Kappa Delta joins the Dove Campaign

[PiKA2001]

Originally posted by BobbyTheDon
We all know he's a fake Pike bro. And it was good that he's gone. He kept talking crazy talk about Pike this, Pike that, roids this, roids that, bang chicks this, bang this that. blah blah.

He was an idiot

Ha HA! Was cashmoney UF_Pike?

[33girl]

Originally posted by PiKA2001
Ha HA! Was cashmoney UF_Pike?

Yes.

[sunnydebs]

you can watch the commercial here
http://www.campaignforrealbeauty.com...ign_commercial

[Xylochick216]

It's a fabulous commercial. I think it's wonderful that Kappa Delta is getting involved.

[Contessima]

Originally posted by DSTCHAOS
[/B]
However, I have some issues with the Girl Scouts of America, in general. I know these programs are geared toward standards of beauty and the psychology behind it all. I just wonder if anyone has considered how all of this ties into gendered socialization and traditional gender roles. How much has the Girl Scouts changed in their practices? I haven't worked with them in 20 years. [/B]

Wow. Please EDUCATE yourself before you knock a wonderful organization like Girl Scouts. www.girlscouts.org

Twenty years ago was 1986 and I doubt that at that time Girl Scouts were promoting gendered socialization and traditional gender roles. If anything, Girl Scouts is typically far above other similar national programs (especially Boy Scouts, sorry guys) in promoting girls in sports, maths and sciences. The awards at ALL levels are to teach leadership, responsibility, and service. They are focused on career guidance and healthy self-images.

Just because you earned a cooking or sewing badge when you were eight years old does not mean you know anything about Girl Scouts or their program today.

I definately have a lot more to say on the issue, but I have class in eight minutes. Please take some time to explore the website, or hey, why not give your local council a call and see just what it is they do for girls and women?

[valkyrie]

In case this matters to anybody, Unilever tests on animals.

[alum]

Originally posted by Contessima
Wow. Please EDUCATE yourself before you knock a wonderful organization like Girl Scouts. www.girlscouts.org

Twenty years ago was 1986 and I doubt that at that time Girl Scouts were promoting gendered socialization and traditional gender roles. If anything, Girl Scouts is typically far above other similar national programs (especially Boy Scouts, sorry guys) in promoting girls in sports, maths and sciences. The awards at ALL levels are to teach leadership, responsibility, and service. They are focused on career guidance and healthy self-images.

Just because you earned a cooking or sewing badge when you were eight years old does not mean you know anything about Girl Scouts or their program today.

I definately have a lot more to say on the issue, but I have class in eight minutes. Please take some time to explore the website, or hey, why not give your local council a call and see just what it is they do for girls and women?

I agree 100% with Contessima. Girl Scouting has always been ahead of the game, molding our young girls into leaders of tomorrow. Every Interest Project Patch incorporates the areas of technology and career exploration. Even for the younger girls, service to the community and leadership roles are stressed. Through the Girl Scout Council of the Nation's Capital, our teen girls have the opportunity to intern in the US Senate or House of Representatives, or even in private industry. Other councils across the country have unique opportunities based on their localities.

Another GCer posted awhile ago on a different thread how her love of Girl Scouts developed into a love of all-women groups which of course led her to pledge a sorority in college. Apparently she is both an active volunteer as an alumna in her alumnae association and for the Scouts.

[Tippiechick]

Originally posted by alum
I agree 100% with Contessima. Girl Scouting has always been ahead of the game, molding our young girls into leaders of tomorrow.

That's funny. When I was in girl scouts, all we did was earn our cooking badge and learn to sew. We didn't learn leadership skills. We learned how to do stupid craft projects. It may be ahead of its time now. But, it has not always been so.

[kddani]

Originally posted by Tippiechick
That's funny. When I was in girl scouts, all we did was earn our cooking badge and learn to sew. We didn't learn leadership skills. We learned how to do stupid craft projects. It may be ahead of its time now. But, it has not always been so.

From what I have seen of their programming through their partnership with KD, things HAVE changed.

But I have to agree with Tippiechick, i would not say that it has always been that way. Back in the late 80's/very early 90's, when I was a Brownie and Junior girl scout, GS certainly was not ahead of their time in encouraging girls to be leaders, exploring technology, etc. The very vast majority of badges involved cooking, sewing, makeup, clothing, crafts, etc. There weren't that many badges involving technology, careers, etc. so it's not like my specific troop just emphasized certain things.

It seems that GS has been having to compete against all of the other activities young women are involved in. More and more young women are involved in sports and other activities that were once just a guy thing.

I have seen and heard about some of the changes they've made the past few years, but I don't know if any of them have stuck or been successful.

/GS hijack

[Peaches-n-Cream]

I must have been a member of a rogue Girl Scouts troop because we never sewed or sold cookies. We baked cookies once and made arts and crafts. Mostly we hung out and talked about school and listened to music especially the soundtrack for Grease. We also went on trips to the Bronx Zoo and museums, but we never went camping.

My mother was the troop leader, and it was the late 70s early 80s so that might explain things. It was a very "free to be you and me" experience.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by Contessima
Wow. Please EDUCATE yourself before you knock a wonderful organization like Girl Scouts. www.girlscouts.org

Twenty years ago was 1986 and I doubt that at that time Girl Scouts were promoting gendered socialization and traditional gender roles. If anything, Girl Scouts is typically far above other similar national programs (especially Boy Scouts, sorry guys) in promoting girls in sports, maths and sciences. The awards at ALL levels are to teach leadership, responsibility, and service. They are focused on career guidance and healthy self-images.

Just because you earned a cooking or sewing badge when you were eight years old does not mean you know anything about Girl Scouts or their program today.

I definately have a lot more to say on the issue, but I have class in eight minutes. Please take some time to explore the website, or hey, why not give your local council a call and see just what it is they do for girls and women?

That's why I asked the board how much has the Girl Scouts changed their practices, DUMBASS.

[DSTCHAOS]

From reading the posts on the Girl Scouts, it seems that the Girl Scouts is still the haven for gendered socialization. Just like the Boy Scouts is. This doesn't mean that all Girl Scouts troops still sit around singing circle songs or sewing but it means that there are still some very traditional notions of what being a GIRL/WOMAN/LADY means.

[Xylochick216]

I know there are girl scout troops out there that do the right thing, but I hated being in girl scouts. I was bored most of the time, and I got really upset when our troop leader embezzled all our cookie money. I remember my mom and I going around to my neighbors telling them their cookies would be late because of a "slight mix-up" which was really trying to get money back from the troop leader. I quit after all the money my troop had raised for 3 years was earmarked by the new troop leaders as a fund for their daughters (2 years younger) to go to Savannah when they were sixth-graders. We didn't see a dime. My mom and I decided I had better things to do than waste my time with Girl Scouts. The only girl I know who stuck it out and got her gold award did so by creating first aid kits for a school organization. Not only did she only oversee putting bandaids into boxes, she made everyone in the group buy the supplies and bring them in for her project. Most of us didn't bring anything in because we weren't going to do her project for her. Had this been for Boy Scouts, she would have had to do much more than delegate people to buy bandaids and hydrogen peroxide. She would have had to get supplies donated and done much more.

That being said, I have known troops that work hard, are progressive, and are honestly teaching the right things. Those are few and far between, though.


ETA: This is in no way anything against Kappa Delta. I think it's wonderful that they are working with GSA and hopefully trying to imrpove the program. I know it would have been nice to have someone college-aged work with my troop instead of just disgruntled mothersb who stole cookie money. Hopefully GSA can become more progressive and eliminate the disparity in prestige between the Eagle Scout award and Gold Award.

[DSTCHAOS]

They have program initiatives listed under the following categories.

Leadership and Self-Esteem
Community Outreach and Education
Environmental Awareness
Financial Literacy
Health and Wellness
Science, Technology, Engineering, and Math
The Arts
Travel

Girls don't have to join Girl Scout Troops to take advantage of this stuff, either. That's good because the individual troops might not hold up the promise that the national entity has set forth. So, the Girl Scouts as a national entity has evolved which is not necessarily an indication of how much the actual troops have evolved in their practices. "Yay" for Girl Scouts as a national entity for helping girls with their self-esteem and teaming with Dove.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally posted by Xylochick216
I know there are girl scout troops out there that do the right thing, but I hated being in girl scouts. I was bored most of the time, and I got really upset when our troop leader embezzled all our cookie money. I remember my mom and I going around to my neighbors telling them their cookies would be late because of a "slight mix-up" which was really trying to get money back from the troop leader. I quit after all the money my troop had raised for 3 years was earmarked by the new troop leaders as a fund for their daughters (2 years younger) to go to Savannah when they were sixth-graders. We didn't see a dime. My mom and I decided I had better things to do than waste my time with Girl Scouts. The only girl I know who stuck it out and got her gold award did so by creating first aid kits for a school organization. Not only did she only oversee putting bandaids into boxes, she made everyone in the group buy the supplies and bring them in for her project. Most of us didn't bring anything in because we weren't going to do her project for her. Had this been for Boy Scouts, she would have had to do much more than delegate people to buy bandaids and hydrogen peroxide. She would have had to get supplies donated and done much more.

That being said, I have known troops that work hard, are progressive, and are honestly teaching the right things. Those are few and far between, though.


ETA: This is in no way anything against Kappa Delta. I think it's wonderful that they are working with GSA and hopefully trying to imrpove the program. I know it would have been nice to have someone college-aged work with my troop instead of just disgruntled mothersb who stole cookie money. Hopefully GSA can become more progressive and eliminate the disparity in prestige between the Eagle Scout award and Gold Award.

Cookie money embezzlement is a federal offense.