Equal opportunity racism at UVa

[SigmaChiGuy]

If you want to call it lack of empathy, sobeit, however, something that happened hundreds of years ago, happened hundreds of years ago - thats just it. I'd let it go. We live in America, the greatest place on earth - where we are all equal. Quit digging up shit from the past - let it go.

Its kind of like the Southerners hating the Northerners because they were on 'the other side of the line' during the civil war. They're idiots too. Let it go, put down your Dukes of Hazard Flag and let it go.

Originally posted by valkyrie
If you were the grandchild of a slave who was beaten and raped by her "master" I can damn well bet you wouldn't be saying that history can kiss your ass. If you think people just get over hundreds of years of abuse you're incredibly lacking in empathy.

[FHwku]

Originally posted by SigmaChiGuy
Let it go, put down your Dukes of Hazard Flag and let it go.

don't drag the Duke boys into this.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by Tom Earp
Please give your whormones a rest R. U show your jockey shorts like a flag

The problem with your analogies is that they are always taken out of context as usual. God, leave well alone enough alone instead of makeing more of an ass out of yourself.

White/Black/Yellow/Red/ just what the Hell does it matter in the small part of life when We as Greeks are trying to Grow when so many are trying to tear us down.

Self importance gets very underwhelming when We are all gone.

munchkin, I would expect more from you than this! WOW The N word, used in a context, not calling anyone that word!

God it is so sad from some who profess to be so smart.

Dear Mr. Racist Lambda Chi Alpha,

it is not up to you to tell me whether I, a Jewish person, am allowed to be upset when you say Jewish girls are sluts.

It is not up to you to tell black folks whether they are allowed to be upset when you say blacks should go back to Africa or drop the "n bomb".

It is not up to you to be beyond ignorant, crass, and plain insulting and expect other ethnic groups to just accept how you describe them and then try and defend yourself by trying to talk about a context.

The fact was that even though you were ignorant and shaming your fraternity we weren't bringing up your awful deeds and words because YOU HAD SHUT YOUR MOUTH. Now it seems you are ignoring your brothers and moderators on Greekchat and continuing the harassment.

-Rudey
--Fricking banjo playing, red truck driving, white sheet wearing, cross burning, tobacco chewing bigots

[stardusttwin]

Originally posted by Lovely_gurl
That is just it. The action is NOT equal because the two races are still NOT treated "equally" in our society. (And unless YOU are an African American person in our society, you do not have the perspective or right to state otherwise.) While some may argue that the environment has improved considerably for minorities in our country, we still have much further to go. And even when/if we get there, because of the deep historically negative and ugly roots of black opression (not to mention the conotation of "blackface") in our country's history, a Halloween costume that has a white person painting his face black will NEVER be funny. It will only be threatening and/or obscenely insensitive to anyone who is non-white.

Think about the movie "WHITE CHICKS" that was released this summer....stupid, but dang funny!....because it was COMEDY! And, as several others have pointed out, it's not the "race in power" making fun of a race in the minority. Rather, it's the opposite....no harm done at all....nothing said or done hurts or conjurs up negative images of past oppression because we were NOT oppressed in this way...it's just comedic.

This movie, if reversed, would NEVER be viewed with humor...and you can call it "double standard" if you like....but the "double standard" is because there is nothing negative or inherently threatening to "whiteface"....not in the way that a white guy painted up in "blackface" evokes hurt, anger, resentment, and conjurs deep wounded memories of a horrible, fearful time in our nation for generations of an entire race...and not "100 years ago" either....but a mere 35 years ago in this country...widespread laws that separated the races....(and most would argue still exist on a non-legistlated, informal level today)... And this adverse culture and climate was CREATED and is often still perpetuated by white America's "superiority" and dominance over an entire race of people...so if in fact, there is a double standard, we have earned it and must accept that with a little less defensiveness. Those of us who were born white Americans have never had to "walk a mile" in the shoes of those who have been subjected to this kind of hate and blind prejudice by people who had/have the power to deprive us of our wants and desires. So, in my opinion, until we are in that position, like it or not, we don't have the right to cry "racism".

Well said!

[Munchkin03]

Originally posted by Lovely_gurl

This movie, if reversed, would NEVER be viewed with humor...and you can call it "double standard" if you like....but the "double standard" is because there is nothing negative or inherently threatening to "whiteface"....not in the way that a white guy painted up in "blackface" evokes hurt, anger, resentment, and conjurs deep wounded memories of a horrible, fearful time in our nation for generations of an entire race...

What about "Soul Man" with C. Thomas Howell?

That was damned funny.

[Rudey]

Why is everyone making this so complex?

White people: Are you honestly upset and hurt and threatened when once in a blue moon a black guy paints his face white? If so nobody can argue with your feelings, but really I doubt many of you who are fighting so hard have those feelings.

Black people: Are you upset and hurt and threatened when white people have done blackface for so long and continue to do it?

-Rudey
--Really simple.

Personally, no it doesn't affend me, I probably would've died laughing had I seen that guy. My argument has been and will continue to be that racism is not just whites against blacks or whites againt everyone else who isn't white. It goes both ways. I do feel that the whiteface and blackface are equal though..........I dont' see how it is different for a black guy to paint his face white and a white guy to paint his face black.

Originally posted by Rudey
-Rudey
--Fricking banjo playing, red truck driving, white sheet wearing, cross burning, tobacco chewing bigots

What if my truck is maroon though? Am i still lumped in with the rest of those ignorant rednecks?

KS 361

[FHwku]

Originally posted by Rudey
--Fricking banjo playing, red truck driving, white sheet wearing, cross burning, tobacco chewing bigots

leave banjos, trucks, and smokeless tobacco out of this.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by ADPiZXalum
Personally, no it doesn't affend me, I probably would've died laughing had I seen that guy. My argument has been and will continue to be that racism is not just whites against blacks or whites againt everyone else who isn't white. It goes both ways. I do feel that the whiteface and blackface are equal though..........I dont' see how it is different for a black guy to paint his face white and a white guy to paint his face black.

You don't see it? That's OK.

But the problem is telling another person how to feel. I doubt even one person in this thread is upset about this.

-Rudey

[Little E]

oh boy there's nothing like GCers getting upset.

Originally posted by Rudey
You don't see it? That's OK.

But the problem is telling another person how to feel. I doubt even one person in this thread is upset about this.

-Rudey

I see how it could make someone mad or offend them.

[sugar and spice]

Originally posted by SigmaChiGuy
History can kiss my ass. Hypocritical is hypocritical - yesterday, today, tomorrow. If someone who is black and wears whiteface, it is just as bad as some white kid wearing blackface. I don't care what my buddies grand-daddy did to your grand-daddy. That was then, this is now.

And we wonder why Greeks have the reputation they do.


Once again, GC, thank you for proving to me just where Greek stereotypes come from.

[Little E]

Soooooo much anger here on GC.

I concur with Sugar and Spice. Greeks are known for how we act, and the stereotypes seem alive and well. God (or G'd if you prefer) Bless America.

They say that some day the whole world is gonna look like Puerto Rico, so we need to get over it now and be nice to each other.

[jubilance1922]

Originally posted by ADPiZXalum
Personally, no it doesn't affend me, I probably would've died laughing had I seen that guy. My argument has been and will continue to be that racism is not just whites against blacks or whites againt everyone else who isn't white. It goes both ways. I do feel that the whiteface and blackface are equal though..........I dont' see how it is different for a black guy to paint his face white and a white guy to paint his face black.

Sorry to break this to you, but its impossible for a minority group to be racist against the majority group, based upon the definition of racism. Racism is a system of oppression and discrimination against a minority group by the majority. Last time I checked, African Americans weren't the minority.

The fact remains that people want to whine and cry when they are held accountable for their actions. Its one thing to mock an entire group of people, especially when that behavior has deep roots in this country, and its something else to have a Halloween costume that doesn't have anything to do about anything.

Personally, I think it was tacky and bad taste for him to decide to be "white" for Halloween. But racism? Nope, and if you don't like it, you can go cry a river for all I care.