Huge problem with transfering into a new chapter...HELP!!

[giggle528]

Originally Posted by adpiucf

If the sorority never sent in any initiation paperwork to their HQ on you or your pledge sisters, then none of you are initiated members. The initiation was not conducted with the consent of HQ. If simply going through the initiation ceremony would make you a member of ABC, we wouldn't need chartered chapters and "underground chapters" could operate.

If, however, HQ, processed your initiation paperwork from scratch (and why they would take you at your word as being a member without any verification from the chapter is beyond me!), then your paperwork is filed, and you are an initiated member.

Contact your chapter adviser from the former university and talk to her. Get a hold of those transfer forms, even if that is not your duty. Fill them out and flap where signatures are needed. Mail the forms to the chapter president via certified mail and include a self-addressed-stamped envelope so she has an easy method to send it back.

You need to stay on top of this with phone calls, and in-person meetings as much as possible. Email is not a reliable form of communication from which to gain a response, except to serve as a paper trail.

There is no guarantee that the chapter at the new campus will accept your transfer, nor that you will like the chapter at the new campus, even if the paperwork is processed.

Good luck. Make this a priority if it is important to you.

THANKK YOUU!!! someone understandds! according to HQ like a week ago, i was in their database as "on hold" meaning that to them i have not been initiated. i was not an ABC according to HQ. thats what i was saying before, that i was going to cancel all my checks and have my chapter throw away my stuff, because at that point my mom wanted me out of it anyways. but i finally just called HQ fusterated that my prez wasnt doing her job, so they did the paperwork for me, and sent it over to my new campus. it is here now..as of yesterday(and i asked my prez to do this...ohh i dunno...beginning of Julyy)so now i am just waiting for them to e-mail me back inviting me to meet them.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally Posted by giggle528

THANKK YOUU!!! someone understandds! according to HQ like a week ago, i was in their database as "on hold" meaning that to them i have not been initiated. i was not an ABC according to HQ. thats what i was saying before, that i was going to cancel all my checks and have my chapter throw away my stuff, because at that point my mom wanted me out of it anyways. but i finally just called HQ fusterated that my prez wasnt doing her job, so they did the paperwork for me, and sent it over to my new campus. it is here now..as of yesterday(and i asked my prez to do this...ohh i dunno...beginning of Julyy)so now i am just waiting for them to e-mail me back inviting me to meet them.

So why start this thread??

Also,
CAN YOU PLEASE TAKE MORE TIME WITH YOUR POSTS, THEY ARE HARD TO READ. THANK YOU.

[giggle528]

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

Also,
CAN YOU PLEASE TAKE MORE TIME WITH YOUR POSTS, THEY ARE HARD TO READ. THANK YOU.

...if you dont like them..then dont read them

[LegallyBrunette]

Originally Posted by giggle528

...if you dont like them..then dont read them

You have recieved some excellent advice as to how to proceed and I wish you the best. That being said, AlphaFrog's comment is also good advice. Poor proofreading, whether in a paper for school, communication with your org, or simply on a message board, takes away from what you're trying to say and is quite distracting.

[tld221]

Originally Posted by giggle528

THANKK YOUU!!! someone understandds! according to HQ like a week ago, i was in their database as "on hold" meaning that to them i have not been initiated. i was not an ABC according to HQ. thats what i was saying before, that i was going to cancel all my checks and have my chapter throw away my stuff, because at that point my mom wanted me out of it anyways. but i finally just called HQ fusterated that my prez wasnt doing her job, so they did the paperwork for me, and sent it over to my new campus. it is here now..as of yesterday(and i asked my prez to do this...ohh i dunno...beginning of Julyy)so now i am just waiting for them to e-mail me back inviting me to meet them.

Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

So why start this thread??

Also,
CAN YOU PLEASE TAKE MORE TIME WITH YOUR POSTS, THEY ARE HARD TO READ. THANK YOU.

Originally Posted by giggle528

...if you dont like them..then dont read them

i know im SO swervin in yall lane, but seriously, you said yourself that HQ didnt have you down as being an XYZ. i dunno, do HQs usually just "do paperwork" for PNMs like that at the busiest time of (NPC) sorority year?

and kudos on your mom wanting you out of the sorority. and bigger kudos on wanting to throw all your para away. i bet you make a great sister.

i jus feel like there's more to the story - why WOULDNT a chapter send papers to HQ if they initiated you?

(and for my own knowledge, i recall from some retro thread, that when you transfer from State U to U State College as an XYZ, that it is very possible you may not become affiliated because of quotas, chapter fit and what not?)

[LegallyBrunette]

Originally Posted by tld221

i jus feel like there's more to the story - why WOULDNT a chapter send papers to HQ if they initiated you?

It sounds like her original chapter might not be on top of paperwork. Even in chapters that are, it can take a while (at least from my experience) for everything to process. For example, I was initiated in December, but didn't recieve my badge & certificate until the middle of the following semester.

[cuteASAbug]

Originally Posted by tld221

i jus feel like there's more to the story - why WOULDNT a chapter send papers to HQ if they initiated you?

I can speak from personal experience. I don't know what it's like for the giggles' sorority, but in ASA, after you're initiated, the chapter has to send in a form to national headquarters that says your date of initiation, your chapter number, full name to appear on certificate, address, etc. It doesn't seem like a big deal at all, but you have to keep in mind that initiation is usually done at the end of the semester, right before finals and term papers are due. If your president has a test in two days that's worth 40% of her grade, sending out paperwork for the new initiates just isn't a priority at that moment. Plus, it's not always that easy to track down all of the girls and get them to fill out all of the paperwork. It took a while for us to get it done and there were only 9 other girls initiated with me. Imagine what it must be like with a new member class of 35+.

[epchick]

Originally Posted by tld221

i jus feel like there's more to the story - why WOULDNT a chapter send papers to HQ if they initiated you?

It might not be a matter of the paperwork not being sent, it might be a matter of processing. I initiated in the Fall quarter, and it wasn't until the Spring Quarter that I got my badge, my membership info/card, and my certificate. (We were told it takes about 2 quarters/1 semester to process all that info)

If the OP initiated in April it seems logical (at least to me) that she wouldn't have her badge or any of that other stuff.

But I dont know how other chapters handle stuff like that.

[tld221]

Originally Posted by LegallyBrunette

It sounds like her original chapter might not be on top of paperwork. Even in chapters that are, it can take a while (at least from my experience) for everything to process. For example, I was initiated in December, but didn't recieve my badge & certificate until the middle of the following semester.

Originally Posted by cuteASAbug

I can speak from personal experience. I don't know what it's like for the giggles' sorority, but in ASA, after you're initiated, the chapter has to send in a form to national headquarters that says your date of initiation, your chapter number, full name to appear on certificate, address, etc. It doesn't seem like a big deal at all, but you have to keep in mind that initiation is usually done at the end of the semester, right before finals and term papers are due. If your president has a test in two days that's worth 40% of her grade, sending out paperwork for the new initiates just isn't a priority at that moment. Plus, it's not always that easy to track down all of the girls and get them to fill out all of the paperwork. It took a while for us to get it done and there were only 9 other girls initiated with me. Imagine what it must be like with a new member class of 35+.

Originally Posted by epchick

It might not be a matter of the paperwork not being sent, it might be a matter of processing. I initiated in the Fall quarter, and it wasn't until the Spring Quarter that I got my badge, my membership info/card, and my certificate. (We were told it takes about 2 quarters/1 semester to process all that info)

If the OP initiated in April it seems logical (at least to me) that she wouldn't have her badge or any of that other stuff.

But I dont know how other chapters handle stuff like that.

ok, point taken. hell, my HQ goes through the same ish. carry on.

[giggle528]

i guess it just varies from chapter to chapter on who handles the paperwork. when i called HQ for the first time when the lady told me that I hadnt been initiated according to HQ and their database, she was like "hmm nor have they sent in your badge forms, and member cards..ill have to give your prez a call" she didnt seem to happy. We filled out all our cards and things during the week of initation, and they said that we would recieve our pins at the first meeting. my sisters havent gotten them yet.
Personally, i just think that my chapter is very irresponsible, because all my sisters complain about how unorganized things are.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by texas*princess

1. You cannot join another sorority.
2. Is there really a reason your mom is involved? You're a big girl.
3. Paperwork takes a long time to get processed. Your HQ has to process the initiation paperwork on every single girl that went through the new member process last year. Be patient. Technically you are a member of this sorority whether they have gotten around to sending you your pin or not.
4. If your president is not being responsive contact the chapter advisor. If they are not responsive, try the regional director.
5. The "Greek LIfe people" are not the advisors. They are merely the people who work at the desk in the Greek Life office. The chapter advisors are the alumnae volunteers that advise your individual chapter.

Well said.

OP, if you are showing the attitude to the group that you are showing here, it's really no wonder than people aren't willing to help you. Let's be honest, would your group on your new campus have the impression that you are eager to be an asset to their chapter and assist them, or that you are kind of a high maintenance, demanding person who sees herself as entitled to service from the group and who relies on her mom to handle her issues.

And yes, if your are going through the national HQ, the new chapter may be aware of how you are acting.

Further, depending on the chapter and the group, your transfer into the new chapter may not be automatic, and you could really be shooting yourself in the foot.

And I happen to think that if you had your membership in your group on facebook, that yes, people at the new school are going to remember and look into the situation further. I doubt it's as simple as re-rushing. You know you've been initiated; your old chapter knows you've been initiated. There's no way you could be a good member of a NPC group if you would disregard such a basic element of membership.

Quit acting like the group revolves around you. It's a shame they didn't send in the paper work faster and provide you with better "customer" service, seeing as that seems to be how you see your role in the group.

[giggle528]

ok, i dont want the group revolve around me. HQ wasnt happy at my prez either...it wasnt just my mom and I. As i've posted before, NO I WILL NOT RE-RUSH because now papers are at this new school. and i now know whats going to happen next. Its my right to stay on top of it, it was her job to do it, and SHE NEVER DID IT...i was patient waiting for her to do it, I would e-mail her asking if she had filled it out. I never got a response from her, but then the next day i would get an e-mail from her saying "Hi ladies, schools starting, greek life is letting us help freshman move in, etc, etc" but i never got an answer from her whether or not she filled it out. so i assumed she was ignoring it, because she wasnt even giving me an answer as to whether she filled it out or not. so i called HQ and they did it before me like i said before.

you would be on top of something like this too if u were in my position...

[UGAalum94]

Um, no. While I would be interested in expediting the process, I would understand that formal recruitment season and the start of school wasn't really the time to be getting my mommy to call my IHQ.

And had you not mentioned your interest in re-rushing, I'd be a lot more sympathetic, but really your posts make clear what your priorities are: you, you, and more you. And a GLO might not find that so charming in an affiliate member.

Remember that although you feel a great sense of urgency about affiliating, it's really not going to kill you to wait until it get straightened out.

[giggle528]

well now its all straightened out..and im waiting.

[LOVEinZTA]

Originally Posted by giggle528

but my old prez told me that i have the upperhand, since im already a member of ABC. is that true? and the transfer lady at HQ told me that they kinda have to accept me, and that to her knowledge no one has ever been denied even if they are at total.

um NO NO and NO!
It is COMPLETELY possible for a chapter to not accept a transfer student. It doesn't happen often, but there are extreme circumstances, and it seems like you appear to be creating some. In that case, the transfer is granted early alumna status.

I say this all only because A) I DID transfer chapters B) We DID have one girl the chapter didn't take and C) I'm now the person in charge of helping transfers reaffiliate. Paperwork takes a REALLY LONG TIME. I sent the paperwork to HQ and my old chapter in April and by late OCTOBER it still wasn't done, so quit complaining. I had little to no contact with our transfers through this summer and recruitment. Let the poor chapter get their new members and then they'll take care of you - they have WAY too much on their plate right now! If by 2 weeks after recruitment you still haven't heard back from someone, then you can start getting on to people. They know you're there and TRUST ME, at this point it sounds like it would be impossible for them to forget you.

I have a few questions: If you hated your old school so much and didn't get along with the girls in your chapter, then what makes you think sorority life is going to be different at your new school? Why do you want to be involved? Does it have anything to do with the fact that "Greek life is so big" at your new school?

And please, for the love of Greekdom, learn to write properly. You're not 15 anymore and if you haven't learned at least semi-proper English you surely shouldn't be in college. /rant