LB's/Dating/Frat Hoes

[Little32]

love is...knowing that love is not a slore.
You know you're the slore. That's why love won't eff with you.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by starang21

love is a slore.

"love" is a highway and i wanna riiiiiide it, all night long

[Little32]

lol.

[Professor]

i was a young whore once and have enjoyed many of same females as lb and friends. you do some dumb crazy stuff in life but you live, you learn, and you grow. now, i'm old and just like i would hear old folk say, "you eventually come in." my point is one should enjoy life but always be safe regardless if you are in a committed relationship or sleeping with every xyz on the yard.

Originally Posted by PrettySqueaky

This is the worst pick-up line I heard of the year 2000.

I was at a club when I met this guy. Come to find out we know the same people. Get this he was my bestfriend's Line Brother. I didn't want to come out and say I'm seeing your LB on the DL(down low.) So I said we were real good friends. So his reply: "Ya know LB's share everything." I was like "Ummmmmkay I'll make sure I tell him that tonight." Thinking that comment was lewd enough. He said something alone the lines, "Well it'll be your word against mine. So you might as well let me cut. And if he already hit, like I said LB's share everything." (replace hit and cut with F!@*.)


Second story. We were at this Step Show. Before I had a baby I was like 105-110 after I had him I was like 130. I was talking to this guy and he was like blah blah...kicking a little game. So I whispered to him don't you know me...I'm blah blah friend. He said oh well he's over here. And I was like, "Hi you doing?" gave him hug and what not. And his boy was just going on and on. And I was like "you're cute and all, but you don't remember me?" He's like "nah." Now blah blah getting hot. Like I know she ain't flirting were my bruh!!! I was like "oh I'm the mother of your Godson." His response, "Oh shyt 'bout time you started eating."

Just wanted to post something kind of funny. Question have ya'll ran into any situations with LB's concerning girls? Or do you have a set rule? I mean do LB's really share everything? What do you feel about frat-hoes?

This is off-key but related. I have a child by an Alpha and I told him out of respect for him I wouldn't date another one (that's going to be hard to do. Hello, are you an Alpha? just kidding.) He doesn't really have a comment on that, but he thinks it's strange and besides he knows I'm not trying to date anyone else right now.
But it's like I know of too many Alpha hoes and I don't want to be classified as one.

(My bestfriend thinks it's b-s and I shouldn't classify people based on that. I say b-s because he's an Alpha. And he knows I adore him to death, but he's still an Alpha.)

[sigmadiva]

Thanks Starang21, now I can never again walk into a Hallmark store with a straight face.

[smc112]

Originally Posted by Professor

i was a young whore once and have enjoyed many of same females as lb and friends. you do some dumb crazy stuff in life but you live, you learn, and you grow. now, i'm old and just like i would hear old folk say, "you eventually come in." my point is one should enjoy life but always be safe regardless if you are in a committed relationship or sleeping with every xyz on the yard.

That is just gross! I'm glad you got your life together now. I see why they sometimes call men dogs. That is what dogs do. They hunch on anything that moves, and sometimes they hunch on other male dogs. (Hmm.. if you get my drift!) Anyway, what is wrong with getting your own woman? I don't understand the reasoning behind fraternity members sleeping with the same woman. I guess half of the time the guys that join these fraternities are sometimes the lame guys with no game. They have to use their fraternity letters to get the attention of women. That has never really attracted me with guys.

I have dated a lot of guys that weren't a part of a fraternity. The reason why is because they had more to talk about than their fraternity or their frat brothers. That irritated me having to sit up and listen to a guy talk about his fraternity or wanted to hang out with his line brothers all the time. It makes me think that the guy isn't a well-rounded or balanced individual. Anyway, just my opinion.

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by smc112

That is just gross! I'm glad you got your life together now. I see why they sometimes call men dogs. That is what dogs do. They hunch on anything that moves, and sometimes they hunch on other male dogs. (Hmm.. if you get my drift!) Anyway, what is wrong with getting your own woman? I don't understand the reasoning behind fraternity members sleeping with the same woman. I guess half of the time the guys that join these fraternities are sometimes the lame guys with no game. They have to use their fraternity letters to get the attention of women. That has never really attracted me with guys.

I have dated a lot of guys that weren't a part of a fraternity. The reason why is because they had more to talk about than their fraternity or their frat brothers. That irritated me having to sit up and listen to a guy talk about his fraternity or wanted to hang out with his line brothers all the time. It makes me think that the guy isn't a well-rounded or balanced individual. Anyway, just my opinion.

I agree. It is nasty and personally I don't think there's any excuse for it. I think a lot of times the women that get passed around from joker to joker, they often make the mistake of believing that because they are so attracted to someone, they will inevitably fall into a relationship with that person, regardless of how inappropriate that relationship may be.

A lot of jokers join fraternities to get women. The sad thing about it is these groupies are attracted to these same insecure men who also have low self esteem. Anytime a joker feels he has to have more than one partner, there's something wrong. And then to join an organization to assist with this problem makes it an even bigger problem.

I also think some women bring it on themselves to attract the "dogs" by the way they dress. To me, presentation is everything when it comes to your body. One of the concepts that I impress upon women is that they teach men how to treat them. She can either teach a man to treat her with respect or treat her with disrespect. What I mean by this, is she can do this by her modest dress or her immodest attire. The kind of advertising she presents, are the kind of customers she's going to attract. If she dresses like a hoe, she'll attract hoes. If she dresses like a respectable lady, then she'll attract respectable men.

[Little32]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

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I also think some women bring it on themselves to attract the "dogs" by the way they dress. To me, presentation is everything when it comes to your body. One of the concepts that I impress upon women is that they teach men how to treat them. She can either teach a man to treat her with respect or treat her with disrespect. What I mean by this, is she can do this by her modest dress or her immodest attire. The kind of advertising she presents, are the kind of customers she's going to attract. If she dresses like a hoe, she'll attract hoes. If she dresses like a respectable lady, then she'll attract respectable men.

Why do you feel it your responsibility to impress this idea upon women? What are you doing to teach other men about how to treat women respectfully regardless of what they wear; quiet as its kept, men treating women poorly is as much a reflection on the man (because he is making choices there too) as it is on the woman. Men should know better too. Are you doing your part to impress those lessons on the men you know?

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by Little32

Why do you feel it your responsibility to impress this idea upon women? What are you doing to teach other men about how to treat women respectfully regardless of what they wear; quiet as its kept, men treating women poorly is as much a reflection on the man (because he is making choices there too) as it is on the woman. Men should know better too. Are you doing your part to impress those lessons on the men you know?

Why do I feel it's my responsibility? Actually I don't feel it is. I have friends and associates, men and women who ask of my opinion on certain issues, so when they ask, I give.

Also, if you read some of my previous posts on this thread, I have opinions on the men as well.

[Professor]

men only treat women like bitches and hoes only because women allow us. women have the real power!!!!

Originally Posted by Little32

Why do you feel it your responsibility to impress this idea upon women? What are you doing to teach other men about how to treat women respectfully regardless of what they wear; quiet as its kept, men treating women poorly is as much a reflection on the man (because he is making choices there too) as it is on the woman. Men should know better too. Are you doing your part to impress those lessons on the men you know?

[smc112]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

I also think some women bring it on themselves to attract the "dogs" by the way they dress. To me, presentation is everything when it comes to your body. One of the concepts that I impress upon women is that they teach men how to treat them. She can either teach a man to treat her with respect or treat her with disrespect. What I mean by this, is she can do this by her modest dress or her immodest attire. The kind of advertising she presents, are the kind of customers she's going to attract. If she dresses like a hoe, she'll attract hoes. If she dresses like a respectable lady, then she'll attract respectable men.

Actually, men can sometimes approach women in a disrespectful manner when they are fully clothed. If being disrespectful is in the nature of the man, they will act that way towards women regardless of how they are dressed. There have been times in the past, and I'm sure this has happened to some other women, where I have been approached in a disrespectful way when I was covered from head to toes in clothes. (Blue jeans and a T-shirt) LOL So if it is in the character of the man, they will be disrespectful. What I'm trying to say is that men who haven't been raised to respect women, will have a problem doing it regardless. I find that a lot of guys who are disrespectful sometimes come from a single parent household. They don't have a father figure at home to raise them in the right direction or how to treat a lady. Things such as holding doors for a woman or speaking politely are things that they lack. I'm not saying that all guys who come from a single parent household lack home training. There are some guys that have had other male relatives or someone in the community that reached out to them and showed them positive male qualities. If there aren't any positive reinforcements coming into these young men's lives, they will find other paths to find out how to conduct themselves. Such as BET or these rappers. Part of the problem is this rap music, when there are songs that constantly degrade women. Some of these men do not value women because their mind has been brainwashed to think that women are h*es, gold diggers, etc., because of this music. This rap music is of the devil and it's creeping into the African American community and taking the black men down the wrong path. It is interesting that the white artists don't have music that degrades their women. Anyway, that's another topic.

Prettyboy, I do understand where you are coming from with how a woman should dress. Women don't have to scream "I'm Sexy" with their clothes all the time. Women can be just as sexy, fully dressed! I have worn modest clothes to a party and have had just as many guys approach me (in a positive manner) than the women who were unclad. Many times women get caught up in the styles of clothing. Like this season, short is in with the fashion magazines! Yet, women have to walk a thin line because they shouldn't want people to have the wrong impression of them. Yet, you can't always judge a book by it's cover. The lady just simply might like fashion, and she might not be trying to draw negative attention. I think sometimes guys might read too much into it. I do feel that women should dress age appropiately. That irritates me to see a woman in her mid to late 30's or 40's dressing like a 20 year old or teenager. Stay out of the Junior's department please!

[I.A.S.K.]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

I also think some women bring it on themselves to attract the "dogs" by the way they dress. To me, presentation is everything when it comes to your body. One of the concepts that I impress upon women is that they teach men how to treat them. If she dresses like a respectable lady, then she'll attract respectable men.

I have to say that I understand fully that as a woman I may attract unwanted attention by dressing in an inappropriate manner, but like others have said its more about how that particular guy is.

It has been my experience that if you have halfway decent looks men will make comments no matter what you're wearing.
I've gone out in mens sweatpants and oversized t-shirts and had guys come at me. One time a group of us were standing at the bus stop waiting on the bus to go somewhere (I think we were coming back from a restaurant) we were all wearing jeans and a top and a car full of guys rode by and as they passed they yelled something lewd and we ignored them. The guys came back and then got out of the car and came over to where we were. One of them approached me and I let him know I wasn't interested and asked him to go away. he proceeded to call me a b#$%h and sulk. He wated until the bus came and then as I was turned around and in line for the bus he tried to grab my butt. Mind you I was wearing a pair of jeans and a long sleeve shirt (it was winter) and sneakers nothing fancy and nothing over the top and guys were still being disrespectful.

I also feel like I should not have to base how I dress on what some man will or wont say or do. I dont feel like I should have to change what I'm going to wear because some men are ignorant.

Women do not teach men how to treat them by what they wear women teach men how to treat them by how they raise their sons. I cannot make a man respect me by wearing a business suit or a skirt that is 3/4 an inch above my ankles. If a man is disrespectful then that is what he will be toward me.

Its a shame that the majority of the blame for disrespectful incidents is placed on women. It is a common misconception that a woman can control how she is approached by a man with her choice of outfit. It is not true! The only person who can control how a man talks to or acts toward a woman is that man. Saying that a woman can control that is like saying a woman can aviod sexual assault by dressing properly. She cannot.

It is about men having manners and control of themselves. Dont get me wrong I dont like to see women 1/2 naked and i dont think its right, but i also dont think a man should be given a pass because she is dressed poorly.

Truth be told it is not the way a woman dresses it is a combination of economic status (which will determine where she lives) and the guy who is approaching her. If you live in a middle middle class to upper middle class and above area then you are less likely to run into guys who will say and do disrespectful things. There are fools everywhere so you wont be exempt, but you also wont be hassled all the time.

As a young woman with what I consider to be good looks and a nice body I am constantly aware of the possible consequences of my actions. When considering what to wear (or even if i will go) to a party/club I am cognizant of the fact that it will be late when I am headed home and I live in an urban area where rape/assault/sexual assault/grave danger is a possibility. Since on campus we are not allowed to carry any type of weapon(poket knife) or protection (pepper spray/Mace) I have to be aware of the fact that I may be in danger and that I can only protect myself using my body and physical force which may not be enough. I have learned that depending on the police is a waste of time and campus police is a JOKE! It is really unfair and unnecessary that as young women we cant get dressed in what we want or like (even if it is a freakum dress to wear to a party to feel sexy) because we might be "putting ourselves in danger" and the danger we face is a bunch of irresponsible and ignorant men who cannot control themselves and who are not held accountable for their actions.
if an incident occurs the response is "she shouldnt have been wearing xyz in the 1st place she knew what she was doin when she put that on" instead of people saying this man needs to be taught how to keep his hands/body parts/words to himself. In our communities lately it seems that we want to blame women instead of forcing men to be responsible. If I am out with MEN that I know and trust and some guy approaches me the wrong way I know that my peeps will let him know its not cool to act like that and that they will protect me. the problem is that there are not many men in my age group (18-25). Most of the guys around are boys trying to become men. There is nothing that is expected from these guys. When my parents were growing up (and how my mom raised me) the expectation was that a man would not disrespect a woman and he would also not stand by and let a woman be disrespected. I've heard guys tell stories about how they sat and watched women get brutally beaten by men and i really cant get with it. it makes me sick and honestly it makes them less of a man to me. If the standard was that a man was not allowed to be disrespectful and women were not allowed to dress like strippers then all would be right in the community (ha!) but alas this isnt a perfect world!

[Professor]

sounds like you have had some bad experiences. your point goes to show that not only men but women can also do some crazy things. as for me, i have always been liked by the most desirable ladies on the yard. i was not lame and had my pick of dates and relationships. however, i realize that may not be the case for everyone .

Originally Posted by smc112

That is just gross! I'm glad you got your life together now. I see why they sometimes call men dogs. That is what dogs do. They hunch on anything that moves, and sometimes they hunch on other male dogs. (Hmm.. if you get my drift!) Anyway, what is wrong with getting your own woman? I don't understand the reasoning behind fraternity members sleeping with the same woman. I guess half of the time the guys that join these fraternities are sometimes the lame guys with no game. They have to use their fraternity letters to get the attention of women. That has never really attracted me with guys.

I have dated a lot of guys that weren't a part of a fraternity. The reason why is because they had more to talk about than their fraternity or their frat brothers. That irritated me having to sit up and listen to a guy talk about his fraternity or wanted to hang out with his line brothers all the time. It makes me think that the guy isn't a well-rounded or balanced individual. Anyway, just my opinion.

[smc112]

Originally Posted by Professor

your point goes to show that not only men but women can also do some crazy things.

Huh? Explain please. I don't understand where you get the notion that my statement "goes to show that not only men but women can do some crazy things."

[Professor]

Your comments were as follows

"Anyway, what is wrong with getting your own woman? I don't understand the reasoning behind fraternity members sleeping with the same woman."

My point being that women are also stupid for sleeping with us. I guess they are just as "lame," have low self esteem, are without father figures and so on - lol

Originally Posted by smc112

Huh? Explain please. I don't understand where you get the notion that my statement "goes to show that not only men but women can do some crazy things."