Disgusted - Page 5

Coramoor · #61 04-10-2006, 03:23 PM

Sounds to me it was a lack of communication in joint force expeditions.

I can't blame the pilot for dropping a bomb on an area that is known to be hostile with live fire in view. On top of that, it seems to me that the leak may have been done just to try and detract from those who are responsible by making it seem this pilot is totally at fault.

Again, I don't know the full story, and probably never will. However I do know that we have problems because our current system has soldiers using their commander's intent to accomplish a mission and sometimes they end up in the wrong place at the wrong time. When that happens, the situation is ripe for fratricide.

PiKA2001 · #62 04-10-2006, 04:06 PM

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Originally posted by IowaStatePhiPsi
Rob- did you really expect the Americans on here to take kindly to advice for America to play by the rules they expect everyone else to follow?

I feel for ya man- though I dont think anyone I know was ever killed by "'friendly' fire"- it's a sad tragedy.

Air National Guard... the same smart people as George Dumbya Bush...

I love it when the communists come out to play. I am in the ANG and would go to war with an ANG unit over an active duty unit any day of the week. I am 24 years old and one of the youngest guys in my unit. Most of the people who serve in the ANG have served time active duty, are generally older and more experienced than active duty AF. I feel more secure working with individual's with 15-25 years of military experience than some 19 year old kid in the active duty AF.

Coramoor · #63 04-10-2006, 07:55 PM

To be fair, unless you are an officer in the AF....you will likely be a paper pusher or a mechanic. The pilots do the fighting and it takes quite a while to be qualified for that.

PiKA2001 · #64 04-10-2006, 09:34 PM

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Originally posted by Coramoor
To be fair, unless you are an officer in the AF....you will likely be a paper pusher or a mechanic. The pilots do the fighting and it takes quite a while to be qualified for that.

OK!

You obviously have no clue about the AF, the types of jobs that are in the AF, or the fact that the officers are major paper pushers.

We can take it to the next level and say that a CEO or a lawyer is just a paper pusher.

And also, you say that only the pilots do the fighting?? Well then how come enlisted airmen keep coming home in body bags?

RACooper · #65 04-10-2006, 10:42 PM

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Originally posted by Coramoor
[B]Sounds to me it was a lack of communication in joint force expeditions.

I can't blame the pilot for dropping a bomb on an area that is known to be hostile with live fire in view. On top of that, it seems to me that the leak may have been done just to try and detract from those who are responsible by making it seem this pilot is totally at fault.

Might be a valid excuse if that was the case... but dropping bombs over a live-fire exercise ranged used by all members of the multinational force (US forces used the range the night before), and within 2km of the base does make the guy look fully in the wrong...

Now to play devil's advocate - even if the fire was hostile, don't yah think the base/airport might have been calling in a enemdy contact/hostile fire report(s) - and notifying everyone in the area (and C&C)? The fact that this pilot observed the fire for some time, and that the AWAC had to check to see if there was any report of recent/on-going enemy fire that close to a protected (and still full lit) base should have been a big clue for the pilot.