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Old 01-30-2006, 08:09 PM
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I guess these are pretty ignorant people, or else your "notorious" comment is inaccurate.

No. My "notorious" comment stands true. I can find more if you like.



wal-mart doesnt like to pay it's employees
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Old 01-30-2006, 09:28 PM
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Or, I am Ford Motor Company that Tells Its Employees in a Plant Area, "IF You Drive a Car other than Made By FMO", You will park across the street, not in the close parking lot!

Thank You Unions, place the Cars out of price of even the workers whom You pay.

So, the Out of Work Stats dont go up!

BS!

FMC is laying off 300,000 People. Who then buys The Cars?

Oh, They are not the only ones!
Unions don't set the price of the cars. Unions don't pay the workers either.

http://www.aflcio.org/

You can go there to learn more about unions.
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Old 01-30-2006, 09:37 PM
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Unions don't set the price of the cars. Unions don't pay the workers either.

http://www.aflcio.org/

You can go there to learn more about unions.
What Earp means is that the auto industries biggest customers are it's employees. And yes, the wages are set so the employees of Ford Motor Co. can afford to buy that new F-150 or Expedition every two to three years.
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Old 01-30-2006, 09:51 PM
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http://www.nationalreview.com/commen...0601300839.asp

... the Times own survey of American attitudes about poverty. Only 16 percent of respondents believe that their socioeconomic class is lower than when they grew up. In absolute terms, 45 percent of Americans recognize that they are really wealthier than their parents, and 38 percent say they are the same.
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Old 01-30-2006, 10:12 PM
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What Earp means is that the auto industries biggest customers are it's employees. And yes, the wages are set so the employees of Ford Motor Co. can afford to buy that new F-150 or Expedition every two to three years.
Agreed. They make much more than the average non-autoworker employee in this state because of their overtime. Triple time on a Sunday means $60 an hour. And, a few years ago, when things were good, they bought boats, cars, cottages, etc. ANNUALLY with their profit sharing checks, which were often equal to my whole salary. They can afford the cars more than anybody else can. They also get very deep discounts.
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Old 01-30-2006, 10:18 PM
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http://www.nationalreview.com/commen...0601300839.asp

... the Times own survey of American attitudes about poverty. Only 16 percent of respondents believe that their socioeconomic class is lower than when they grew up. In absolute terms, 45 percent of Americans recognize that they are really wealthier than their parents, and 38 percent say they are the same.
That's a great, unbiased source, but it does not provide any support for your assertion that "almost no adults with families are working for min. wage - except in the minds of liberal politicians." Even what you're quoting here says nothing about how many adults with families are getting paid minimum wage. Can you post something that actually supports your statement or not?
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Old 01-30-2006, 10:18 PM
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Agreed. They make much more than the average non-autoworker employee in this state because of their overtime. Triple time on a Sunday means $60 an hour.
I met a guy who worked for D-C and he told me when he worked sundays he made $93 an hour. And they bitch that they have to pay co-pay for health care now.
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Old 01-31-2006, 10:04 PM
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wal-mart humor

One day, in line at the company cafeteria, Joe says to Mike_behind him, "My elbow hurts like hell. I guess I'd better see a_doctor."
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"Listen, you don't have to spend that kind of money," Mike_replies.
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"There's a diagnostic computer down at Wal-Mart. Just give it a_urine sample and the computer will tell you what's wrong and_what to do about it.
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It takes ten seconds and costs ten dollars . . . A lot cheaper_than a doctor." So, Joe deposits a urine sample in a small jar_and takes it to Wal-Mart. He deposits ten dollars, and the_computer lights up and asks for the urine sample. He pours the sample into the slot and waits. Ten seconds later, the computer_ejects a printout: "You have tennis elbow._ Soak your arm in_warm water and avoid heavy activity. It will improve in two_weeks. Thank you for shopping @Wal-Mart."
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That evening, while thinking how amazing this new technology_was, Joe began wondering if the computer could be fooled. He_mixed some tap water, a stool sample from his dog, urine_samples from his wife and daughter, and a sperm sample for good_measure. Joe hurries back to Wal-Mart, eager to check the_results. He deposits ten dollars, pours in his concoction, and_awaits the results.
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The computer prints the following:
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1. Your tap water is too hard. Get a water softener. (Aisle 9)
2. Your dog has ringworm. Bathe him with anti-fungal shampoo.__(Aisle 7)
3. Your daughter has a cocaine habit. Get her into rehab.
4. Your wife is pregnant. Twins. They aren't yours. Get a_lawyer.
5. If you don't stop playing with yourself, your elbow will_never get better!
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Thank you for shopping @ Wal-Mart
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Old 01-31-2006, 11:38 PM
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I would never shop there nor would I invest in their stock (although the shares have done very well).

There are cleaner discount stores that don't exploit their workers.

Did anyone read that book regarding working for minimum wage jobs around the country? I forgot the title and author. The author took various low-paying jobs in different areas of the US from waitressing to Shoney's in the South to working for Merry Maids in Maine. From what I recall, she worked at Wal-Mart in MN(?)
Nickled and Dimed is the name of the book.
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Old 02-01-2006, 01:38 AM
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So you can't provide evidence in support of your assertion that "almost no" adults work for minimum wage?
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Old 02-01-2006, 10:47 AM
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If you are so dead set on it, post some proof that that proves him wrong.

Why should your word be taken at face value without proof when no else's is.
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Old 02-01-2006, 12:24 PM
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If you are so dead set on it, post some proof that that proves him wrong.

Why should your word be taken at face value without proof when no else's is.
He's the one who made the assertion, and it's not my job to back up or disprove his claims. I'm not expecting anyone to take my word at face value -- I haven't even made any claims in this thread.
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Old 02-01-2006, 01:10 PM
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Only 2.8% of American workers above the age of 30 work for minimum wage. These workers generally are not sole wage earners and live with family/parents and have access to supplemental income through the Earned Income Tax Credit.

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Old 02-01-2006, 02:20 PM
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Only 2.8% of American workers above the age of 30 work for minimum wage. These workers generally are not sole wage earners and live with family/parents and have access to supplemental income through the Earned Income Tax Credit.

-Rudey
Once again, Rudey posts a short and explicit and complete answer.

Thanks.

And I suspect a bunch of the 2.8% are handicapped, doing a good job slowly.

In the good ole days, when Hoosier was in high school, the starting wage at McDonalds was 75¢. After six weeks, a raise to 90¢.

McDonalds hamburger: 15¢ (19¢ with cheese).

One hour's pay bought five McD burgers.

Today: McD burger: $1

One hour's (at min. wage) pay buys 5 1/2 burgers.

At typical McD. pay of $7.50/hr., you can buy 7 1/2 burgers.

There's your concrete proof that today's workers are way ahead, based on the McDonald's economic index.

If this was in your textbook, it'd cost $35.99.
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Old 02-01-2006, 02:45 PM
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Ha! you remember when burgers where 15 cents??? Whatup GRAMPS!
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