Rio Life Part 2

[astroAPhi]

My chapter was actually formed straight off as a colony... we were never a local. If you worked quickly enough, maybe it would sort of turn out to be a situation like that.

As long as you girls prove that you're healthy, NPC may not have to wait for you to be around too long. But I'm not the NPC expansion expert, so I wouldn't know!

[AchtungBaby80]

I really don't think it would matter how long you've been around, would it? (Everybody with experience correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see how it would matter.) Many chapters start out as colonies, like astroAPhi said.

[aopinthesky]

NPC groups usually expand to a campus one of two ways. Either they absorb a local group or they colonize and pick their own members. Kappa Gamma Delta has already started up, so if an NPC group decided to come to their school and absorb them, that group would want to know that Kappa Gamma Delta is healthy and that their members can make a go of it. That is the reason they might need to be around a while, but I don't know if that means 6 months, a year, or just what, and I don't know how many members they would think sufficient. I definitely think Kappa Gamma Delta should inquire of NPC exactly what might happen because some group might be interested in your school and work something out that you would be happy with.

[Rio_Kohitsuji]

Thanks ladies for the advice

Update:
Turned in the FINALIZED consitution and bylaws, it was almost 20 pages long, to the AGC.

Next week I will be turning in the legal stuff to the Trustees Board, I really don't see a problem w/that one, they let everyone through.

Tonight Erica is coming over to look over the extension kit that NPC sent me and all, whee

[MooseGirl]

It sounds like your really on the ball! Keep up the good work; you've already accomplished so much!!

[Rio_Kohitsuji]

Just talked to the President of one of the sororities. Basically she said that the feelings of the other GLO's were this:

1. Too long of a const' and bylaws (I see no problem)
2. They do realize we are put together and serious
3. Too wordy
4. We have too many rules considering social events (We did this to cover our on butt, apparently one of the local frat's got upset over that saying they didn't have hardly any rules concerning parties)
5. ..and that we repeated ourselves, however, it sounded the same yet concerned different affairs (I'm an Educational Pre-law major, I know what I'm talking about)
6. We need more clarification on Offices, I can agree with that one.

Any thoughts?

[AchtungBaby80]

Originally posted by TKE209Sweethrt
Any thoughts?

Do you want my thoughts on your constitution or thoughts on how I don't think the other sororities/fraternities (well, the local ones) have any room to criticize?

Well, constitutions and by-laws do tend to be long. Our by-laws take up an entire booklet. And in my opinion, I'd say it's better to cover your butt with the rules concerning social occasions, and I think we all know why. That the local frat doesn't think party rules are necessary is quite obvious from what I've seen, but you're not them, so...there.

[pinkyphimu]

Originally posted by TKE209Sweethrt
Just talked to the President of one of the sororities. Basically she said that the feelings of the other GLO's were this:

1. Too long of a const' and bylaws (I see no problem)
2. They do realize we are put together and serious
3. Too wordy
4. We have too many rules considering social events (We did this to cover our on butt, apparently one of the local frat's got upset over that saying they didn't have hardly any rules concerning parties)
5. ..and that we repeated ourselves, however, it sounded the same yet concerned different affairs (I'm an Educational Pre-law major, I know what I'm talking about)
6. We need more clarification on Offices, I can agree with that one.

Any thoughts?

my question is why does the local fraternity care that you have more rules considering social events than they do? is your constitution supposed to replace theirs??? my next question is why is it any of their business what your constitution and bylaws are? maybe i am missing something, but i don't get it.

[Rio_Kohitsuji]

To answer everyones questions, here I go

To be able to petition the AGC (All Greek Council) we have to hand over a copy of our contitution and bylaws to the members that way they can look over it to confirm we are a legit organization.

But, I and the other girls believe that the people w/the most problems are the ones who really didn't read it in its entirety.

Personally I believe our consit' and bylaws are very professional and they will serve its purpose. I also think that people are just worried now, because majority just thought that we were a passing fad and we weren't really serious about it.

On the offices, I went through MANY Nat'ls bylaws and guess what..majority didn't even go through the duties for more than a sentence or two! The local's were wanting us to put for the offices of what "kind of person" should take that office and talk about character and all. I was like, well, if we put a person that is shy in something like rush chair it will help her "develop" the skills needed in such office. But apparently they believe we should have "descriptions" of what kind of people should take office. I now think that's a buch of bullcrap.

[AchtungBaby80]

Originally posted by TKE209Sweethrt
But apparently they believe we should have "descriptions" of what kind of people should take office. I now think that's a buch of bullcrap.

I think you're right.

[Rio_Kohitsuji]

I wish I would have rushed a damn sorority and not have had to do this. Well, lemme take that back a bit. I wish I didn't have to start one from scratch .

One thing that really bugs me is people that believe that we truley do not have a clue about "letters". Guess what, they don't know how we freakin' got them! Grr! Do you know how long it takes to PROPERLY "define" a single letter?? It's pain in the @$$!! Okay, I'll relax.

If you're all wondering why I'm getting kind of tense it's due to monday we are getting ALL the girls together to get them ready for the fall. We have to hand over our stuff to get through the Trustees Board (not too worried about them) and the re-hand over (once again) REVISED (for the 20th time) Consit' and Bylaws to the AGC.

Why don't some of you GCer's come on over and be our cheering section??

I'm just really getting worried now that we may not all be ready for this.

[pinkyphimu]

i'll be happy to have a "chat" with the people who are just trying to make your life miserable


if they continue to push about "describing" the offices, then you can put some blanket statement at the top that covers all of them. something like, the members who run for offices should be responsible, dedicated, and understand and are willing to take on the duties associated with each position! how's that for some bull shit? oh, and if you had to describe the kind of person in each office, wouldn't that make it longer?? lol. i really just think that these people are trying to make you crazy...so don't let them!!!

[AchtungBaby80]

I've already told you what I think--the other groups are jealous so they're trying to make your life miserable by resorting to petty things...anything to keep you all from getting voted in. They've seen that you all are serious, and that scares them! Don't give up now; you've already come such a long way and besides, won't you just love to see the looks on certain ladies' faces when you succeed?

[Rio_Kohitsuji]

You guys won't believe this!! You know on my "links" page on the website I have the respective sites of the other GLO's on campus? Well, supposedly "they" are upset that I did that! I did that to be nice, I mean, c'mon! I have -nothing- against them (even though I should for some but I've gotten over that) yet silly things like this comes up.

Oh, another thing, my good buddy said that she thinks our name is copyrighted and/or a National. I'm thinking that when she seen the "copyright" deal on one of the pages she thought it was the -name- that was copyrighted, however, the copyrighted material is the content of the site, not the name itself. It's owned by Indiana University (btw, this is w/the Asian Interest KGD, not the Pre-Med one) The only thing I could think of that she was mistakenfor was maybe Alpha Gamma Delta or even Kappa Kappa Gamma. *shrugs*

Also, I was told that we can not use any other local name that is used at some other university. I'm throughly confused by that one, mostly because I really don't see the point in that being a major obstacle. If I have time today I'm going to speak w/the Student Life advisor and see what's all going on.

Oh, good thing We all went out to eat yesterday, omigawd, it was hilarious!! we had over 12 girls crammed in a little restrauant!! It was a major blast

Oye Vey, Kayla

[AEPhiSierra]

just starting to read your thread so i am playing catch-up with my responses.

when my chapter of aephi was refounded it was by a local sorority that had formed with the intent of going national but without a specific national in mind. they were founded as the local in Spring 91. They called up all the nationals they were interested in and then picked AEPhi b/c they seemed the most interested and helpful with the process. A year later after being pledged through national they were fully chartered as a chapter by Spring 92. so i don't think nationals neccesarily prefer a pre-established local. personally i would think a new group would be preferable to an older one b/c they are less likely to be set in their ways.

as for the problems with your by-laws and constitution they are probably just nit-picking to get on your nerves. All they should be concerned about is that you have enough structure to keep the organization stable and that you have taken risk management precautions. Honestly just give them what they want - in most schools while you have to get your initial constitution and bylaws approved they have no say in any changes you make after your charter has been approved.