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03-07-2005, 08:49 PM
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Soror Diva is so right on point in that not everyone on these "lists" are on there for hazing.
So, how 'bout this, Sorors...
How 'bout if corporate sets up the list so that it not only lists the name of the Soror, chapter, dates - - but also lists the infraction.
Ex.
Jane Doe
Omega Omega Omega
Location: Anywhere USA
Dates: 1/1/04 - 1/1/10
Infraction: Hazing
Jane Doe
Omega Omega Omega
Location: Anywhere USA
Dates: 1/1/04 - 1/1/10
Infraction: Embezzlement
Now that ought to scare the @#$* out of a some potential shady people.
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03-07-2005, 08:59 PM
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Specifics are good
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Soror Prayerfull, you're on to something. The one thing that corporate MUST do, however, is make sure it's updated quarterly and consistently. The information has to be 1908% accurate.
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03-07-2005, 09:01 PM
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Originally posted by prayerfull
Soror Diva is so right on point in that not everyone on these "lists" are on there for hazing.
So, how 'bout this, Sorors...
How 'bout if corporate sets up the list so that it not only lists the name of the Soror, chapter, dates - - but also lists the infraction.
Ex.
Jane Doe
Omega Omega Omega
Location: Anywhere USA
Dates: 1/1/04 - 1/1/10
Infraction: Hazing
Jane Doe
Omega Omega Omega
Location: Anywhere USA
Dates: 1/1/04 - 1/1/10
Infraction: Embezzlement
Now that ought to scare the @#$* out of a some potential shady people.
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I think that our National Organization sees that any "postable" infraction is considered hazing, under the Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. Hazing Manual...
I.e. a "sin is a sin"--none big, none small--the fact is, it is a "sin"... Period...
I dunno if I agree with it... But what can I do about it? It is the way it is and hey, at least I am not on the list...
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03-07-2005, 09:01 PM
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I reiterate the majority of Chapter suspensions, member suspensions, and expulsions are due to HAZING when will you people realize this -and think about why a DAR list was necessary anyway, so as to deter this deplorable practice, get your heads out of the clouds! 
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03-07-2005, 09:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by prayerfull
Soror Diva is so right on point in that not everyone on these "lists" are on there for hazing.
So, how 'bout this, Sorors...
How 'bout if corporate sets up the list so that it not only lists the name of the Soror, chapter, dates - - but also lists the infraction.
Ex.
Jane Doe
Omega Omega Omega
Location: Anywhere USA
Dates: 1/1/04 - 1/1/10
Infraction: Hazing
Jane Doe
Omega Omega Omega
Location: Anywhere USA
Dates: 1/1/04 - 1/1/10
Infraction: Embezzlement
Now that ought to scare the @#$* out of a some potential shady people.
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I think this is a good idea. I wish we would do this. Funny, but one of my sorors on the list is more ticked off that they didn't say why (it was another infraction.) She doesn't want people thinking she is a "hazer." 
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Last edited by ladygreek; 03-08-2005 at 01:32 AM.
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03-07-2005, 10:47 PM
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Originally posted by Lady of Pearl
I reiterate the majority of Chapter suspensions, member suspensions, and expulsions are due to HAZING when will you people realize this -and think about why a DAR list was necessary anyway, so as to deter this deplorable practice, get your heads out of the clouds!
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*she said, "you people..."*
LMAO
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She doesn't want people thinking she is a "hazer."
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LMAO. Seriously? Whatever she did it doesn't matter, she's still "branded" as a sheisty, non-rule conforming so and so of XYZ organization whose name is on the "List of Shame".
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03-07-2005, 11:14 PM
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I was at Boule in Nashville. I know what's up. I heard the rationale during the plenary session. Severl other GC members did also.
Relax. Relate.Release. Lady. of. Pearl.
Noone has questioned who you are or whose you are. There are some who have their opinion as to what and why names are listed.
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03-07-2005, 11:16 PM
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Originally posted by Lady of Pearl
Clearly the majority of you people.have not checked out the AKA National website under the membership section it clearly delineates that these DAR's of suspensions of individuals and chapters are due to the violation of ANTI-HAZING guidelines, no matter what you call me I'm still an AKA and a Child of God!
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Misinterpret what?
Sidebar: I'm not sure why your edit of mentioning be careful in quoting SAWRAH...somethng something something won't quote.
ETA: She deleted her post(s).
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03-08-2005, 01:40 AM
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Originally posted by AKA2D '91
LMAO. Seriously? Whatever she did it doesn't matter, she's still "branded" as a sheisty, non-rule conforming so and so of XYZ organization whose name is on the "List of Shame".
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True. But I think she prided herself that the infraction for which she was disciplined wasn't hazing. If you catch my drift.
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03-08-2005, 03:52 PM
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Originally posted by AKA_Monet
I think that our National Organization sees that any "postable" infraction is considered hazing, under the Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. Hazing Manual...
I.e. a "sin is a sin"--none big, none small--the fact is, it is a "sin"... Period...
I dunno if I agree with it... But what can I do about it? It is the way it is and hey, at least I am not on the list...
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Hi soror,
I know someone personally who is on the list for a non-hazing related incident (Read Article V Section I of our Bylaws) I know 2 other sorors personally who have been suspended by the same bylaw and it's faulty interpretation. It is not good to judge all sorors on this list by the same standard. There is a story behind it all.
Be blessed and take care. 
Last edited by Diva_56; 03-08-2005 at 03:58 PM.
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03-08-2005, 04:28 PM
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I agree with AKA Monet. Whatever they did, whether it was hazing or not, the directorate felt it serious enough to SUSPEND them. I can't empathize with them. I stand behind my org 1908%. If they felt their behavior was serious enough to warrant suspension, too bad for them.
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03-08-2005, 05:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Diva_56
Hi soror,
I know someone personally who is on the list for a non-hazing related incident (Read Article V Section I of our Bylaws) I know 2 other sorors personally who have been suspended by the same bylaw and it's faulty interpretation. It is not good to judge all sorors on this list by the same standard. There is a story behind it all.
Be blessed and take care.
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Soror Diva_56,
Please PM me as soon as you get this message.
Either way, regardless of the C&B and MOSP says, suspensions are on the records of all members throughout their service to the Sorority.
Yes, it is unfair... Especially if it did not have ANYTHING to do with physical or overt mental violence that is obviously called hazing... However, what is posted on the International website is WHAT the Directorate decided. Moreover, majority of the chapter's delagates elected these members into Directorate, inherently supporting all decisions made by the Directorate... And as of now, we MUST stand by our Directorate's decision... Changes will be made over time to be more adjustable for each soror's situation...
These are the things that are done during Clusters, Regionals and Boules... It can be brought through a chapter and put on the ballot in the C&B committee at these events... And it takes years to get to Boule... I know, I have been on this committee from Local to International... And on the Resolutions committee several times.
And as a former GA, these are the rules that one must follow to be in good standing with the Sorority. Plain and simple. There should be little complaints after it has been posted.
I support the decision of the Sorority and the Directorate. Or at least my money does... 
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03-08-2005, 06:54 PM
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Sorors please forgive my interruption but how about if this conversation is taken to email (or another venue) where it can be discussed before sorors as opposed to the message board?
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Originally posted by prayerfull
Soror Diva is so right on point in that not everyone on these "lists" are on there for hazing.
So, how 'bout this, Sorors...
How 'bout if corporate sets up the list so that it not only lists the name of the Soror, chapter, dates - - but also lists the infraction.
Ex.
Jane Doe
Omega Omega Omega
Location: Anywhere USA
Dates: 1/1/04 - 1/1/10
Infraction: Hazing
Jane Doe
Omega Omega Omega
Location: Anywhere USA
Dates: 1/1/04 - 1/1/10
Infraction: Embezzlement
Now that ought to scare the @#$* out of a some potential shady people.
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Last edited by SummerChild; 03-08-2005 at 06:59 PM.
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03-08-2005, 11:07 PM
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Soror Summerchild:
I saw your post and my tongue is bleeding from me biting my tongue! Have Sorors found a "non" public venue for this discussion?
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03-09-2005, 10:12 AM
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Originally posted by Jody
Soror Summerchild:
I saw your post and my tongue is bleeding from me biting my tongue! Have Sorors found a "non" public venue for this discussion?
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LOL. Yes.
Email or PM as "hinted" at days ago. 
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