BGLO and Other GLO Relations on YOUR Campus?

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by gee_ess

No, the groups do not socialize together but they have different interests (as you mentioned) That doesn't make it a negative situation and that is what your comments implied.

So the groups don't communicate with each other, do programs beyond the step show, etc.?

Sometimes campuses don't have joint NPHC-IFC-NPC interactions but instead there are specific organizations whose members have bonded personally and based on common interests.

While NPHC organizations were founded to uplift the minority communities, our interests do not end there. Our national and local initiatives and other issues are shared with other organizations, which is why organizations who wish to do so can connect. I find that people do not connect for personal reasons and because they are stuck on comfort levels and assumptions. And also NPHC fraternities and sororities tend to do programs with each other so it takes a change of ideas to get other types of collaborations to be accepted.

[gee_ess]

I didn't mean to imply they don't communicate, but they do not have joint functions/mixers. There may be other activities in which they work together other than the step show that I am not aware of, but the functions were what I was refering to. I do think that NPC and NPHC get along well at Arkansas, and will try to find out if there are any specific instances when they work together on events, etc.

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by gee_ess

The issue, Elephant Walk, and I am going to step into this because you are a fellow razorback and I want to help you, is that you always present your opinions and arguments as if they are the last, final word on the subject.
Your comments rarely leave room for the option of something different occurring on your campus or within your chapter when common sense says that your experience is not the only way.
I happen to know that the relations between the GLO's and BGLO's are positive (you mentioned the step show, but totally ignored explaining to others online what a big event that is, how it involves the entire Greek community and goes a long way in providing opportunities for the groups to cooperate and interact.) No, the groups do not socialize together but they have different interests (as you mentioned) That doesn't make it a negative situation and that is what your comments implied.
You need to remember who and what you are representing. You tend to pigeonhole and stereotype so many topics that I am often frustrated with your narrow viewpoints that are stated as the absolute law because I KNOW that is not true on your campus.
Yes, you are entitled to your viewpoints, but I just want you to represent yourself (and the U of A) better. Sorry for giving you a "mom lecture, but it was time.

That's completely wrong.

I usually qualify it by saying "in my experience", if you'll read. I don't pretend like what I say is hard and fast the truth. It's my experience with the subject, as is everyone elses on the subject. My comments didn't imply anything of a negative experience. In fact, the only interaction I mentioned was positive. Otherwise, there is no interaction, so it's neutral.

Please read for once.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by SECdomination

But when a thread turns to Black v White, no one can do the same.

No one?

And this isn't supposed to be about "black v white." This is about assocations between different types of organizations.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by SECdomination

By no one, I meant "no one that I know of, besides myself".

Really? That sucks.

Originally Posted by SECdomination

These different types of organizations are historically, based on race. Maybe I jumped the gun, but race would have come up soon, the way the discussion was going.

You are correct that race is embedded in this discussion but it doesn't have to be "black v white." And the extent that race is actually discussed for this topic depends on the discussees. Comments like "different type of music" and "ridiculous race power thing" are comments that can hold a negative connotation--particularly the "race power thing" comment. EW did a great job of doing what he accuses others of doing: highlighting race when it doesn't have to be the determining factor in the discussion.

[gee_ess]

Please read for once

You must be kidding...

I give up.

[fantASTic]

Seriously, guys. This conversation has been had about eight times. Do we need to do it again?

I'll save you about fifteen pages of drama and give you the final conclusion before this thing finally dies: "Our organizations are different and oriented differently, and we do not need to hang out all the time to have positive relations and coexist on campus."

Goodnight.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by fantASTic

Do we need to do it again?

Yes.

Goodnight.

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by fantASTic

Seriously, guys. This conversation has been had about eight times. Do we need to do it again?

I'll save you about fifteen pages of drama and give you the final conclusion before this thing finally dies: "Our organizations are different and oriented differently, and we do not need to hang out all the time to have positive relations and coexist on campus."

Goodnight.

Thank you.

That's exactly what I said, but caught shit for it.

Chaos is obsessed with race and that's why these types of threads always end up in 15 pages worth of trash.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

Thank you.

That's exactly what I said, but caught shit for it.

Chaos is obsessed with race and that's why these types of threads always end up in 15 pages worth of trash.

And you wonder why you "catch shit"

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

And you wonder why you "catch shit"

heh

He's too dumb to be true.

[rhoyaltempest]

Wow. I just can't believe it's 2008 and some of us still believe that all "insert race" people listen to the same music, do the same things, and don't have anything in common with other people. Wow. Says a lot about how far we haven't come.

[DSTCHAOS]

I agree.

Yet WE'RE the ones who can't get beyond race.

And, once again, "symbolic race talk" is okay as long as racial and ethnic minorities aren't the ones initiating it or responding to it. God forbid we do that because we don't want to be called "obsessed with race" and told that we're "too emotional and ridiculous to discuss the topic rationally and more objectively."

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by rhoyaltempest

Wow. I just can't believe it's 2008 and some of us still believe that all "insert race" people listen to the same music, do the same things, and don't have anything in common with other people. Wow. Says a lot about how far we haven't come.

Not really. People are comfortable about being around people that are like them...

I know several guys in Omega Psi Phi among other black fraternities (mostly A Phi A otherwise), but we would never hang out on the weekends because we don't have any commonalities. Perhaps they are there....but the superficial things which get people to be friends aren't there.

Just because we have Greek letters does not mean we need to hang out with ANY other group but our own. I joined my house, not a Greek system.

[1908Revelations]

I'm not going to read this entire thread as I have read others on this subject. We (NPHC) do events with NPC and IFC on our campus from time to time. DO those events have importance over others....NO! We do it out of attempts at unity among GLOs, but AKA business trumps all of the other stuff.

Omega Phi Phi recently held a toga party with an IFC.
We (AKA) had done events with AOII and AGD.
There may be others that I am not aware of, but like I said AKA business comes first.