Gamma Chi - yes or no?

[newbie]

Honestly? #4.

[newbie]

Originally posted by TigerGirl52
I initially thought the idea was cute but never in a million years thought that people would actually take it seriously and try to start something. I just don't see the point...we've got GreekChat and that should be good enough. So my vote goes to #4. Oh...and blast me if you will...it doesn't bother me one way or the other.



Allison

My thoughts exactly, Allie! I had volunteered to hold a position, but never did I think people would try to make it official...

[mmcat]

i think the concept is good...but...
mmcat

[damasa]

Originally posted by aephi alum


BrianMUDU - yep, that's how I read it too. A little extreme IMO, but there it is.

And we all know what they say about assumptions....

Furthermore, a little extreme? Maybe the entire concept of making greekchat an internet coed fraternity was a little extreme...maybe not...yet, we are all entitled to our opinions and views, may they be extreme or not.

BUT, now that you can consider something to be "a little extreme" maybe consider how some people can consider that the concept of "gamma chi" is "a little extreme." Catch my drift here? See where I'm going? Ponder those thoughts for a moment or two....

[HeavenslilAngel]

Thanks aephi. I just thought it was odd how Gamma Chi just disappeared off my list.

[DGPhoney]

Originally posted by KRXAlum
DGPhoney...
I can see that you might be concerned that people who never wanted Gamma Chi to happen in the first place are putting #4 to alter the outcome, but after looking through all the posts on this thread, it looks like people who WERE all for this to happen are also saying #4... Myself included.
When I first heard about this idea, I thought it was great, but it seems like too many cooks are messing with the pot and now it has become unorganized and confusing. I think it is because there was no understanding of how to get ideas across in an organized manner. The end result, chaos. It seems more people are frustrated than happy with the situation. And it seems Greek Chat is becoming a more hostile place, and I don't think anyone here wants that.
If people go ahead with Gamma Chi, I wish you ALL the luck. But with the MSN site down and some of the Yahoo! Boards not having postings for days, it seems like people are jumping ship on the idea, which is too bad.

I am saying in general the people who are doing the work and honestly wanted to do it should be asked, I mean yea there are people on here who are like"Well, I wanted to do, XYZ but never thought it would actually happen or actualy have to do anything" but thats on them , and maybe weren't smart enough to figure out thats why they are on a committee, but hey thats there choice. The people who are actually making an effort should be the ones that actually matter.
But as always my two cents
DGP~Honey~

[PsychTau]

I've been silently reading everything for a while now. I originally volunteered for Membership Education and Development, because life long learning is important to me and I wanted to share things with others. I still think there is a need and purpose for that. Maybe I will start a thread for that, who knows. Do you even want THAT to happen?

For Gamma Chi, I'm starting to feel unwelcome here for the reason that I ever wanted to make Greek Chat something bigger. I would love it if we could band together, have regional meetings, educate HS kids and others on Greeks, and show that "no matter the letter, we're all greek together". (Sometimes when colleges make a big show of that, it seems so fake. Like they would look bad to their university if they didn't participate with a smile on their face. I know I felt that way on freshmen move in days at my school. Greeks coming together from all areas, organized on their own, would send a different message.)

I vote for #3. Lose the drama, the arguing, etc. Wear the GC letters if a group of us ever get together to do some sort of outreach, and work to expand ourselves and our experiences together.

And about the "Phi Gamma Chi" signatures (I can't make the symbols appear!!!). Well, since no one has said what it means, the assumption must be correct . And that hurts my feelings just like it would if you said "Phi Alpha Sigma Tau". Is it necessary now? Appears as though Gamma Chi has ended, can we please end the signature? It would help make things feel more friendly, don't you think?

Sorry for the length. . .

[KSig RC]

Originally posted by PsychTau
And about the "Phi Gamma Chi" signatures (I can't make the symbols appear!!!). Well, since no one has said what it means, the assumption must be correct . And that hurts my feelings just like it would if you said "Phi Alpha Sigma Tau". Is it necessary now? Appears as though Gamma Chi has ended, can we please end the signature? It would help make things feel more friendly, don't you think?

First of all, I don't know what kind of logic we're using here, but just b/c I wasn't here to respond doesn't mean your assumption is true . . .

I don't ask you what Alpha Sigma Tau means, I don't ask SKAlum what Sigma Kappa represents, and I don't think it to be necessary to divulge anything about Phi Gamma Chi letters any time soon - b/c that's not what it's about, and anything that I have to say will be said outloud. It's not a crack on any one person, don't feel like it is.

Curiosity killed the cat.

Also - I don't think any of the signatures need to go anywhere. None of us requested that Gamma Chi be taken off any signatures, and I'd just ask for the same in return.

Don't feel uncomforable, PsychTau - you have, to this point, been a solid contributer to our little online community. You just jumped on board at a messed up point in time.

[FuzzieAlum]

I don't ask you what Alpha Sigma Tau means, I don't ask SKAlum what Sigma Kappa represents, and I don't think it to be necessary to divulge anything about Phi Gamma Chi letters any time soon - b/c that's not what it's about, and anything that I have to say will be said outloud. It's not a crack on any one person, don't feel like it is.

Like, Phi Gamma Chi is an honor society you just happened to join the other week? Exactly at the same time this GX controversy was turning nasty?

I may not know what ZLAM means in a ZTA's sig, or why Phi Mu new members are called "Phis," but we recognize these things. It isn't my business what they represent because they are standard phrases for the group.

On the other hand, if on a campus, my sorority had a rivalry with the Mu Tau Nu sorority, and all of a suddent they started wearing shirts that said "SKRU AZD," I would have a right to suspect they probably aren't just expressing sisterhood for each other!

Given the timing of your sig appearing, you can hardly expect us to assume anything other than the obvious. If you don't like us assuming that, then you can explain it. If you don't care what we think, then why bother responding to the speculation at all?

[damasa]

Originally posted by FuzzieAlum


Like, Phi Gamma Chi is an honor society you just happened to join the other week?

Come on, if it really was anything other than Fuck Gamma Chi, you would have been out with it right away.

yes yes, again, more assumptions.

Why are we inclined to justify it? We aren't. We shouldn't have to justify it to you or anyone else on GreekChat if we do not feel the need.

You talk as if you know by saying "come on" when you really know nothing at all, and if we don't feel like letting you know..we don't have to, it's just that simple. There is no need to get vulgar and explicit on the boards....that can aid in showing the weakness in ones character

Have a rocking day

[TigerGirl52]

Good GOD...would y'all just calm down about Phi Gamma Chi???? Everybody reach down and pull the underoos out your ass because we're all getting worked up over nothing. That's right I said NOTHING. As far as I'm concerned...Gamma Chi and Phi Gamma Chi are nothing more than little black letters on my computer screen. So just chill out!!! There's wayyyy more important issues in the world today.


Allison

[FuzzieAlum]

Words are never "nothing." Otherwise, folks would never get excited over anything said on this messge board. Heck, we wouldn't even bother communicating, because we wouldn't be saying anything.

Under that line of thinking, I could anything - white people are stupid and ugly, your mom is fat, I hate fraternities - and be "shocked" when there's a reaction. I mean, they're just words, they don't mean anything, right?

Wrong.

[TigerGirl52]

You're not seeing my point. I'm saying that everyone is trying to make Gamma Chi and Phi Gamma Chi out to be "real" GLOs. That's why I said they are NOTHING (and that's technically the truth). I am not for Gamma Chi because I don't consider it to be "real" and as far as I can tell Phi Gamma Chi came about to poke some serious fun at those on this board who were actually taking Gamma Chi seriously. Anyways...go ahead and blast me again because it seems that you have nothing better to do. I, in the mean time, will go to class and try to be a productive person. Have a nice day Fuzzie Alum.

Allison

[IowaHawkeye]

Originally posted by FuzzieAlum



I may not know what ZLAM means in a ZTA's sig, or why Phi Mu new members are called "Phis," but we recognize these things. It isn't my business what they represent because they are standard phrases for the group.

i use DZLAM much like ZTA's use ZLAM - and the basic meaning of it is Delta Zeta Love and Mine

[Delta_theta]

Gamma Chi was created, as I understand it, to be the next step in greek solidarity. Yes, that is a gross oversimplification, but it was one of the aspects I picked up from the spattering of posts I've read.

And now look at what has happened.

No offense to anyone on either side, but this squabble over GC has gotten, well absurd. We already have enough house infighting. Enough insults, and worries. No, I don't place the blame on GC, as it wasn't being forced on everyone(except in propaganda to anyone on these boards), but nor do I blame those that will be labed PGC for now, as I also belive they have a right to their opinion. But here is my suggestion.

PGC, let GC be. To be honest, I do not support GC, but I have let it be. It will not effect me in any noticable way if I do not worry myself over it.

GC, Though the ideals are good, I belive it is an unnessasary thing. But, I see no reason not to continue if you can get the support.

To the both of you, I'd say as members of GC/PGC, stop communicating. As members of said sides. Go back to being part of the GLO's you joined. I have an inate distrust and distaste for dual membership as it is. especially when you include such things as membership rituals, wearing letters, etc. But I shall not push that on others. Were this a war, and I was thrown in, to take sides, I would have to place myself over on the PGC side, just because of my belief on the premisie of GC and some of its planned things--rituals, etc.

Idealy, lets go back to our roots. We all have our houses. Mine being Sigma Nu. I am a Sigma Nu. I am also GREEK. Members of GC--perhaps try getting greekchat to unify greeks before making a small group of unified greeks, that some will take to be elite. Personaly, I'd also stay away from the ritual, letters, and "pledging." Members of PGC, if you don't like it, stay away from it. avoid the GC posts, and you won't have to worry or bother with it anymore.

GC can still attempt its full foundation as the first coed, internet, um. GLO.

And the rest of us can just be Greeks from our houses.

M.
Delta Theta Chapter of Sigma Nu
Knox College