Judge dismisses Wyoming KKG lawsuit

[33girl]

Has anyone ever heard of going directly from a province director to national president? I know all our groups have different names for things, but there are usually a LOT of steps in between unless the national organization is VERY small.

Here's my biggest question, and I realize how it's going to sound. Over lo these many years of posting on GC, KKG has never struck me as one of the more liberal or open-minded groups on a national scale. In fact, the polar opposite. When and how did that change? Was there a leadership coup or something? Or is this something that came from the collegiate chapters and trickled up?

[33girl]

Originally Posted by bevinpiphi

We had a trans member in the late 2000's - but she had been socially transitioned since high school. She however got in on her own merits, and met all academic requirements for the chapter.

I'm betting all 26 groups have had transgender members (whether they know it or not). Just as back in the day, groups who weren't admitting Black or Asian or Jewish people had some Black or Asian or Jewish people on their rolls. You can get a lot accomplished if you're wise enough to keep your mouth shut.

[navane]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Has anyone ever heard of going directly from a province director to national president?

Has anyone ever heard of going directly from 2020 alumna initiate to province director?

[carnation]

Originally Posted by navane

Has anyone ever heard of going directly from 2020 alumna initiate to province director?

Originally Posted by 33girl

Has anyone ever heard of going directly from a province director to national president?

THESE. BOTH of these.

[Pinkmagnolia921]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Has anyone ever heard of going directly from a province director to national president? I know all our groups have different names for things, but there are usually a LOT of steps in between unless the national organization is VERY small.

Here's my biggest question, and I realize how it's going to sound. Over lo these many years of posting on GC, KKG has never struck me as one of the more liberal or open-minded groups on a national scale. In fact, the polar opposite. When and how did that change? Was there a leadership coup or something? Or is this something that came from the collegiate chapters and trickled up?

Great Question!

[UVASquirrel]

Originally Posted by LaneSig

Point of Order:

Doesn't the fact that Tracey Nadzieja had previously been a member of Sigma Pi disallow membership in Kappa Kappa Gamma?

Would that fall under "not being a member of another group or similar type"?

I don't know about anyone else, but our requirements for Alumnae Initiation state that they can't be an initiated member of any other NPC, NPHC or Multi-Cultural group. We don't have any rule about men's groups.

[carnation]

Originally Posted by UVASquirrel

I don't know about anyone else, but our requirements for Alumnae Initiation state that they can't be an initiated member of any other NPC, NPHC or Multi-Cultural group. We don't have any rule about men's groups.

I bet no one ever thought it would come to this, though.

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by UVASquirrel

I don't know about anyone else, but our requirements for Alumnae Initiation state that they can't be an initiated member of any other NPC, NPHC or Multi-Cultural group. We don't have any rule about men's groups.

Originally Posted by carnation

I bet no one ever thought it would come to this, though.

PLEASE, let this insanity stop! Let the powers that be realize the oaths that were broken, and will continue to be broken in the quest to destroy the very concept of sorority!

[TLLK]

Originally Posted by UVASquirrel

I don't know about anyone else, but our requirements for Alumnae Initiation state that they can't be an initiated member of any other NPC, NPHC or Multi-Cultural group. We don't have any rule about men's groups.

I'm unfamiliar with the specifics of Delta Gamma's Alumnae Initiate requirements but I would assume that they're similar to your group's.

It's part of Delta Gamma's history that our founders agreed to have a male initiate in order to establish chapters outside of the South. This was during the 19th century though. Phi Delta Theta's George Banta was instrumental in establishing chapters in the norther part of the country.

[Phrozen Sands]

Originally Posted by honeychile

PLEASE, let this insanity stop! Let the powers that be realize the oaths that were broken, and will continue to be broken in the quest to destroy the very concept of sorority!

When honeychile speaks with exclamation marks, y’all better listen Lol. I hear you. I had to lane swerve when I read this.

[carnation]

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

When honeychile speaks with exclamation marks, y’all better listen Lol. I hear you. I had to lane swerve when I read this.

[FSUZeta]

But is it not be a member of an NPC sorority or to not be a member of another group? I suspect it is the former, so technically Sigma Pi would not be seen as a conflict. But then, when our constitutions were written, the curious situation we find ourselves in now, was not sitting on the front porch drinking iced tea.

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by Phrozen Sands

When honeychile speaks with exclamation marks, y’all better listen Lol. I hear you. I had to lane swerve when I read this.

You flatter me, Phrozen Sands! And I love it!

[Cheerio]

It's a plot to encourage stronger alumnae ties and volunteer service from older, more experienced initiates, thus possibly preventing allegedly subversive actions by those already holding powerful official positions.

[Phrozen Sands]

Originally Posted by honeychile

You flatter me, Phrozen Sands! And I love it!

I’m just preaching facts Lol