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04-02-2008, 06:50 AM
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RedRover:
I would assume that what you are saying is correct. That is truly a shame as Fr. H will ruin the school all on his own. However, as others have stated the power of money in a private school setting can often change the course of events. If enough alumni of Duquesne hear these types of messages in a larger venue, ie the newspaper, etc. they can certainly make an impact.
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04-02-2008, 11:42 AM
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There is no challenging Fr. H. If he wants it to happen, it will happen. Duquesne's Admin. is equivalent to a money hungry tyrant. I know many people would say then why wouldn't you just transfer to another school? But, i've already made friendships and I also like the majority of the teachers.
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04-02-2008, 12:29 PM
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Hi All:
Well, what can be said is this: Look how many hits this chat has received..over 2200. That says a great deal that something at Duquesne needs to done. I really feel for my sisters and all fraternities and sororities. My advice is that everyone who is reading these comments starts to talk to their alumni friends, family members, greek national offices and anyone who will listen. The more hits, the more this information is out there.
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04-02-2008, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DUgrad
Hi All:
Well, what can be said is this: Look how many hits this chat has received..over 2200. That says a great deal that something at Duquesne needs to done. I really feel for my sisters and all fraternities and sororities. My advice is that everyone who is reading these comments starts to talk to their alumni friends, family members, greek national offices and anyone who will listen. The more hits, the more this information is out there.
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The reason why I started responding to this was because I live in PA and while I don't know anyone who is greek that went to Duquense, there are tons of people out there who do. If you want to get people involved, then get the message out there. What do you have to loose?
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04-02-2008, 11:25 PM
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Duquesne doesn't have many wealthy alumni. Wealthy Catholics in Pittsburgh don't give to Duquesne (Notre Dame, yes). Alumni won't care
Secondly, Duquesne students are notoriously apathetic. To be honest, non-Greeks won't care if fraternities and sororities disappear on campus. Neither will be most of the university community.
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04-03-2008, 06:41 AM
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RedRover:
I am heading off to my elementary school so I have just a minute to respond to your remark. I don't know anything about the monies in Pittsburgh as I am from upstate New York, but I have always wondered if the vast majority of students at Duquesne like/dislike the Greeks. I always got along fine with those who were not in any greek organization but there seems to be a serious undercurrent of hatred towards greeks and spurred on by the administration of the school.
If it is apathy, then the national organizations of each of the fraternities and sororities might be the way to go as opposed to the alumni.
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04-03-2008, 11:56 AM
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HI ALL:
I didn't particularly like my own response this morning...too early for my bleary eyes and head to think correctly. Apathy and inability to change things usually comes from a feeling of helplessness. When you hear people say that only the vatican can remove Fr. H or change things at Duquesne that is pretty heavy for a bunch of kids.
The best thing to do is for people who are reading these threads to start talking...at the local Starbucks, coffee shops, when they are talking to their friends who went to Duquesne, at dinners, in the lunch room of their offices and busineeses, etc.
Then, STOP giving money to Duquesne.
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04-03-2008, 11:13 PM
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Twenty-five years ago, during the controversial tenure of Fr. Nesti as university president, the Spiritan provincial at the time, Fr. Norman, threatened to disband the university Board of Directors as well as dissolve the university corporation to demonstrate his support for Fr. Nesti. This was despite the fact that Fr. Nesti the confidence of the Duquesne community (faculty, alumni, etc). When push comes to shove, I would bet on the priest.
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04-04-2008, 07:03 AM
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RedRover:
What ever happened to Fr. Nesti? I have never heard his name mentioned. People when I was at Duquesne mentioned Dr. Murray and Fr. McAnulty but I have never heard of Fr. Nesti.
Did this Fr. Norman actually disband the Board of Directors?
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04-04-2008, 02:15 PM
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I have to be careful that my chapter is not targeted by DU but yes, our chapter spent considerable money this past year to fix their wing.
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04-04-2008, 02:36 PM
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Sorry--I didn't want you to be targeted....I just heard rumors...you know how that place is....sometimes you can't really confirm them.
I wonder why panhel isn't helping to solve these issues...especially the GLO...I know we have a newbie in the office....but don't you think these are campus-wide problems.
I mean going from 7 groups with full housing to 5 without...and the guys? Only 1 has full housing!!!
It is a problem I think everyone needs to work together to solve.
What do you think?
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04-04-2008, 11:42 PM
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Fr. Donald Nest was the university president between Fr. Mac and Dr. Murray. Needless to say, his tenure was short lived was very tumultous. I am not sure where he is after he voluntarily left the university presidency. There were various reports about his whereabouts.
Fr. Norman never disbanded the board of directors or the university corporation, but as provincial superior of the Spiritan congregation he had the right to do so.
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04-05-2008, 08:03 AM
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Let me ask you all a question. I was told that there is a greek alumni board. Where have they been? Are they puppets for Fr. H? The women in my chapter believe that is the case.
Along another line: The collegiates told me that all they do is raise money, money, money for every pet project either DU wants or someone else wants. Can any other group confirm this?
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04-05-2008, 10:36 AM
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Check out the Greek DU website--it talks about the Greek Alumni board. Not sure if it is a puppet organizaton--they threw a nice event in November--several of my sisters went. All groups have reps on the board. My suggestion is find out whose yours are.....
Yes, all groups are asked to do an incredible amount of service & fundraising for different causes--it gets a little insane!
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04-06-2008, 05:36 PM
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I have asked my sisters to contact our adviser team and alumni and ask for help. That is the only way our chapter at DU is going to see change. My sisters are tired of raising money for things. They don't mind doing good works they are just tired of doing it every day practically.
One or two of my collegiate sisters went to the greek alumni dinner but it was not by choice. All the sororities and fraternities were told to send repesentatives of their chapters from the undergraduate level.
Most of that dinner was about raising funds....
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