact that someone is in a NPHC sorority and has now pledged an NPC sorority...should you say something?

Yes.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

I have the challenge that call on the issue of local orgs. I don't think that founding or being a member of a local GLO inherently bars you from membership in a more established national social org.

I would think depending on the degree the local was a full-fledged (locally) well-known established fraternity as opposed to it being an unorganized or unincorporated Greek letter club, whether or not your affiliation or association with such an org would disqualify you as a member of an NIC/NPC/NPHC organization would have to be on a case-by-case basis.

While I understand by general principle that such affiliation would disqualify you from joining a larger org, due to the lesser-known and less established nature of such orgs, I wouldn't be so quick to say that such affiliation will shut you out of another org, especially if the likelihood of its existence and being "found out about" falls under the radar.

What's the "debate" on this for?

Everyone refer to their own organization's policies and be done with it.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

What's the "debate" on this for?

Guilty conscience???

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

What's the "debate" on this for?

'Cause I like to play devil's advocate. You of all people should know this by now.

Everyone refer to their own organization's policies and be done with it.

My point is that some organizations may not have dual membership policies that addresses local orgs, and due to the smaller nature of the orgs, what constitutes a full-fledged local fraternity from a mere club with a Greek letter name is largely a judgment call, hence requiring such a determination to be made as they arise on a case-by-case basis.

This is one gray area that an org's written policies really don't fully address because of the rarety of the issue arising.

It's not quite that easy to "be done with it".

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

'Cause I like to play devil's advocate.

No need. There are rules that don't require speculation or debate.

If some orgs do NOT have local orgs in their dual membership policies, it isn't against the rules. Cut and dry.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

Guilty conscience???

On the part of his organization, yes.

[Senusret I]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

On the part of his organization, yes.

DAMN.

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

If some orgs do NOT have local orgs in their dual membership policies, it isn't against the rules. Cut and dry.

So to sum it all up:

Local org and NIC/NPC/NPHC org: Depends on the orgs involved. Check with the respective orgs' membership policies.

I love it when there's a constructive collaboration

[KAPital PHINUst]

Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

On the part of his organization, yes.

In your dreams, DELTA!!

Folks taking that crimson and cream concept on a whole nother level.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by KAPital PHINUst

Local org and NIC/NPC/NPHC org: Depends on the orgs involved. Check with the respective orgs' membership policies.

Did you need your "devil's advocacy" to reach this obvious conclusion?