State of the Union Address

[saetex]

Originally posted by Optimist Prime
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okay, so, since when is solar engery part of reporklican agenda?

you are an idiot.

and nice rudey and your statements about sheehan. that article someone posted about her being wrongfully taken out of the speech was obviously commented on by some liberal p.o.s. Wearing Political clothing, banners, etc. etc. is in extreme bad taste and is not condoned for the SOTY. It is not some republican conpiracy....to whoever said that you are a moron.

That crazy bitch is completely dis-honoring her son's sacrafice and what he did for his country. Shit, he RE-enlisted to go back and fight.

[Optimist Prime]

Originally posted by saetex
you are an idiot.

If you can't answer the question then just don't respond, there is really no need for that.

[KSig RC]

Originally posted by Optimist Prime
If you can't answer the question then just don't respond, there is really no need for that.

I'll answer for you -

a.) Conservative platforms (although not necessarily RePUBlican platforms) have never actually 'hated out' environmental reform; instead, they supported decreased governmental involvement in regulation of business (including environmental concerns). Efficient energy does not run contrary to this - instead, it is actually paramount to efficient business. Part of this is that, if the environment is really that important to people, they'll speak with their wallets, and patronize companies that realize environmental concerns. Do they?

b.) Even if it only became part of the RePUBlican party's platform yesterday, does that make it invalid? Isn't that what you WANT? If you're going to say "F- the GOP for not caring about the environment" then back it up with "F- the GOP for adding it just to look good/whatever garbage", then you're burning the candle at both ends.

-RC
--c.) 'reporklican' was also unnecessary, and really crushed your credibility.

[Rudey]

He's not looking for a real answer. He smokes pot and posts jiberrish all over Greekchat afterwards. You would think he'd STFU by now.

-Rudey

Originally posted by KSig RC
I'll answer for you -

a.) Conservative platforms (although not necessarily RePUBlican platforms) have never actually 'hated out' environmental reform; instead, they supported decreased governmental involvement in regulation of business (including environmental concerns). Efficient energy does not run contrary to this - instead, it is actually paramount to efficient business. Part of this is that, if the environment is really that important to people, they'll speak with their wallets, and patronize companies that realize environmental concerns. Do they?

b.) Even if it only became part of the RePUBlican party's platform yesterday, does that make it invalid? Isn't that what you WANT? If you're going to say "F- the GOP for not caring about the environment" then back it up with "F- the GOP for adding it just to look good/whatever garbage", then you're burning the candle at both ends.

-RC
--c.) 'reporklican' was also unnecessary, and really crushed your credibility.

[DeltAlum]

Originally posted by Phasad1913
I'm willing to bet that, as I said before, "someone" just wanted Sheehan out of the building, period and instructed the police to make it happen.

I'd find that very easy to believe, given the way all of President Bush's campaign speeches were set up -- ticketed guests only. It was a really good job by the Bush/GOP folks to sanitize the crowds from any kind of opposition. Very well done as a PR tool.

In fact, the Republicans won the PR battle during the election hands down.

Getting back on topic, though, even if Sheehan's actions were crass, she would seem to have been denied her Constitutional right to make her comment in a government/public building by government police. I would think that would violate here rights. Any of your lawyers have another read on that?

The same goes, of course, for the Representative's wife -- who might also have been a little crass.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by DeltAlum
I'd find that very easy to believe, given the way all of President Bush's campaign speeches were set up -- ticketed guests only. It was a really good job by the Bush/GOP folks to sanitize the crowds from any kind of opposition. Very well done as a PR tool.

In fact, the Republicans won the PR battle during the election hands down.

Getting back on topic, though, even if Sheehan's actions were crass, she would seem to have been denied her Constitutional right to make her comment in a government/public building by government police. I would think that would violate here rights. Any of your lawyers have another read on that?

The same goes, of course, for the Representative's wife -- who might also have been a little crass.

So you think it's easy to believe that he takes out the opposition but then say he took out someone from his side??

At which state of the union address were their people with controversial tshirts on?

-Rudey

[DeltAlum]

Originally posted by Rudey
So you think it's easy to believe that he takes out the opposition but then say he took out someone from his side??

At which state of the union address were their people with controversial tshirts on?

-Rudey

I don't understand your question. Sorry.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by DeltAlum
I don't understand your question. Sorry.

If you are removing your supporter as well as the opposition, it seems pretty damn balanced to me.

And I can't think of when a single Democrat had people with controversial tshirts sit in on a SOTU speech. You may have seen one, but I haven't so I don't see how this is any different.

-Rudey

[DeltAlum]

Originally posted by DeltAlum
The same goes, of course, for the Representative's wife -- who might also have been a little crass.

Oh, I agree with the balanced part -- see above -- but I suspect it's possible, even likely, that the Bush folks dropped the word to the Capitol Cops to be over zealous.

[Rudey]

Originally posted by DeltAlum
Oh, I agree with the balanced part -- see above -- but I suspect it's possible, even likely, that the Bush folks dropped the word to the Capitol Cops to be over zealous.

Over zealous in preventing freaks with tshirts that don't appear in STOU speeches for Dems?

Much of the left (As well as the husband that divorced her) has abandoned her after she attacked Israel, hangs out with repressive dictators like Hugo Chavez, attends rallies to "Bring down the US", and making moronic statements like calling the President the world's largest terrorist.

She has mental issues.

She should be in a hospital and not at STOU speeches for any president.

-Rudey

[DeltAlum]

Originally posted by Rudey
Over zealous in preventing freaks with tshirts that don't appear in STOU speeches for Dems?

No. Overzealous in preventing anyone with tee shirts with messages, including the Congressman's wife.

I agree it's hardly the correct thing to wear to the State of the Union Address, but it wasn't just this particular nutcase on this occassion.

I'm not sure where the Democrat thing came from -- did I mention them somewhere, except to imply that they lost the PR war in the last election?

[Rudey]

Originally posted by DeltAlum
No. Overzealous in preventing anyone with tee shirts with messages, including the Congressman's wife.

I agree it's hardly the correct thing to wear to the State of the Union Address, but it wasn't just this particular nutcase on this occassion.

I'm not sure where the Democrat thing came from -- did I mention them somewhere, except to imply that they lost the PR war in the last election?

So basically no other President, of any party, has had someone sit in his SOTU with such a tshirt but this one should have?

-Rudey

[DeltAlum]

Originally posted by Rudey
So basically no other President, of any party, has had someone sit in his SOTU with such a tshirt but this one should have?

Well, it appears there is no law and not even a written rule about it -- and the Chief of the Capitol Police said his people were wrong, took responsibility himself and apologized. I guess someone thought somebody was wrong.

My question is whether somebody close to the administration exaserbated the situation. I think you know that I would ask the same question if it had been a different President.

[Tom Earp]

Originally posted by DeltAlum
Well, it appears there is no law and not even a written rule about it -- and the Chief of the Capitol Police said his people were wrong, took responsibility himself and apologized. I guess someone thought somebody was wrong.

My question is whether somebody close to the administration exaserbated the situation. I think you know that I would ask the same question if it had been a different President.

Hmmm, easy for You to use the $5.00 words!

I just wonder if Sheehan was the only one who wore a T-Shirt (Class, Third) as it were if a Senators wife was not wearing a T-Shirt also and was rememoved.

The Local Campus Capitol COPs Stepped on their dickie doos!

I think that is being called the hated PC thing or Patriot Act crap.!

As big as this Country is, We will never be able to Keep Our Bourders Closed until We take over Canada and Mexico!


Remember, None of us have Chapters in Mexico yet!

[saetex]

Originally posted by DeltAlum
Well, it appears there is no law and not even a written rule about it -- and the Chief of the Capitol Police said his people were wrong, took responsibility himself and apologized. I guess someone thought somebody was wrong.

My question is whether somebody close to the administration exaserbated the situation. I think you know that I would ask the same question if it had been a different President.

She was "detained" (I think thats what they're calling it now) because she violated the rules of the House (NOT A LAW), rules that have been in place for over a hundred years that prohibit people in the Gallery from making loud noises or otherwise cause disruption. The House rules against this sort of thing are totally understandable (and Constitutional I might add) since its one of necessity...do you thing ANYTHING would get done without a blanket prohibition against these sort of antics in the Gallery? Her detainment was totally justifiable.


The bigger scandal in my eyes is the complete free pass the mainstream liberal media has given her recently. During the summer when she was standing out in front of Bush's ranch, they couldn't get enough of her. Now, when she is actually revealing her true colors by fucking around with such winners as Hugo Chavez & Ramsey Clark, calling Bush a terrorist & a war criminal, the mainstream media just ignores her, & won't report anything about her antics. Another example of why no one trusts the media. Thank God for the "vast right-wing conspiracy" which has been calling Cindy's bluff since she first appeared. That's the bigger issue than her fucking idiotic rants. The media liberals know that if they expose her, though, that it will only strengthen Bush's position, & they sure don't want to do that.

PLUS, SHE WAS INVITED THERE BY A LIBERAL DEMOCRAT FROM CALIFORNIA - this was no Republican scandal.