McCain shows his 'foreign expertise' in Jordan

[DaemonSeid]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

"Satan is throwing the biggest Halloween costume party ever in an all-new 'South Park' entitled, 'Hell on Earth 2006.' Satan is busy checking the RSVP list and deciding what costume to wear to the big event. Every detail must be perfect for the prince of darkness. But even Satan can't foresee everything. A prominent religious organization, an ex-lover and the antics of the most notorious serial killers of all time threaten Satan's fun."

One of my favorite South Park episodes ever. For some reason the above back-and-forth reminded me of it. =)

peppy...get outta my head!!!

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

"Satan is throwing the biggest Halloween costume party ever in an all-new 'South Park' entitled, 'Hell on Earth 2006.' Satan is busy checking the RSVP list and deciding what costume to wear to the big event. Every detail must be perfect for the prince of darkness. But even Satan can't foresee everything. A prominent religious organization, an ex-lover and the antics of the most notorious serial killers of all time threaten Satan's fun."

One of my favorite South Park episodes ever. For some reason the above back-and-forth reminded me of it. =)

Isn't this the Steve Irwin "too soon" episode?

[macallan25]

yep

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Your response had to do with Bush, who will not be running again in 2008.

I was making a sarcastic comment tinged with irony that was clearly lost on you.

Bush won in 2000. It is time to let it go. I'd much prefer the election to be decided by SCOTUS than the notably biased FL Supreme Court. There is even significant evidence that Bush would have won had the recount not been stopped.

I didn't say anything about the electoral college in my other post, but in my defense, I didn't know you were missing your sarcastic bone back then, so I'll just avoid it from now on.

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Be realistic. I'm a Republican. We don't pout. Leave the pouting and protesting to you guys. I'll be busy killing polluting and exploiting the poor out of anger.

Don't forget to fit shooting guns, protesting in front of Planned Parenthood clinics, chasing illegals across the border, cutting taxes for the wealthy and ruining our relationships with foreign powers into your schedule, too...

BTW, I've always noticed HUGE differences in people who first and foremost say "I'm a Republican" versus "I'm a conservative." Pay attention, you'll see what I'm talking about. Well, you may not, you know, the semantics thing, but others probably will.

[macallan25]

I've always said "I'm a conservative". I know what you are talking about.

Shooting guns, chasing illegals over the border, and cutting taxes for the wealthy sounds like a great time to me though.

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

I was making a sarcastic comment tinged with irony that was clearly lost on you.

I didn't say anything about the electoral college in my other post, but in my defense, I didn't know you were missing your sarcastic bone back then, so I'll just avoid it from now on.

Don't forget to fit shooting guns, protesting in front of Planned Parenthood clinics, chasing illegals across the border, cutting taxes for the wealthy and ruining our relationships with foreign powers into your schedule, too...

BTW, I've always noticed HUGE differences in people who first and foremost say "I'm a Republican" versus "I'm a conservative." Pay attention, you'll see what I'm talking about. Well, you may not, you know, the semantics thing, but others probably will.

It wasn't lost on me. You weren't able or willing to argue the point about Obama, so you brought up Bush as a fallback. Attempted sarcasm or not, it simply wasn't relevant.

Thanks for the additions, shooting guns is certainly a good one. For your side I'll tack on crying, indie films, berating religion, cowering to terrorists, eco-terrorism and resenting the military.

I say I'm a conservative, and I'm a Republican. I could care less what other people say. I don't believe in everything every Republican proposes, but I've got no problem labeling myself for convenience.

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

It wasn't lost on me. You weren't able or willing to argue the point about Obama, so you brought up Bush as a fallback. Attempted sarcasm or not, it simply wasn't relevant.

What "point about Obama?" The conversation I came in on was about McCain. I never referenced Obama in this conversation until this post. And if you've read any of my posts on any other threads, I've consistently said that I'm not on the Obama train (although now that Richardson's endorsed him and I'm guessing might be his VP, I might feel better about him). I thought we were talking about much broader things -- I made the comment that DC (as a whole, I didn't say just 1600 PA Ave) needs a shake-up, you switched into commando-grab-the-guns-and-the-kids-momma-and-let's-head-fer-the-hills-the-reds-are-comin' mode and listed off the litany of evils that will most certainly come out of a switch to the non-GOP party. You also never mentioned Obama in that particular exchange. So my sarcasm was a response to that little back-and-forth we were having, I thought in a macro-kind of sense.

For your side I'll tack on crying

guilty, "Rudy" gets me every time

indie films

like "Passion of the Christ"? No, I don't like those. I like comedies and Die Hard-type movies

berating religion

my deeply Catholic family would kill me

cowering to terrorists

have family members serving front-line as we speak, so shut up

eco-terrorism

I did just have 3 trees cut out of my front yard, so I bet the foliage around here does see me as quite the threat

and resenting the military.

see my answer before last and again, shut up

I don't believe in everything every Republican proposes, but I've got no problem labeling myself for convenience.

I somehow doubt this. I was raised nestled deep in the feathers of the right wing and I've known many a true-blue party-machine guy in my day, you e-strike me as being of the same ilk. If that's an incorrect perception, I apologize, but I do have some preconceived notions about guys that bluster like you from my experience that I will unfortunately probably never get rid of at this point. But either way, it's not that serious here and I'll stop trying to have enjoyably sarcastic conversation with you from here on out.

[shinerbock]

You seem a bit sensitive for someone so dead-set upon an exchange of enjoyable sarcasm. If you want to label my side as cruel or incompetent, I'll certainly label yours as weak and misguided. My reference to liberal stereotypes has nothing to do with your family members honorably serving our country, so please don't attempt to infer that it does.

You attempt to paint my original response as extreme, though you refute none of the original assertions. It has nothing to do with whether the next President is GOP, though given the dichotomy, that is certainly what I'd prefer. I did enjoy your commando/fear-mongering retort, which seems to be getting quite a bit of play from the left during this election cycle (though it notably doesn't apply if a liberal is talking about the Bush administration, global warming, or privacy).

Not to be rude, but I'm simply not concerned with what you believe about my party loyalties. I highly suspect your experiences with people of my "ilk," though perhaps based in reality, are significantly skewed by your own biases. However, if you equate being partisan to being unwilling to compromise on issues I believe are fundamental, then yes, I am partisan. That said, those views may or may not mirror those of the GOP.

[nittanyalum]

Fair enough.

So back to the OP, well at least tangentially, a question somewhat about McCain: who do you think / who do you want to see as McCain's running mate?

[moe.ron]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

Fair enough.

So back to the OP, well at least tangentially, a question somewhat about McCain: who do you think / who do you want to see as McCain's running mate?

Some one who can actually wake up at 3 AM

[hiding under the desk]

[nittanyalum]

LOL.

[shinerbock]

Originally Posted by nittanyalum

Fair enough.

So back to the OP, well at least tangentially, a question somewhat about McCain: who do you think / who do you want to see as McCain's running mate?

Not sure if you were asking me, but I'd like to see Romney for personal motivation reasons. I am simply not at all fond of McCain as a politician, and Romney on the ticket would bring a little more excitement to the cycle for me. I think Romney is even more favored now than he was while in the hunt, and I think his "goodbye" speech made a lot of his GOP opponents feel pretty stupid. I love elections, and I'd really like to be at least partially advocating FOR something, and not just against Barack/Hillary.

After that, there aren't too many suggestions that thrill me.

I like Lieberman as a human, but we've already got one compromiser heading up the GOP side.

Charlie Crist is interesting, but I don't know enough about him, and the base doesn't trust him.

Mark Sanford is a guy I like, but his place as a future star seems to be in question now.

Mike Huckabee would be a horrid pick, IMO. He simply brings no skills to the table (not that the VP needs them), and although it would calm some of the base, it'd scare the moderates. I also found his final days as a candidate to be incredibly petty (notably: taking a shot at Romney AFTER Romney had dropped out).

Rick Perry- Not necessarily ideal, but I'd be comfortable with it. He was mentioned by insiders w/ the Giuliani campaign, so I'm sure it has crossed the McCain camp's mind.

Another guy on nearly every GOP candidate's list was Haley Barbour, and I'm sure McCain has given it some thought. I'd be fine with it, though
I'd prefer someone with a future.

Perhaps the latest developing sleeper is Bobby Jindal, and I like that idea a lot. I met Gov. Jindal for the first time a month or two ago in DC, and it certainly crossed my mind then.

[PhiGam]

Charlie Crist is the man... that is all

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Rick Perry- Not necessarily ideal, but I'd be comfortable with it. He was mentioned by insiders w/ the Giuliani campaign, so I'm sure it has crossed the McCain camp's mind.

Being from Texas, I really dislike this guy. Hell, I voted for Kinky Friedman in our last election, haha.

[nittanyalum]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Not sure if you were asking me, but I'd like to see Romney for personal motivation reasons. I am simply not at all fond of McCain as a politician, and Romney on the ticket would bring a little more excitement to the cycle for me. I think Romney is even more favored now than he was while in the hunt, and I think his "goodbye" speech made a lot of his GOP opponents feel pretty stupid. I love elections, and I'd really like to be at least partially advocating FOR something, and not just against Barack/Hillary.

After that, there aren't too many suggestions that thrill me.

I like Lieberman as a human, but we've already got one compromiser heading up the GOP side.

Charlie Crist is interesting, but I don't know enough about him, and the base doesn't trust him.

Mark Sanford is a guy I like, but his place as a future star seems to be in question now.

Mike Huckabee would be a horrid pick, IMO. He simply brings no skills to the table (not that the VP needs them), and although it would calm some of the base, it'd scare the moderates. I also found his final days as a candidate to be incredibly petty (notably: taking a shot at Romney AFTER Romney had dropped out).

Rick Perry- Not necessarily ideal, but I'd be comfortable with it. He was mentioned by insiders w/ the Giuliani campaign, so I'm sure it has crossed the McCain camp's mind.

Another guy on nearly every GOP candidate's list was Haley Barbour, and I'm sure McCain has given it some thought. I'd be fine with it, though
I'd prefer someone with a future.

Perhaps the latest developing sleeper is Bobby Jindal, and I like that idea a lot. I met Gov. Jindal for the first time a month or two ago in DC, and it certainly crossed my mind then.

Originally Posted by PhiGam

Charlie Crist is the man... that is all

Originally Posted by macallan25

Being from Texas, I really dislike this guy. Hell, I voted for Kinky Friedman in our last election, haha.

What about Tim Pawlenty from MN? He'd bring youth, a stake in the flyover states, he's always been stalwart in his support of McCain...