any "nice" conservatives out there?

[Sistermadly]

Originally posted by non-greek newby
Hi Everyone,
And are there any conservatives out there that can say they are not like this?

Alan Alda's character on The West Wing, but even he's a figment of our imaginations.

[ADPi Conniebama]

I might be considered a mean conservative to someone who disagrees with me. I am a "Jesus Freak", small business owner, college graduate, republican, who is farther right then Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh, I own a gun and I would use it in the case of physical harm or hunting (if the time came that it were necessary).

I own a leather coat and wonder if the day would come that a liberal tree hugger ever threw red paint on me (and they better be able to run faster then me in their canvase sneakers. {even though I should turn the other cheek}) I believe in a right and a wrong and my beliefs are based on the infallible Word of God.

I do not judge people but I do judge actions. I am pro-life, anti-gay marrage, pro-smaller government, and I know that if the United States wasnt a "Christian" Nation then this country we love would not have freedom of religion that all of the liberals love to "throw up" at all of us Christians. (also, before anyone says anything I do not think that anyone who is gay or has had an abortion is going to hell that is between them and God)

Oh and if the republican party ever moved farther to the left then it already has I will find another party that matches my beliefs and support it to the best of my ability. Because, I try to put people in power that match my beliefs politically and personally.

However, If you were to meet me you might like me, cause I am a basically nice person who stands firm on her beliefs, and at least you should respect that.

just my 2 cents (< i usually hate when people spill their guts then put that at the end of their post but it seemed to fit this time)

[honeychile]

Originally posted by KillarneyRose
I am a Conservative and I am also very nice.

Ask anyone who matters; they'll tell ya

I don't know, KR - don't you remember the night we spent kicking puppies?

[PhiPsiRuss]

Originally posted by non-greek newby
Hey MTSUGRL,
I'm gonna have to say tolerance. I may not agree with a lot of viewpoints out there in the world, but I respect the fact that people may believe certain viewpoints. However, I think my original post was just a reaction to certain people's intolerance of viewpoints and putting down those with such viewpoints, instead of merely disagreeing with them.

And lets not forget that most "liberals" are, as the old saying goes, macro-liberals and micro-fascists.

Tolerance is lacking straight across the political spectrum. Take people who call themselves "pro-choice" and advocate "tolerance." How should children be educated? In a government owned, command-and-control, structure where values are dictated. Fascist and hypocritical.

[non-greek newby]

Originally posted by PhiPsiRuss
And lets not forget that most "liberals" are, as the old saying goes, macro-liberals and micro-fascists.

Tolerance is lacking straight across the political spectrum. Take people who call themselves "pro-choice" and advocate "tolerance." How should children be educated? In a government owned, command-and-control, structure where values are dictated. Fascist and hypocritical.

I'm sorry PhiPsiRuss, I don't understand your argument. Could you elaborate a little? Thanks.

p.s. ADPi Conniebama, I love how you're a "Jesus Freak" with a gun. So ironic, yet so hillarious...

[Rudey]

99% of conservative and liberals don't know a single thing about politics. They're all talk...often stupid as well.

I figure the liberal morons won't ever matter and the conservative morons will vote for what I want at the end of the day.

-Rudey

[PhiPsiRuss]

Originally posted by non-greek newby
I'm sorry PhiPsiRuss, I don't understand your argument. Could you elaborate a little? Thanks.

Let me break it down to you like this
1) The title and premise of this thread is inherently hypocritical
2) Political leanings are no indication of intolerance or incivility, as both exists across the spectrum. This is evidenced by the reality that...
3) The overwhelming majority of American liberals really aren't liberal, and many of them are quite fascist. So pointing out intolerant conservatives (or anything) usually comes from an argument with no moral authority.

[non-greek newby]

Originally posted by PhiPsiRuss
Let me break it down to you like this
1) The title and premise of this thread is inherently hypocritical
2) Political leanings are no indication of intolerance or incivility, as both exists across the spectrum. This is evidenced by the reality that...
3) The overwhelming majority of American liberals really aren't liberal, and many of them are quite fascist. So pointing out intolerant conservatives (or anything) usually comes from an argument with no moral authority.

PhiPsiRuss, please give me specifics. I'm not one to accept random statements without reasons for them.

1)How is a thread that points out one instance of intolerance, and asks others' opinions on it, hypocritical? If you mean that I, myself, am intolerant of certain views, I think I already made myself clear that that is not the point I wanted to make and apologize if that is what you got from the initial post.

2)Unless you somehow misconstrued my statements, which it does seem like it, I never stated at any point throughtout this thread that I believed political leanings are an indication of intolerance or incivility. In fact, I am an advocate of diversity across different political beliefs and affiliations. I do believe, however, that some can show their intolerance in the way they react to others' political beliefs. i.e. Putting down the person, not the idea/belief

3)I do understand the lines have blurred within the political spectrum, which I believe makes things so much more interesting. There rarely exists any pure liberals or pure conservatives. I, myself, share beliefs with both parties on certain issues. However, to call liberals fascist is a bit of an overstatement that I believe is a little absurd --- unless, of course, you can show me that liberals are dictatorial in nature. Then you have truly disproved me and I shall bow down to your wrath.

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by hoosier
The intolerance of the liberals, as demonstrated by the Democrats:

1 - not a single pro-life speaker at the Dem Convention
2 - believing anything Michael Moore says
3 - calling Al Franken's radio show "talk radio"
4 - blaming every failure of the welfare state on "not enough money, not enough staff, and not enough time"
5 - claiming the media is biased against liberals

Yes you are so right hoosier.

1 - Do you know who Senator Harry Reid is? I would call that some pro-life leadership.
2 - I was unaware I did that. It's a good thing I have a smart conservative man like you to not only tell me how to think, but what I think.
3 - How is Al Franken anything less than Limbaugh?
4 - Um, where did you get this quote from?
5 - The media is biased against anything that isn't the media.

Would you like me to send you some of my tax refund so you can buy a clue?

[Sistermadly]

Originally posted by non-greek newby
p.s. ADPi Conniebama, I love how you're a "Jesus Freak" with a gun. So ironic, yet so hillarious...

Glad to know I wasn't the only one who saw how ironic that was.

Originally posted by ADPi Conniebama
I might be considered a mean conservative to someone who disagrees with me. I am a "Jesus Freak", small business owner, college graduate, republican, who is farther right then Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh, I own a gun and I would use it in the case of physical harm or hunting (if the time came that it were necessary).

I own a leather coat and wonder if the day would come that a liberal tree hugger ever threw red paint on me (and they better be able to run faster then me in their canvase sneakers. {even though I should turn the other cheek}) I believe in a right and a wrong and my beliefs are based on the infallible Word of God.

I do not judge people but I do judge actions. I am pro-life, anti-gay marrage, pro-smaller government, and I know that if the United States wasnt a "Christian" Nation then this country we love would not have freedom of religion that all of the liberals love to "throw up" at all of us Christians. (also, before anyone says anything I do not think that anyone who is gay or has had an abortion is going to hell that is between them and God)

Oh and if the republican party ever moved farther to the left then it already has I will find another party that matches my beliefs and support it to the best of my ability. Because, I try to put people in power that match my beliefs politically and personally.

However, If you were to meet me you might like me, cause I am a basically nice person who stands firm on her beliefs, and at least you should respect that.

just my 2 cents (< i usually hate when people spill their guts then put that at the end of their post but it seemed to fit this time)

Oh my goodness, I SOOO Love you.

[PhiPsiRuss]

Originally posted by non-greek newby
PhiPsiRuss, please give me specifics. I'm not one to accept random statements without reasons for them.

1)How is a thread that points out one instance of intolerance, and asks others' opinions on it, hypocritical?

Did you read this sentence that you wrote?

You just admitted that you cited "one instance of intolerance." One. That's all. Just one. What's the title of this thread? "any 'nice' conservatives out there?" The title of this thread implies a scope way beyond "one instance of intolerance."

As far as your statement that "I'm not one to accept random statements without reasons for them," that's exactly what you did when you used a sampling of "one instance of intolerance" to make broad, sweeping generalizations.

However, to call liberals fascist is a bit of an overstatement that I believe is a little absurd --- unless, of course, you can show me that liberals are dictatorial in nature.

This is very simple if you know what Liberalism really is. The definition of it got corrupted in America early in the 20th century. Classical liberals are never fascist. Modern day American "liberals" often are. Do a search in this forum on liberals, and you'll see what I, and others have said.

[33girl]

Originally posted by PhiPsiRuss
Tolerance is lacking straight across the political spectrum. Take people who call themselves "pro-choice" and advocate "tolerance." How should children be educated? In a government owned, command-and-control, structure where values are dictated. Fascist and hypocritical.

Lots of people (like me) are pro-choice and want as little government as possible...to me, the two naturally go together. If you're trying to make the gov't smaller you don't need to stuff a bunch of rules about reproductive rights (or lack of same) in it.

I agree with you on the laughable defnition of the word "tolerance"...but I don't think the abortion debate goes with it.

[ADPi Conniebama]

Its not ironic that I own a gun and am a Christian. Because I am a Christian am I suppose to allow my self to be robbed, or raped, NO!! Not with out a fight anyway.

LUKE 22 (RSV)
35 And he said to them, "When I sent you out with no purse or bag or sandals, did you lack anything?" They said, "Nothing." 36 He said to them, "But now, let him who has a purse take it, and likewise a bag. And let him who has no sword sell his mantle and buy one. 37 For I tell you that this scripture must be fulfilled in me,

Granted I am taking that verse a little out of context but not out of its meaning. If someone takes my cloak I am suppose to give him my shoes too but RAPE AND MURDER ARE DIFFERENT.

I knew someone would say something about the whole "own a gun thing" Don't forget I am in Alabama we get one issued at birth. (Just Kidding, I don't want to make any southern anti NRA libs getting mad at me for that JOKE)

[KSig RC]

Originally posted by ADPi Conniebama
. . . and I know that if the United States wasnt a "Christian" Nation then this country we love would not have freedom of religion that all of the liberals love to "throw up" at all of us Christians.

NO.