vaccinate your kids, or else!! - Page 4

AlphaFrog · #1 11-26-2007, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pope

Or, abstinence until married (and of course, it is necessary to be counseled before the marriage, just to be sure that both parties are up for the challenge, including the challenge of parenting).

Not that Brit-Brit was counseled before marriage - but she was married when she had both of her children...

SydneyK · #2 11-26-2007, 12:16 PM

Yahoo! headlines has a video up now about Tamiflu causing adverse reactions in children - reactions including self-injury and hallucination! I can't post a link because it's a video, but I'll keep looking. It's from CNN, so it shouldn't be too hard to find.

I realize Tamiflu isn't a vaccine, but it's just one more case where, even prescribed doses of medicine are posing serious risks to children.

ETA: Here's a link from CNN. It isn't the video, but this may be better anyway:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/condi....ap/index.html

nittanyalum · #3 11-26-2007, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Pope

(and of course, it is necessary to be counseled before the marriage, just to be sure that both parties are up for the challenge, including the challenge of parenting).

Yes, "counseled" by a man who has taken a vow of celibacy and has never nor will ever (supposedly) experience either...

Drolefille · #4 11-26-2007, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by nittanyalum

Yes, "counseled" by a man who has taken a vow of celibacy and has never nor will ever (supposedly) experience either...

Actually many Catholic dioceses have peer pre-marital counseling. My parents were part of our diocese's Pre-Cana program.

Also, in learning to be a counselor, I've learned it isn't necessary to have experienced everything that your clients have to be able to counsel them. You are not making decisions for your clients, but helping them to process their issues, concerns, etc.

DeltAlum · #5 11-26-2007, 01:27 PM

All of my kids are grown and out of the house, but I had a flu shot today. Does that count?

nikki1920 · #6 11-26-2007, 02:06 PM

So what was the point of the vaccine for children, especially?

ISUKappa · #7 11-26-2007, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by nikki1920

So what was the point of the vaccine for children, especially?

People who throw "Pox Parties" wonder the same thing. I suppose it gives some parents the peace of mind. It does potentially prevent an annoying disease, anyway. But then kids won't have super cool chicken pox scars to show off anymore.

I'm reading on the CDC varicella website that 2 doses are now recommended to provide "immunity", but IMO the vaccine hasn't been around long enough (only since 1995) to determine that yet.

ForeverRoses · #8 11-26-2007, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ISUKappa

People who throw "Pox Parties" wonder the same thing. I suppose it gives some parents the peace of mind. It does potentially prevent an annoying disease, anyway. But then kids won't have super cool chicken pox scars to show off anymore.

I'm reading on the CDC varicella website that 2 doses are now recommended to provide "immunity", but IMO the vaccine hasn't been around long enough (only since 1995) to determine that yet.

So what is a "pox party"?

AlphaFrog · #9 11-26-2007, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ForeverRoses

So what is a "pox party"?

If one kid in the neighborhood/school/etc gets Chicken Pox, they throw them in a room with all the kids who haven't had Chicken Pox so they spread it around. It sounds odd, but actually getting the Chicken Pox as a kid is much less dangerous than when you're an adult. Plus, it prevents you from needing the vac.

MysticCat · #10 11-26-2007, 04:09 PM

^^^^ And the group of friends/playmates all get it overwith at the same time.

ISUKappa · #11 03-26-2008, 03:44 PM

I know if my son was in any way sick, even with a small cold, I could ask my Ped to wait on the vaxes for a few weeks until he was better becuase I had concerns about his immune system being overloaded. I did it more than once, actually. Our Ped had no issue with waiting a few weeks, nor did he have any issue with spreading them out. Again, the responsibilities fall to the parents to do the research and decide what is best for their children, but also take the general population into account.

And I definitely think vaccines have helped greatly diminish diseases that in the past were extremely devastating, crippling and/or fatal (polio, anyone?).

I also feel confident there is constant research and updating being done on vaccines and they are altered accordingly to need.