LOST: The Final Season

[LucyKKG]

"That's not John. That's my friend!" Sooo creepy!

Am I crazy or did they not mention Jack's son til this episode? I dunno, stranger things have happened.

[ColdInCanada11]

I can't remember them mentioning mini-Jack either. Can the plane not going to the island change their lives before the plane??? Aack, Damon and Carlton, you are tricky.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by LucyKKG

"That's not John. That's my friend!" Sooo creepy!

Am I crazy or did they not mention Jack's son til this episode? I dunno, stranger things have happened.

I also thought that they hadn't mentioned his son until this episode.

I do have a theory as to who David's mother is (if she is someone who has been on the show already), but I think I'll keep this one to myself because I wouldn't want to ruin it for anyone if I'm actually right. And when (and if) we find out, I promise I'll be honest about whether or not I was actually correct!

And the whole "That's my friend" thing... It makes me wonder if (this) Claire never knew John, or if she remembers him but knows that this is the smoke monster, or if she's forgotten about Locke because she's crazy.

It's hard to tell when we don't exactly know what happened to her.

[Senusret I]

I'm pretty sure Bomb-Fail Reality Jack has no son, but Bomb-Win Reality Jack does. Hence not knowing about it before. Maybe in Bomb-Win Reality, Trojan-Fail?

[ADqtPiMel]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

I'm pretty sure Bomb-Fail Reality Jack has no son, but Bomb-Win Reality Jack does. Hence not knowing about it before. Maybe in Bomb-Win Reality, Trojan-Fail?

What he said. Jack's son only exists in the reality where 815 doesn't crash. And we know the mother isn't Kate because she and Jack just saw each other on the plane and showed no signs of recognizing each other. I kind of think the mother might be Juliet.

And hey, we finally got an answer on the numbers -- at least, where they originated. Pretty cool.

[SydneyK]

Originally Posted by ADqtPiMel

I kind of think the mother might be Juliet.

I thought the same thing. My vote right now is for Juliette, with Sarah (maybe in no-bomb/crash world, Sarah and Jack stay together) as my second choice.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by SydneyK

I thought the same thing. My vote right now is for Juliette.

I WILL say that this wasn't my guess

[Senusret I]

Last night's episode = one of my favorites of all time.

[SydneyK]

Originally Posted by Senusret I

Last night's episode = one of my favorites of all time.

Same here. Things changed so quickly.

When the Sayid/Dogen fight first started, I was almost torn - didn't know who to root for! Sayid went from being one of my favorites to... who am I kidding, he's still a favorite... playing for the wrong team now!

So, let's see... we've got:
Team Jacob: Jack, Hurley, Jin?
Team Smokey/Locke: Claire, Sayid, lots of disgruntled TempleDwellers

I didn't see Miles or Sun after Smokey invaded the Temple - do we know where they are? And is Kate a swing vote? (Locke looked kinda pissed to see her.)

Still lots of questions, but I'm loving this season. Sad to see Dogen die so soon.

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by SydneyK

Same here. Things changed so quickly.

When the Sayid/Dogen fight first started, I was almost torn - didn't know who to root for! Sayid went from being one of my favorites to... who am I kidding, he's still a favorite... playing for the wrong team now!

So, let's see... we've got:
Team Jacob: Jack, Hurley, Jin?
Team Smokey/Locke: Claire, Sayid, lots of disgruntled TempleDwellers

I didn't see Miles or Sun after Smokey invaded the Temple - do we know where they are? And is Kate a swing vote? (Locke looked kinda pissed to see her.)

Still lots of questions, but I'm loving this season. Sad to see Dogen die so soon.

Miles and Sun disappeared into that secret room and Smokey never saw them as he flew down that hallway.

[ASTalumna06]

Originally Posted by SydneyK

And is Kate a swing vote? (Locke looked kinda pissed to see her.)

I couldn't tell if she started walking with them. I wasn't sure if Locke's look was "Ugh, it's you, I guess you can come along," or "Ugh, it's you, we're peacin' out, b****!"

[ree-Xi]

FYI - I think that the number 23 corresponding to "Sheppard" isn't Jack, but rather, Christian (his dad).

Notice how it's written in a different handwriting on the dial and the ceiling, from the other names.

The flashback in the mirror on the lighthouse showed Jack's childhood home, but Jacob hadn't touched Jack until he was an adult.

[Ch2tf]

Originally Posted by ree-Xi

FYI - I think that the number 23 corresponding to "Sheppard" isn't Jack, but rather, Christian (his dad).

Notice how it's written in a different handwriting on the dial and the ceiling, from the other names.

The flashback in the mirror on the lighthouse showed Jack's childhood home, but Jacob hadn't touched Jack until he was an adult.

The only reason I'm not inclined to believe this is that based on pre-cash situations, Christian could only make it to the island dead, in which case MIB would be able to "take on his form" and manipulate those that knew (of) him: Jack and Claire. I can't see Jacob bringing him to the island to only be used as a wrinkle in his plan.

[ms_gwyn]

Ok I think I finally got it….

We are in two different time lines (of course and that is obvious)…but here is where my confusion really started…

We are dealing with a completely different alternate reality that started back in 1977 (I believe that is the correct year, but during the 70s) with the bomb going off. And the real reality where they were on the Island.

It is interesting to see that regardless of the Island, there people would’ve intersected anyway.

Now that, that is cleared up in my head….I can concentrate on finding screen caps of the compass dial and figure out who Ilana is and what is her deal….


Not sure if I like “bad” Sayid or not, but he is still damn sexy

[Ch2tf]

Originally Posted by ms_gwyn

Ok I think I finally got it….
We are dealing with a completely different alternate reality that started back in 1977 (I believe that is the correct year, but during the 70s) with the bomb going off. And the real reality where they were on the Island.

Thank You for this. Just by default I assume they go back to 2004 before the plane crashed and that the only thing up until that point that differed was the plane crash NOT that they went all the way back to 1977 with differences in their lives.

Woot Woot, a spot of clarity!