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01-02-2008, 03:19 PM
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I agree.
At the Dunkin' Donuts near my house, there is a sign inside that says something along the lines of "Please do not tip the workers." Yet they still have their tip jars by the register (and drive-thru).
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Re the tip jars - they make me LESS likely to tip. Especially when they're at places like Subway where I know damn well the staff isn't working for tips (i.e. they're making minimum or better). It's presumptuous & intrusive.
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01-02-2008, 03:21 PM
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All this about the take-out from Applebee's, Ruby Tuesday's etc...count me as another person who never tips in that situation, and I'm not a cheapskate. I honestly had no idea wait staff had ANY hand in that, and I'm betting most of the public doesn't either. That's shitty that they're made to include that in the things they're doing - especially since the restaurants are REALLY pushing it lately.
Re the tip jars - they make me LESS likely to tip. Especially when they're at places like Subway where I know damn well the staff isn't working for tips (i.e. they're making minimum or better). It's presumptuous & intrusive.
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When it comes to take out, I tip occasionally. I never really figured wait staff did much but bag it up and bring it to the counter so I didn't think a tip was really necessary. As for tip jars, the sushi chefs have their own and I am never sure if they get tip share so I try to tip them separately from the waitress in that situation. But what's with Cold Stone having a tip line on their receipts and a tip jar? The people at my Cold Stone don't sing and I'm sure they get paid a regular hourly wage - so what's the tip for?
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01-02-2008, 03:22 PM
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Quote:
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Re the tip jars - they make me LESS likely to tip. Especially when they're at places like Subway where I know damn well the staff isn't working for tips (i.e. they're making minimum or better). It's presumptuous & intrusive.
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It kills me when they have them at Starbucks et al...I'm already paying $4 for a damn cup of coffee, I'm not making it $5.
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01-02-2008, 03:48 PM
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I don't tip in tip jar unless I am at a bar (which is pretty rare lately). It used to crack me up to watch my brother getting ready for the evening crowd at the bar he worked at-- he would always put a few dollars of his own money in the tip jar to start it out.
As for tipping for takeout- usually when I have picked it up it is the hostess or manager that brings me my food, and both of them should make minimum wage, so I don't tip. If it was a server, I will add a couple dollars as a tip, but not 20%.
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01-02-2008, 04:57 PM
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Quote:
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Re the tip jars - they make me LESS likely to tip. Especially when they're at places where I know damn well the staff isn't working for tips. It's presumptuous & intrusive.
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Amen!
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It kills me when they have them at Starbucks et al...I'm already paying $4 for a damn cup of coffee, I'm not making it $5.
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You took the words right out of my mouth! But you know what, I used to go into Starbucks once or twice a week and I'd see the same workers and they knew my face and my favorite drinks and were always so friendly that it would make me feel guilty not to tip.  So I'd usually throw some change in even though the whole idea irked me.
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01-02-2008, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 33girl
All this about the take-out from Applebee's, Ruby Tuesday's etc...count me as another person who never tips in that situation, and I'm not a cheapskate. I honestly had no idea wait staff had ANY hand in that, and I'm betting most of the public doesn't either. That's shitty that they're made to include that in the things they're doing - especially since the restaurants are REALLY pushing it lately.
Re the tip jars - they make me LESS likely to tip. Especially when they're at places like Subway where I know damn well the staff isn't working for tips (i.e. they're making minimum or better). It's presumptuous & intrusive.
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That's what I tell servers when they get pissed. A lot of people don't know to tip on carry outs. I don't think it's shitty to make them do it. They're still serving the public. In some restaurants, the manager is busy catering to servers needs (helping them run food, putting in food comps, gift certificates, helping keep things filled in the back if the servers are too busy to) so it has to go on the servers.
I understand though that people don't know what exactly goes on behind the scenes at a restaurant. I had no clue about any of this before getting in the business. The only reason I knew to tip on carry outs was because of my friends who were servers. Once you're in the business, you become a lot more sympathetic to those who do it.
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...But what's with Cold Stone having a tip line on their receipts and a tip jar? The people at my Cold Stone don't sing and I'm sure they get paid a regular hourly wage - so what's the tip for? 
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I'm not gona lie. I only tip at Cold Stone because I'm sure the teenagers hate doing the song and dance and I think it's funny to have to make them do it.
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01-02-2008, 09:51 PM
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I'm not gona lie. I only tip at Cold Stone because I'm sure the teenagers hate doing the song and dance and I think it's funny to have to make them do it.
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haha my BFF in high school LOVED working at Coldstone and loved singing the dumb tip songs even more! it is quite hilarious...
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12-28-2007, 05:22 PM
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Most of the time if it was a small mistake (like if I ask for no onions and it comes back with onions) I will just fix it myself (e.g. take the onions off) and eat it.
There was only one time in my entire life that I've had to send something back.....
My then-bf and I were driving around with a specific place in mind, and passed a seafood restaurant on our way. He said he was in the mood for seafood, so we went ahead and thought we'd give that place a try. I was sort of new to the area and hadn't heard anything about that place yet.
It was a Saturday night at 8 pm and we didn't have a wait.. and there were plenty of empty tables which should have been our first clue, but we ordered an appetizer, some drinks and entrees anyway.
When our dinner came, I was appalled. The crab tasted old, and the fish did not even look like they even bothered to properly prepare it. I couldn't eat any of it. The chef came out and assured us that was the way the entrees were supposed to be prepared and I asked them to please take the entree away and asked for some more tortilla chips.
They only charged us for the appetizer and our drinks (the then-bf didn't eat his entree either) which was nice, but I will never ever ever go to that place again... and I tell everyone to never eat there.... and just in case you have one in your area, I wouldn't reccommend Rockfish to even my worst enemies
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12-28-2007, 05:41 PM
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So, basicaly never go back and let all of your friends know about them. A kiss of death for a joint!
Stopped at a McDonalds on the road home. Odered a Double cheese burger and no onions as make me sick!
Well, hooking down the highway, ate the onions, was sick the whole weekend at my folks!
Next time I stopped by there and told them! Nada.!!!!!
Never went back since!
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12-28-2007, 08:33 PM
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So, basicaly never go back and let all of your friends know about them. A kiss of death for a joint!
Stopped at a McDonalds on the road home. Odered a Double cheese burger and no onions as make me sick!
Well, hooking down the highway, ate the onions, was sick the whole weekend at my folks!
Next time I stopped by there and told them! Nada.!!!!!
Never went back since!
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Tom,
A truckload of Vadalias are on their way.
And, stay away from McD's
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01-02-2008, 02:04 AM
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Most of the time if it was a small mistake (like if I ask for no onions and it comes back with onions) I will just fix it myself (e.g. take the onions off) and eat it.
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The other night when I was out to dinner with girlfriends, my dish came out with red onions and a ton of jalepenos on top as garnish. I absolutely hate red onions, and I can't handle jalepenos like that. I removed them from the food and had to put them on my bread plate, which I don't appreciate having to do in a restaurant. So when the waiter came over a few minutes later, I kindly suggested to him that they should not just "garnish" the top of food with things not included on the menu. Especially not with onions, which many people are allergic to (on the side of the dish would've been ok, but this was across the whole top of the food). In this case, the server seemed to really appreciate my suggestion due to the food allergies their customers may have.
It is a huge pet peeve of mine when the meal I ordered comes out with extra or different main ingrediants than what is described on the menu. After all, I decide which dish to order based on the description in the menu!
Servers should see these comments as ultimately helping save their jobs. If many dishes have to be re-done every night, that's a lot of inventory the restaurant is going through for no profit. MOST restaurants will fail...they don't need help from inattentive chefs and servers. If I'm spending my money to have someone cook and serve me a meal, I expect the server to record my order correctly, the chef to cook it to order, and the server to ensure that what they deliver to me is in fact what they sent up to the kitchen. If I ask for no avacado and tomatoes on my salad, I expect the server to notice the mistake if my salad comes out with tomatoes and avacados. That is what they're being paid for...it's pretty much the totality of their job!
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12-29-2007, 01:58 PM
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Exactly-I always tip better than 15%, but that doesn't mean I have to do so. I'm certainly not going to tip with money if the service is bad. I might give them a tip--like learn how to do your job.
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12-29-2007, 02:35 PM
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It all depends on the service for me. Piss poor tip for piss poor service. Average tip for average service. Great tip for great service. It's not rocket science.
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12-29-2007, 04:20 PM
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It all depends on the service for me. Piss poor tip for piss poor service. Average tip for average service. Great tip for great service. It's not rocket science.
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Of course not.
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12-29-2007, 08:33 PM
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What? You mean income tax? Unless they're TEH DUMB, most servers only claim tips up to what would make min. wage. And if you can't make min. wage in tips, you're pretty bad at your job.
If your restaurant claims tips for waitresses based on a % of the bills, that's pretty shitty.
*I've never worked for a restaurant that accepts credit cards but...*
Credit card tips seem like they'd be easier to "trace" and force the server to claim all of their tips. Which means you end up paying a shitload more income tax out of your base pay.
And servers don't make a standard min. wage, but it IS required that if a server isn't making the difference between their base pay and min. wage in tips, the restaurant has to make up the difference.
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I was talking about credit card tips... although they are SUPPOSED to claim their cash tips too, I've never heard of a server at any restaurant claiming them.
I thought Michigan has a standard server minimum wage and it's 2.65?
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