sister who wants to deactivate to join another sorority

[PsychTau]

Originally posted by DaisyKLP
I wanna pose another question out there: I know that NPC bylaws state that if a girl who's in an NPC transfers she can do a local at her new school and if a girl who's in a local transfers, she can do any NPC with the exception of the ones that were on her old campus.

NPC nationally says nothing about local orgs. They are only concerned about a woman being a member of two NPC member orgs. In the eyes of NPC, a member of a local sorority is eligible for membership in any NPC sorority, regardless of which chapter was on what campus.

I'm definitely not an NPC guru (that would be PenguinTrax and some others on GC whose names escape me....), but that is what I recall from the Green Book.

PsychTau

[aopinthesky]

Originally posted by PsychTau
NPC nationally says nothing about local orgs. They are only concerned about a woman being a member of two NPC member orgs. In the eyes of NPC, a member of a local sorority is eligible for membership in any NPC sorority, regardless of which chapter was on what campus.

I'm definitely not an NPC guru (that would be PenguinTrax and some others on GC whose names escape me....), but that is what I recall from the Green Book.

PsychTau

That's what I was thinking, also Psych. I do not believe that the Green Book addresses membership in local sororities.

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally posted by DaisyKLP
I wanna pose another question out there: I know that NPC bylaws state that if a girl who's in an NPC transfers she can do a local at her new school and if a girl who's in a local transfers, she can do any NPC with the exception of the ones that were on her old campus. On a local chapter level, how many sororities here would let their members do another sorority in this respect even if it was ok by NPC bylaws. I know that my sorority has a rule that after you've pledged for a certain number of weeks, and certainly after you've been initiated, you aren't allowed to do another sorority at all.

A girl in a local could also join an NPC that had been on her campus. For example, say that I had joined one of the locals at at UW school that had Gamma Phi Beta and then transferred to Wisconsin. I could still pledge Gamma Phi Beta there.

[Buttonz]

I just read through this whole thread and this is what I think. I don't see why someone would join an NPC group, leave, and then join anthor NPC on the ame campus. Even if the girl was to transfer to a school without the first NPC, I don't see how she would be ok with joining anthor one. IMO, there is a certain amunt of loalty to your letters, and the fact that it is a national org that is known, why would someone do it?
I can undestand more if someone was to join a local, transfer, then join a NPC group at the new school, because she has no chance of getting invovled in the greek system because she was in a local and not a national. *I hope this makes sense.....*

[breathesgelatin]

For anyone who doesn't know, absolutuscchick (Rachel) was a member of a local sorority, transferred, and joined an NPC sorority--Kappa Delta.

For the NPC/NPHC thing, I think it would depend. If a woman transferred in who was an NPHC member (we don't have any NPHC orgs on my campus ), and wanted to find a sisterhood on our campus, I think we'd strongly consider her if we felt her motives were sincere and that she could be committed to both orgs. However, I don't know how her NPHC sisters would view that. My guess is--probably not so well. If an NPHC org were to come to our campus and women from our chapter wanted to join I think we'd be cool with that unless they were rude about it. I have a sorority sister who plans to join as an alum after college to the NPHC group her mother, grandmother, and sister are a part of.

[Tom Earp]

That is an interesting Question!

I am not sure of the Relationships between NPC and NHPC?

But I think over the years, they have become closer in relationshops!

Anyone help out here?

But, inbetween NIC, NPC, there is a strong line on this. Well to my knowledge!

[SmartBlondeGPhB]

<not written by me, but I thought I would share it>

Belonging to only one NPC group is one of the reasons NPC was founded. Before 1902, there were instances when women belonged to more than one. Representatives of the organizations believed in life time commitment (and still do) They did not feel a person could have a lifetime commitment to more than one organization.

[navane]

Originally posted by Buttonz
I just read through this whole thread and this is what I think. I don't see why someone would join an NPC group, leave, and then join anthor NPC on the ame campus.

As I read this thread, I was trying to figure out how this situation could happen. Of course it's against the NPC rules; but how come the second sorority didn't realize or report it to either HQ? (Or the first sorority doing the same for that matter?)


The only reason I can think of is if maybe there was some kind of drama whereby the girl felt wronged by the sisters in the first sorority and so she quit. Then, maybe the members of the second sorority sided with that girl and that's why they were willing to take her on as a new member.


Does that make sense? They knew she was a member of the other NPC, but they felt she deserved to have a better sisterhood. Something like that?


.....Kelly

[AAgammagirl]

well, how about another scenario?
this happened with a frat boy on our campus. he was a member of a frat and then that frat closed so he pledged another on the same campus.
could this be done in the NPC?
could i join Gamma Phi Beta and then if my chapter closed, join, say, AOII, on the same campus?
i would say no, personally but do the rules say anything about that?
get out your green books ladies! (sorry i don't have one!)

[honeychile]

Okay, in all seriousness, the vast majority of the women on this thread seem to agree that being in two NPC sororities is wrong, yet there doesn't seem to be a way to enforce it. Why not require a transfer student to provide (or have the "new" school's Panhel find) a waiver from the original college, stating that Pammy PNM was never a member of an NPC sorority? Would that be too legalistic? Obviously, telling the truth doesn't seem to work in all circumstances, because this isn't the first time I've heard of this on GreekChat.

[honeychile]

Originally posted by AAgammagirl
well, how about another scenario?
this happened with a frat boy on our campus. he was a member of a frat and then that frat closed so he pledged another on the same campus.
could this be done in the NPC?
could i join Gamma Phi Beta and then if my chapter closed, join, say, AOII, on the same campus?
i would say no, personally but do the rules say anything about that?
get out your green books ladies! (sorry i don't have one!)

I don't need the Green Book to know that your scenario doesn't fly. Once you've been initiated into an NPC sorority, you are a member for life. Even if you dissaffiliate, you may not join another NPC sorority.

[PsychTau]

Originally posted by honeychile
Okay, in all seriousness, the vast majority of the women on this thread seem to agree that being in two NPC sororities is wrong, yet there doesn't seem to be a way to enforce it. Why not require a transfer student to provide (or have the "new" school's Panhel find) a waiver from the original college, stating that Pammy PNM was never a member of an NPC sorority? Would that be too legalistic? Obviously, telling the truth doesn't seem to work in all circumstances, because this isn't the first time I've heard of this on GreekChat.

As long as schools kept accurate Greek records/rosters...this would be easier to do than checking with HQ of each GLO. After all, the new school would know the student is a transfer (unless that person is completely starting over incognito) and that would be on the GPA report for formal recruitment. Or it would come up if the group is checking GPAs for COB.

NPC, CPH, and schools can make rules all they want...but it's up to the individual members of the NPC groups to enforce it. Educate your members on the rules and why they are there. I'm sure during recruitment you can figure out who knows a little more about Greek life than the others, and there are ways to ask questions. Follow your gut instinct...there's no problem with checking it out discreetly.

That's my 2,000 cents!!!
PsychTau

[SmartBlondeGPhB]

Originally posted by AAgammagirl
well, how about another scenario?
this happened with a frat boy on our campus. he was a member of a frat and then that frat closed so he pledged another on the same campus.
could this be done in the NPC?
could i join Gamma Phi Beta and then if my chapter closed, join, say, AOII, on the same campus?
i would say no, personally but do the rules say anything about that?
get out your green books ladies! (sorry i don't have one!)

No, you can't. We gave our last pledge class the option of depledging or initiating the semester we were closing.

And that scenario is precisely what the rules talk about.

ETA: In Gamma Phi if your chapter closes, you become an alumna unless you transfer to another school with a chapter.

[AchtungBaby80]

OK, I have a question...I know a woman can't belong to two NPC sororities. However, there's no rule against an NPC member joining a local sorority (someone posted about this earlier). I see the reasoning behind this, but for those of you who say you can't be loyal to two groups, what's the difference? That is, wouldn't you think joining two groups would be wrong no matter if they're local or national?

I don't know where I stand on this...I see the reasoning behind the rules, but in a way I see how they could be problematic in some cases. I don't think I would've had any problem joining a local sorority if I had transferred to a school with no DZ chapter. To me, it's like being a member of both, say, a service sorority and a social sorority. Of course you wouldn't discuss business of one group with the members of another, but I can see how it would work.

[AOII_LB93]

Originally posted by honeychile
I don't need the Green Book to know that your scenario doesn't fly. Once you've been initiated into an NPC sorority, you are a member for life. Even if you dissaffiliate, you may not join another NPC sorority.

Actually I read that you can indeed join another sorority if you dissaffiliate but you have to wait 5 years or something like that...so basically you wouldn't be a collegiate anyhow. It would be more of an alum initiation thing.

And as for the guy, jeez, that is surprising a guy joining one then another. I can understand either guys or girls doing it if they never were initiated(it 's happened on my campus several times) but not being initiated and then joining? That is just plain LAME. And yes, that is my opinion.