State of the Union Address

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by shimano

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...032100104.html

What is your interpretation of this?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by shimano

I will let the messiah say it for me.

Obama's your messiah? That sucks. And it sucks that you can't speak for yourself.

[moe.ron]

Originally Posted by shimano

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100130/..._obama_deficit

The government reported Friday the economy grew at an annual rate of 5.7 percent in the final three months of 2009. It was the second consecutive quarter of growth and the fastest rate in more than six years.

Hmmmm

[AOII Angel]

Originally Posted by Ghostwriter

As I am what I consider a "true" conservative (social and fiscal), I can attest to the above. I was appalled with the spending that occurred under Bush. With the full employment we enjoyed and low taxes we could have easily maintained a balanced budget and should have been able to start paying off some of our massive debt. Look at the fiasco of "No Child Left Behind" and the prescription drugs program for seniors.

As a swerve;

If I were in charge or had the power I would propose:

1. exempting the first $35K of wages from income taxes
2. moving to a flat rate of 14% for everything over $35K for everyone
3. remove all deductions except for charitable
4. a 10% reduction in spending across the board for all departments in the Federal govt.
5. do away with all czar's
6. shut down the Surgeon General's Office
7. return the Dept. of Educations duties to the states
8. cut capital gains to 15%
9. reduce the tax burden on small businesses (20 employees or less) by 1/2
10. privatize Social Security for those under 55 years of age
11. totally revamp Medicaid and Medicare
12. do away with all earmarks
13. do away with the inheritance tax
14. require that everyone pay their taxes directly to the IRS themselves and not have them paid via their employer
15. not allow congress to increase their own pay. approval by the voting public, only.
16. term limits of 2 six year terms for the senate and 6 two year terms for the house
17. require that for every law written by congress one must be rescinded. the less laws they write the better.
18. require the budget to be balanced by law

When you get right down to it the root of most evil in Washington is via manipulation of the tax codes for self interest. The above would most certainly shut down a large portion of the IRS and yield further savings.

Off my "true conservative" soap box, now.

I can't fault any of your ideas, but no one would ever pass them...lobbyists would have no power and that's just not the American way!

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by Ghostwriter

If I were in charge or had the power I would propose:
[LIST=1][*]exempting the first $35K of wages from income taxes

I'm not a fan of that idea because we would have even more of the population having ZERO tax liability. I think we need an across the board tax percentage that every income earner pays regardless of income. When you have only one segment paying taxes it turns into a " the haves vs the have nots" thing. With everyone paying into the system more people will be mindful of Federal and local spending and where their money is going. I like the original American way of only land owners ( tax payers) being able to vote. I admit it's an extreme way of thinking, but since tax payers are the ones providing the funding, we should have a more weighted voice.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by shimano

[/LIST]Anyone making less that 35k is not pulling their weight and they should be deported.

Not true at all, a single person making 28-35k can live quite comfortably depending on the region they live in.

[PiKA2001]

Originally Posted by shimano

I stand corrected. Anyone making less than 28k should be deported.

Deported where? You can't deport a USC to a different country unless they are a dual citizen of that country AND that country is willing to accept them.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by shimano

I stand corrected. Anyone making less than 28k should be deported.

They'd keep coming back after being deported . . . just like you do after being banned.

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by PiKA2001

Deported where? You can't deport a USC to a different country unless they are a dual citizen of that country AND that country is willing to accept them.

You have to realize that in his twisted mind, the only people making less then 28K are illegal immigrants.

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by shimano

No. The hoodrats with 8 illegitimate kids and no jobs make less than 28k. I wish we could deport them for the same reason. They add nothing to society.

If you disagree with me then you are probably part of the problem.

So you are saying unless you think they are worthy they shouldn't be entitled to all the rights of any other citizen?

[Psi U MC Vito]

Originally Posted by shimano

When I am named Commissioner of the Universe that is way it will be.

The problem with your people is you want all the rights but you don't want any of the responsiblity. You want to get paid but don't want to go to work.

My people? Are you serous?

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by shimano

The illegals are like bums in the park. They will keep coming back if you keep feeding them.

So if we stopped feeding you, you'd stop coming back after being banned? Promise?

[Ghostwriter]

Originally Posted by shimano

I stand corrected. Anyone making less than 28k should be deported.

Now you are just being confrontational for the fun of it. You are starting to appear troll like. There are many members of society who contribute mightily to our country and make less than 28k. I venture to guess that many members of our military make less than that. Teachers at private schools, pastors at small churches and people just starting out after college. Your servers at the favorite restaurant probably make less. How about part time workers? Heck I even quit my job and started my own business and the start up did not allow me to make that much. Should I be deported? I believe that illegal aliens should be deported when found and our borders tightened but you cannot make statements such as you do and paint with that broad of a brush. You are starting to sound silly or are you just trolling for a reaction?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Ghostwriter

Now you are just being confrontational for the fun of it. You are starting to appear troll like.

Hello, let me introduce you to the often banned "madmax."

If he bothers you, I recommend just putting him on ignore.

[Ghostwriter]

^^^ No Doc I am just embarrassed that we have people around that write such inflamatory diatribes just for kicks. It shuts down reasonable discourse, but of course, that may be what the poster wants. I shall ignore him/her/it. Thanks for the heads up.