Your Thoughts: Day Without Immigrants-Boycott

[_Opi_]

Originally posted by Wonderful1908
I truly believe in karma, what goes around comes around.

Co-sign.

Originally posted by Starang21
giving the undocumented immigrants all amnesty is a slap in the face of every single naturalized american citizen in the country.

Co-sign.

I can understand both sides of the debate. But to be quite honest, I do see the need to control the borders for security purposes and enforcing the law (because I know how hard it is to get proper documentation) and all the good stuff. But I still think this country was formed based on Illegal immigration. The land still doesn't belong to its rightful owners..but I digress..

[HXNUPE3]

Originally posted by Wonderful1908
(Soror this reply is to the thread not you, I was just quoting you because I agree with some of what your saying)

.... solution is not complainig about these people wanting a free handout, please I am sure that based on only my experiences that I'd rather Jose's kids get WIC, while he works 16 hours a day than Sally Sue trailer trash who smokes Marlboros all day with no job. Please people where are these jobs immiigrants have we as Americans want? I don't want to clean a house, fix a roof or prepare Big Macs, yes as an American I do not want to do those things, period.

The problem is that Sally Sue and Jose both d not deserve the aid they get. Where are the jobs illegals are taking once held by Americans? Masonary, concrete, carpentry, factory work, meat packing, chemical batching, surveying, plumbing,transportation warehousing, assembly,... in fact every where except enginnering, medicine, and jobs which require citizenship. Yet even though employers overhead costs go down, we don't see the savings passed on to the public; what we see instead in a steady erosion of over taxed schools and health care system that has to pay for illegals who don't pay taxes. Its time for them to go.

[KSigkid]

Originally posted by starang21
giving the undocumented immigrants all amnesty is a slap in the face of every single naturalized american citizen in the country.

I agree - so many have gone the legal route; it's not easy, but they've done it.

There wasn't much of a protest in Boston, not nearly as large in numbers as I thought. The biggest protest of the day was dealing with a union issue at Harvard.

[mccoyred]

Originally posted by Wonderful1908

At any rate I think that the process of becoming a citizen is the problem. It is this process of coming here and truly wanting a better life and having to go through red tape to get it. Give me a break I don't care what anybody types, this country will be eventually majority Hispanic in our lifetime.

I agree a country of immigrants can't choose and pick whom they want, they tried that with the Irish and that did not work, its about being organized for your cause and that is something that these immigrants are doing a damn good job of. Sometimes you have to just publizize your case to make change.....

It amazes me that people are like the law is the law, so that means people shouldn't get out there and try to change it. Wasn't segregation once illegal? Wasn't interracial marriage once illegal? Surely these people who took to the streets were once is a similiar boat as many of the peope in history who want change. I think the thing that disturbs everybody is that they are ORGANIZED and you know deep down they will eventually get reforms in their favor, I mean think about it, how can any judge, governor, senator, or anybody in power say sorry we are reforming the process to make it harder to be a citizen? When its all said and one it will be only easier.....

I think the laws should be the same for ALL immigrants and I think that ALL immigrants should follow the law. However, don't think that it should be easy because anything worth having is worth fighting for. The fact that the immigrant population is organized and fighting for reform is a good thing BUT the illegals need to get it together and follow whatever legislative changes are put in place; I do NOT agree with legalizing immigrants just because they made it here.

[AlphaFrog]

Originally posted by mccoyred
I think the laws should be the same for ALL immigrants and I think that ALL immigrants should follow the law. However, don't think that it should be easy because anything worth having is worth fighting for. The fact that the immigrant population is organized and fighting for reform is a good thing BUT the illegals need to get it together and follow whatever legislative changes are put in place; I do NOT agree with legalizing immigrants just because they made it here.

I agree that the process to become a citizen shouldn't necessarily be easy by any means, but it should be more accessible to the "common person". When you have to hire an attorney to complete the process, I believe it is way to complicated, and it puts it out of reach for many people.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by wrigley
If someone can afford the price of a airline ticket and a passport from their country of origin to get here, all they have to do is overstay on their visas. I'm not aware of there being enough peoplepower to track everyone of them down. I still can't bring myself to see the 9/11 movie.

Isn't it a felony in Mexico if you're caught entering the country illegally? Why can't the U.S. do the same? Is it a felony if you enter Canada illegally?

Aside from being documented entering the country? Whether you overstay your visa or just don't go back home, you're now documented as having broken the law. As opposed to Mexicans who don't exactly sign documents when they come in. Yes, there probably isn't enough manpower to track them if they come from another continent even, but there are so many illegal Mexicans here for a reason.

And to the person that said this is Karma: Karma for whom? Maybe it's karma to blacks? Maybe it's karma to descendants of native americans? Maybe it's karma to such a large population of America that came here as immigrants in the last century? Or is it karma for people who had ancestors that did the wrongs and somehow it got passed down? If it were the case that karma got passed down like that, I don't know of a single population that wouldn't be screwed at this point.

Which country just opens their doors and tells people to come in?

Should we just let everyone from Mexico in and leave Mexico empty?

I learned the language here and got an American citizenship. I pay my taxes (high taxes I might add) and contribute to this country. It is beyond a slap in the face to tell me that all my efforts were for naught as I could have just come here in a crowded van wearing a sombrero without papers and gone about my business.

-Rudey

[Rudey]

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/04/us...rtner=homepage

"Growing Unease for Some Blacks on Immigration"

It's a good article worth the read.

-Rudey

[f8nacn]

My question is ...how are these illegal immigrants obtaining apartments, jobs, cars, etc....just curious...

[HXNUPE3]

Originally posted by f8nacn
My question is ...how are these illegal immigrants obtaining apartments, jobs, cars, etc....just curious...

Illegally with the help of some greedy unscrupulous citizens

[Honeykiss1974]

Originally posted by f8nacn
My question is ...how are these illegal immigrants obtaining apartments, jobs, cars, etc....just curious...

Because you have businesses/people that are willing to do business with them. All they see is **GREEN**

Plus their are loopholes. In most states, you don't need a liscense to buy a car (especially if you're paying cash),. Places like SallieMae, Freddie Mac and banks DO give out home loans to undocumented/illegal immigrants.

You'd be surprise......as they say, "money talks"

[Rudey]

Originally posted by f8nacn
My question is ...how are these illegal immigrants obtaining apartments, jobs, cars, etc....just curious...

La Raza.

-Rudey

[KSigkid]

Originally posted by f8nacn
My question is ...how are these illegal immigrants obtaining apartments, jobs, cars, etc....just curious...

Jobs are probably the easiest; there are plenty of business owners who are willing to pay small wages without insurance or any of the other costs. Employing an illegal immigrant is one way to do this.

[HXNUPE3]

Originally posted by Rudey
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/04/us...rtner=homepage

"Growing Unease for Some Blacks on Immigration"

It's a good article worth the read.

-Rudey

One point it missed was its not Immigration that has caused unease its ILLEGAL Immigration. The Times somehow fails to make the crucial distinction

[Steeltrap]

Originally posted by f8nacn
My question is ...how are these illegal immigrants obtaining apartments, jobs, cars, etc....just curious...

Out here in Kollyfornia, pooling money and sticking together pays off. It is not unusual to see Latinos, whether here legally or not, live two and three families to a residence so one fam can save money and branch out.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by HXNUPE3
One point it missed was its not Immigration that has caused unease its ILLEGAL Immigration. The Times somehow fails to distinction

This is true. I think people somehow keep forgetting that. It's as if once you oppose illegal immigration, people just think you oppose legal immigration as well.

-Rudey