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11-16-2004, 01:23 AM
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Re: this is my first time posting in this forum...
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Originally posted by TRUBLUBU2
but i read this and was moved to respond....
why are we persecuting tau alumna for her viewpoints/opinions?
i thought that was one of the much touted benefits of western society: we're supposed to all be so free, and open minded and modern, that people could hold original, varying beliefs (AND NOT JUST PARROT THE MINDSET THAT'S CURRENTLY IN VOGUE), state their opinions, and rest assured that they won't get brow-beaten or ridiculed...hmmm--what happened here?
tau alumna, i may not agree with your beliefs, but i respect your right to voice your opinion, because that is how you feel--and i also respect you for having the GUMPTION and COURAGE to express it.
if this is how you feel, so be it--it doesn't bother me in the least--i'm still the same person i was when i read it...
i have my views as well, and i would expect you to extend the same respect for mine...at least that is what my idea of "free speech" is all about.
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I think it's fine for her to express the opinion that she'd like to move to another country in order to get away from the politics of the one she's in, although I personally doubt she means it. However, I think what most people were objecting to was the correlation of liberal with "having no values," which is both incorrect and verging on an attack.
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11-16-2004, 01:26 AM
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Originally posted by kappaloo
As for people wondering why people are getting huffy about this: yes, she has the right to say what she wants, and we have the right to tell her our opinion of her opinion. This thread would be twice the size if she said the same thing about the USA.
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thanks much, and i'd defend her right to say WHATEVER SHE WANTS TO ABOUT THE USA AS WELL--just like i can say whatever i want about it...
tell me--is bashing tau alumna's views going to change her mind, is she going to suddenly repent? cry and promise not to ever say anything that the GROUP didn't agree with? i certainly hope not...one should NEVER cave in to conformity and peer pressure ::::mist of irony::::
it's HER opinion, and she's entitled to it. as long as she doesn't go out and perform any negative actions related to her opinion upon any human beings...she's just throwing her words into the wind...like we all do on a daily basis...not a problem
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11-16-2004, 01:35 AM
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appears that many of Canada's politicians are gay -
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There's that other dude...I think his name is Scott Brison?
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Originally posted by sigmagrrl
What about Sean Hayes??? aka Jack MacFarland on "Will and Grace"...He has never said whether or not he is and I can't figure it out!!!
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Oh honey...private life, schmivate life. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is a duck!
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But he (Steven Cajocaru) seems so stereotypically gay on TV......
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Really? I hadn't noticed.... (LOL) </sarcasm>
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Originally posted by Peaches-n-Cream
I think you're taking about Eric McCormack who plays Will. He has a wife and child.
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Eric McCormack is straight, but I just wanted to put in that "having a wife and child" does not a person straight make.
My orthodontist came out in his 50s. Wife and kids? You betcha.
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11-16-2004, 01:58 AM
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Originally posted by CutiePie2000
Eric McCormack is straight, but I just wanted to put in that "having a wife and child" does not a person straight make.
My orthodontist came out in his 50s. Wife and kids? You betcha.
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I hadn't thought about it like that. All I have to do is look at the recently resigned Gov. McGreevy of NJ and his lovely wife and children to see this also.
I guess I should have typed: "Eric McCormack is straight." Not that there's anything wrong with it.
Last edited by Peaches-n-Cream; 11-16-2004 at 09:38 AM.
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11-16-2004, 03:58 AM
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I think Eric McCormack is straight. But I heard Sean is gay.
The only reason Steven Cojocaru is listed as debated is b/c the gays don't want to claim him. The man looks like an alien. It's scary.
I never knew that Tony Geary was questionable. That puts a whole new spin on "Luke & Laura".
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11-16-2004, 08:08 AM
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Originally posted by ADqtPiMel
I definitely don't claim to be an expert on Canadian political parties, but from what I know, the Liberal party values universal health care, free education for everyone, and helping the environment.
I'd be interested to hear how you think that these aren't traditional values.
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I don't want to get into the whole Liberal debate...because while they do value our universal health care system, I have to agree with Taualumna that the Liberals (NOT liberals) are not good for this country. ETA: But it's not because they want to turn this country into the Netherlands.
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11-16-2004, 11:32 AM
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Hey Canada -
I'll trade you Jay Leno for this Rick Mercer gay dude if you throw in the decriminalized pot .
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11-16-2004, 12:14 PM
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I think Eric McCormack is straight.
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Yes, he is.
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11-16-2004, 05:48 PM
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Originally posted by Lady Pi Phi
I don't want to get into the whole Liberal debate...because while they do value our universal health care system, I have to agree with Taualumna that the Liberals (NOT liberals) are not good for this country. ETA: But it's not because they want to turn this country into the Netherlands.
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I absolutely respect your opinions on it. The thing I took offense to was the blanket statement that liberal = no morals.
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11-16-2004, 07:14 PM
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Are Bert and Ernie really Gay?
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11-16-2004, 10:00 PM
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Originally posted by ADqtPiMel
I absolutely respect your opinions on it. The thing I took offense to was the blanket statement that liberal = no morals.
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I understand and I completely agree...I didn't like the whole blanket statement either. Hell I'm liberal myself (but NOT a Liberal  )
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11-16-2004, 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by GeoffZ
The only reason Steven Cojocaru is listed as debated is b/c the gays don't want to claim him. The man looks like an alien. It's scary.
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Three words: Jar Jar Binks.
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11-16-2004, 11:30 PM
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Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi
If you move to the US go to Texas- they need more bible-beaters like you.
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Just because you've been ignored this whole thread, i'll throw you a bone.
Yes, we would gladly welcome her to Texas, but only if you left for Canada. They need more socialists like you.
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11-18-2004, 02:27 AM
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What about Velma from "Scooby Doo"??? I mean really...that turtleneck sweater screams "alternative lifestyle!! Does she also wear Birkenstocks and go to Lillith Fair??? Maybe she plays a little K.D. Lang or Melissa Etheridge or Tracy Chapman???
Peppermint Patty and Marcie-definitely a "butch-femme" thing going on there!
Schroeder from "Peanuts"??? Can he BE any Gayer??? I mean, Lucy is practically begging him, and he ignores her!!!
The point is... WHY DO PEOPLE CARE??? I just find it so amazing that so many people in this country want to know about another person's sex life, but will not let them have the same freedoms that they enjoy!  What this list actually shows is that homosexuality transcends all social, ethnic, religious, and any other boundary that you can name. I could care less where Rick Mercer sticks "Little Ricky"-If I lived in Canada all I would care about is if he was doing a good job. If not-defeat his butt, no matter if he is Gay, Bi, Trans, Questioning or whatever!!
***stepping off of soapbox now***
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11-18-2004, 03:14 AM
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Originally posted by phikappapsiman
What this list actually shows is that homosexuality transcends all social, ethnic, religious, and any other boundary that you can name.
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Mmmhmm - That's right!
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