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DaemonSeid 03-18-2008 05:31 PM

McCain shows his 'foreign expertise' in Jordan
 
By Cameron W. Barr and Michael D. Shear
AMMAN, Jordan -- Sen. John McCain, traveling in the Middle East to promote his foreign policy expertise, misidentified in remarks Tuesday which broad category of Iraqi extremists are allegedly receiving support from Iran.

He said several times that Iran, a predominately Shiite country, was supplying the mostly Sunni militant group, al-Qaeda. In fact, officials have said they believe Iran is helping Shiite extremists in Iraq.

Speaking to reporters in Amman, the Jordanian capital, McCain said he and two Senate colleagues traveling with him continue to be concerned about Iranian operatives "taking al-Qaeda into Iran, training them and sending them back."

Pressed to elaborate, McCain said it was "common knowledge and has been reported in the media that al-Qaeda is going back into Iran and receiving training and are coming back into Iraq from Iran, that's well known. And it's unfortunate." A few moments later, Sen. Joseph Lieberman, standing just behind McCain, stepped forward and whispered in the presidential candidate's ear. McCain then said: "I'm sorry, the Iranians are training extremists, not al-Qaeda."

The mistake threatened to undermine McCain's argument that his decades of foreign policy experience make him the natural choice to lead a country at war with terrorists. In recent days, McCain has repeatedly said his intimate knowledge of foreign policy makes him the best equipped to answer a phone ringing in the White House late at night.

McCain was in Jordan leading a week-long congressional delegation and has stressed that the trip was not political, despite the decision to hold a fundraiser in London later this week.

But advisers said a side benefit from the trip would be the image of McCain standing next to world leaders and showing his expertise on issues of war and terrorism.

The U.S. has long asserted that elements of the Iranian security forces have been training and supplying weapons to Iraq's Shiite militias. Iran is an overwhelmingly Shiite country whose government has applauded the emergence of a Shiite-led government in Iraq but has denied supporting Shiite militias inside Iraq.



http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-t..._jordan_1.html


Well, there is your foreign experience for you.

At one time he called Asians gooks, now he doesn't know who is funding whom...smh.

Pat Robertson's visions may come true yet.



So....who do you want answering that phone at 3am?

PhiGam 03-18-2008 06:13 PM

http://triplehelix.wordpress.com/200...a-is-an-idiot/

DaemonSeid 03-18-2008 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by PhiGam (Post 1619847)

I post a legit news report and all you can come up with is a blog?


gosh you are lame.

shinerbock 03-18-2008 06:32 PM

I certainly don't want Barack Obama answering that phone.

Sorry, but if you can't acknowledge where the threats to America originate, then I certainly don't trust you to protect us.

DaemonSeid 03-18-2008 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1619858)
I certainly don't want Barack Obama answering that phone.

Sorry, but if you can't acknowledge where the threats to America originate, then I certainly don't trust you to protect us.

Shiner...I respect that opinion....I also feel like I dont want me leader going somewhere and misquoting wrong information especially when they are AT thier doorstep selling themselves.



Kinda like we 'knew' where the WMDs were

shinerbock 03-18-2008 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1619860)
Shiner...I respect that opinion....I also feel like I dont want me leader going somewhere and misquoting wrong information especially when they are AT thier doorstep selling themselves.



Kinda like we 'knew' where the WMDs were

Then I guess you can disqualify anyone involved in American, British, Australian or Israeli intelligence from candidacy.

DaemonSeid 03-18-2008 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1619864)
Then I guess you can disqualify anyone involved in American, British, Australian or Israeli intelligence from candidacy.

Yup...'fraid so


"Intelligence"...an oxymoron at times....

moe.ron 03-18-2008 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock (Post 1619864)
Then I guess you can disqualify anyone involved in American, British, Australian or Israeli intelligence from candidacy.

To go back:

British intelligence plagiarized a 3 years old doctoral thesis as their case for war.

Australian intelligence presented exactly the same case as the Americans, they have no intelligence presence whatsoever inside Iraq

American intelligence was at best speculative, but Rumsfeld and Cheney decided to silence those who question the assessment for the war.

Overall, it was a major intelligence failure which has never been truly investigated.

DaemonSeid 03-18-2008 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moe.ron (Post 1620017)
To go back:

British intelligence plagiarized a 3 years old doctoral thesis as their case for war.

Australian intelligence presented exactly the same case as the Americans, they have no intelligence presence whatsoever inside Iraq

American intelligence was at best speculative, but Rumsfeld and Cheney decided to silence those who question the assessment for the war.

Overall, it was a major intelligence failure which has never been truly investigated.



the video BTW

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=topnews

nittanyalum 03-18-2008 11:13 PM

Ok, I'm also not a McCain voter, but I'll say this, dude's old. I actually don't question his foreign policy or military expertise, but, he's old. And the mind may be going, so he may misspeak. Happens to old people. Just sayin'.

moe.ron 03-18-2008 11:22 PM

Yeah, McCain probably had a slip of the tongue. Happen to everybody. Happen to me a lot.

skylark 03-18-2008 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by PhiGam (Post 1619847)

The author of this blog actually said:
Quote:

One thing is for sure: Barack Obama is a total and complete idiot
It is one thing to say you disagree with someone but another to say that someone who was at the top of his law school class at one of the best law schools in the country and has went on to excel in politics "is a total and complete idiot." When someone says something like that (or links to a blog with implied approval) I think less of them and everything I see them write. PhiGam... a little less linking and a little more thinking for yourself would be appreciated, for a change.

DaemonSeid 03-18-2008 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by nittanyalum (Post 1620025)
Ok, I'm also not a McCain voter, but I'll say this, dude's old. I actually don't question his foreign policy or military expertise, but, he's old. And the mind may be going, so he may misspeak. Happens to old people. Just sayin'.

nittany....let's give him the benefit of that doubt aabout the old thing, still,would someone want to have to worry about a slip like that with an important ally or an enemy we are trying to make into an ally?

nittanyalum 03-18-2008 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemonSeid (Post 1620048)
nittany....let's give him the benefit of that doubt aabout the old thing, still,would someone want to have to worry about a slip like that with an important ally or an enemy we are trying to make into an ally?

Oh, I'm not defending or endorsing him, I'm just saying, dude's old. And to be fair, we've had 8 years of someone who can barely form a coherent sentence and has made more gaffes than the Keystone Cops, so I actually believe that even as old and possibly-headed-toward-feeblemindedness as he is, McCain would still be an improvement over what we have been living with.

DaemonSeid 03-18-2008 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by nittanyalum (Post 1620053)
Oh, I'm not defending or endorsing him, I'm just saying, dude's old. And to be fair, we've had 8 years of someone who can barely form a coherent sentence and has made more gaffes than the Keystone Cops, so I actually believe that even as old and possibly-headed-toward-feeblemindedness as he is, McCain would still be an improvement over what we have been living with.

that scares me...


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