Indiana University 2014 Recruitment

[hopeful mom]

Does anyone know how many girls are rushing? the new colony? or how many they plan to accept this year?

Also, as far as informal rush goes, with all the houses taking their quota, will there be any houses to informal rush? not sure how that works?

thanks!

[Titchou]

775 posts on 52 pages....haven't we said everything that needs be said about this topic?

[silver_blue]

Originally Posted by Titchou

775 posts on 52 pages....haven't we said everything that needs be said about this topic?

As one of the people who participated in beating this dead horse, I agree. Any way this thread or another sort of "IU FYI" thread can be stickied?

[Sciencewoman]

Originally Posted by Titchou

775 posts on 52 pages....haven't we said everything that needs be said about this topic?

Yes.

[DubaiSis]

And arguing another point, why WOULDN'T someone use every weapon in the arsenal. I mean, I've known some unknown musicians who ran their business this way instead of using family connections. You'll never hear of them because they didn't use the one thing that would make a difference. If famous parents would have made her memorable in that VAST pool of qualified girls, then I don't feel much sympathy. If it was her only outstanding quality it wouldn't have changed the outcome anyway. This is the Midwest after all.

[Sigmapsimom]

Response from NPC from sororityparents.com on this year's outrage over IU recruitment. Glad to see that they specifically mention that they and some of the nationals have asked them to move to a traditional quota system.



npc - 01/24/14 @ 11:43 am
We appreciate the thoughts and concerns and suggestions expressed regarding the Indiana University (IU) recruitment process.

Please know that the Indiana University (IU) Panhellenic operates a unique system in the determination of quota for each of the 21 NPC members groups represented on the campus. Each of the 19 housed chapters sets its own quota, based upon the number of projected open bed spaces for the next academic year. It is the ONLY campus in the United States that remains on this system. For the two unhoused chapters, their quota is determined based upon preferred size for operation and being comparable in total chapter size to the other chapters on campus.

It is a long-held belief of collegiate and alumnae sorority members of this university community that the experience of living together in a chapter house for three years is critical to one’s overall sorority experience; hence this practice remains in place, in spite of continued requests from the inter/national organizations and the National Panhellenic Conference for the chapters to move to a true quota/total system. Several, but not all chapters have instituted a live-out policy for a limited number of senior members, but unfortunately these waivers and policies are not sufficient enough to meet the demand of the number of women wanting to join each year.

NPC continues to work with the collegiate and alumnae members of chapters in this system on this process and the overwhelming hurt caused by not opening up the system to meet the interest expressed by unaffiliated women on this campus. Because recruitment is a mutual selection process, not every woman expressing interest in the system may receive a bid. However, if the campus would use the traditional quota/total system, there certainly would be an increased opportunity for the placement of more women.

Additionally, in an effort to assist with placement of interested women in sorority membership a third unhoused sorority will be colonizing on the campus this academic term — Delta Phi Epsilon. Women who do not receive a bid during the recruitment process will be eligible to participate in the colony recruitment process of Delta Phi Epsilon. The dates of its recruitment are January 22-29. Please contact Melissa Riley at Mreilly@dphie.org for more information about DPhiE recruitment.

Please know that NPC continues to have discussions with leaders of the Panhellenic and local alumnae about this situation and will continue to try to find ways to improve this process. We encourage you to express your specific concerns and comments directly to the Indiana University Panhellenic at iupharec@gmail.com.

- See more at: http://sororityparents.com/2011/01/s....qa2N6nDb.dpuf

[Mom64]

My daughter knows of two girls who have been approached (both by the same sorority). One was asked to join yesterday, the other today. I am unsure if they were a snap bid or a cob but I was under the impression that cob would not begin until after the DPhie had finished their recruitment.

Can someone explain the requirements to participate in COB? Can someone who rushed and did not list all the sororities she was invited to for 3 party participate? What about someone who withdrew and did not fill out a bid card at all?

[IndianaSigKap]

Originally Posted by Mom64

Can someone explain the requirements to participate in COB? Can someone who rushed and did not list all the sororities she was invited to for 3 party participate? What about someone who withdrew and did not fill out a bid card at all?

From what I recall being a recruitment advisor, any women in good standing with the university, taking a full course load, and having the required GPA are eligible for COB even if they did not participate in formal recruitment. The only exceptions are women who went through formal recruitment, signed a bid card and then DECLINED a bid if offered.

[Indiana mom]

Why would a sorority not pick a woman who went through all the trouble to rush over someone who didn't even go through recruitment. That really is allowed? Very disappointing .

[Indiana mom]

How do you sign up for COB?

[Mom64]

Originally Posted by Indiana mom

Why would a sorority not pick a woman who went through all the trouble to rush over someone who didn't even go through recruitment. That really is allowed? Very disappointing .

Just spoke with my daughter, she seems to think that this woman didn't have the grades to rush but could be given a spot through informal recruitment.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by Indiana mom

Why would a sorority not pick a woman who went through all the trouble to rush over someone who didn't even go through recruitment. That really is allowed? Very disappointing .

Because they 1) are embarrassed at not meeting their quota and don't want to publicize that further by holding open parties; 2) they only have one or two open spots and holding open parties would be a giant waste of time and get up way too many women's hopes for just one or two spots. In this case, it's much much much easier to bid a woman who is known by a majority of the chapter. There's no problem with someone coming in late and feeling out of place if she already knows the sisters. This happens at ALL schools, not just Evil Awful IU.

ETA: There is no concrete evidence that you don't need the same grades to get an open bid. That is a rumor. No national HQ is going to be OK with a woman who has a 2.0 getting a bid, ANY bid, when there are tons of women with 3.5s and above rushing, no matter if every single sister in the chapter knows her.

[blueiumom]

Originally Posted by 33girl

Because they 1) are embarrassed at not meeting their quota and don't want to publicize that further by holding open parties; 2) they only have one or two open spots and holding open parties would be a giant waste of time and get up way too many women's hopes for just one or two spots. In this case, it's much much much easier to bid a woman who is known by a majority of the chapter. There's no problem with someone coming in late and feeling out of place if she already knows the sisters. This happens at ALL schools, not just Evil Awful IU.

ETA: There is no concrete evidence that you don't need the same grades to get an open bid. That is a rumor. No national HQ is going to be OK with a woman who has a 2.0 getting a bid, ANY bid, when there are tons of women with 3.5s and above rushing, no matter if every single sister in the chapter knows her.

I'm hearing this same thing from my daughter. This is a girl with very close ties to the house who apparently did not make grades for formal rush. Keep in mind all the chapters at IU have grade requirements for formal rush that are not only higher than IU's Panhellenic requirements but also much higher than the national chapters' requirements. I have no idea whether this is somehow allowed within the rules, but I can see how it might technically be just fine if her grades met the Panhellenic and national chapter standards. I know it's hard to stomach, (it definitely caused a stir with my daughter just as she is starting to heal from all this) but I get it. I think it was a unique situation.

This whole thing has been such a fiasco, I'm just not willing to get all bent out of shape about 1 or 2 girls.....

[Indiana mom]

I can't believe that the same standards for grade requirements don't apply to informal recruitment. Sounds like my daughter may have been better off not going through formal recruitment. And FYI- my daughter had two legacies

[Griffins&Quills]

Originally Posted by Indiana mom

I can't believe that the same standards for grade requirements don't apply to informal recruitment. Sounds like my daughter may have been better off not going through formal recruitment. And FYI- my daughter had two legacies

I'm only speaking from what I know, so I could be wrong, but typically grade requirements are still enforced whether it is formal or informal recruitment. I believe most of the NPC chapters set a minimum of 2.5, as in, you have to have a 2.5 via nationals, or you are not allowed to join. Many college panhellenics set their own bar though, and chapters can choose to make the cutoff 2.7 or 3.0, etc. Grades are often the first reason a girl is cut.

However, say if the grade cutoff that a chapter desires is a 2.7 and the PNM has a 2.73, for example, she's considered a grade/academic risk. It's possible for her to pledge, but she probably has people speaking up for her.

I don't think that the national grade requirement would ever be thrown out just because it's informal instead of formal.