the right to choose

[NinjaPoodle]

Originally posted by Dove Gal

But do not exclude NPHC out because they are only for black people. There was an article in Ebony magazine about a year and half ago about white members in NPHC fraternities and sororities.

For the record, NPHC's are NOT ONLY for African Americans. We have NEVER been.

[cash78mere]

dionysus, i think you know better. you are not fooling anyone

[Dove Gal]

Ninja Poodle I was just going back to what Smiley said that NPHC are exclusively for one race, I was just trying to point out that NPHC include all races. But I do see where you are coming from by the way I worded my anwser.

[LatinaAlumna]

I went to a large, (supposedly) diverse university with lots of sorority options. While the majority of NPC women were caucasian, there were a fair amount of women of color in some of the houses. My campus in California was a little more open to this. Although I considered going through NPC rush, I decided against it. One question that went through my mind was this: Can I live with joining an organization that would give me a bid in California, but would cut me right away if I were in the state of ______ ? How could I happily be an XYZ in California, knowing that a woman just like me somewhere else wasn't even given the opportunity to show her qualities?

I've seen several threads on this board with postings from NPC women who are appalled at the discriminatory practices of their XYZ chapter in another state, so I know it does happen, even in 2003. I also realize that some people might call ethnic based or focused GLOs exclusionary as well. I am just speaking to my personal situation, and I felt that by joining a Latina sorority, I knew that I wouldn't be denied membership due to my skin color, and if I didn't "make it", it would be due to some other reason.

I am in no way saying that all NPC sororities engage in discrimination, and many are truly diverse. But when someone asks whether she should go NPC or NPHC and some else responds "depends on where you go to school"...well, in my mind, this is problematic.

[Steeltrap]

Originally posted by Dove Gal
Ninja Poodle I was just going back to what Smiley said that NPHC are exclusively for one race, I was just trying to point out that NPHC include all races. But I do see where you are coming from by the way I worded my anwser.

I think this just shows one thing: The only people who should speak for their respective conferences are members of the respective conference/organization, whether NPHC, NPC, NIC, NALFO or another.

That's how misunderstandings, IMO, really start on this board.

[Serenity]

Smiley, like everyone else, I think you should do what's best for you. However, if you are interested in being in an organization that is not on your campus, you could try to contact them and find out the process for starting a new chapter. That's another option. Just don't "settle".

Make sure you find an organization you love (NPC/NALFO/NPHC/etc.) and want to represent for a lifetime and take it from there.

Good luck!!

[12dn94dst]

Originally posted by Serenity
Make sure you find an organization you love (NPC/NALFO/NPHC/etc.) and want to represent for a lifetime and take it from there.

Good luck!!

This is for ANYONE thinking about pledging. Piggy-backing off this statement and echoing some of what has been said, don't get caught up in the small picture of the chapter. You're going to be in that CHAPTER for only 2-4 years. You're going to be a member of that ORGANIZATION for the rest of your LIFE.

[33girl]

Originally posted by LatinaAlumna
I went to a large, (supposedly) diverse university with lots of sorority options. While the majority of NPC women were caucasian, there were a fair amount of women of color in some of the houses. My campus in California was a little more open to this. Although I considered going through NPC rush, I decided against it. One question that went through my mind was this: Can I live with joining an organization that would give me a bid in California, but would cut me right away if I were in the state of ______ ? How could I happily be an XYZ in California, knowing that a woman just like me somewhere else wasn't even given the opportunity to show her qualities?

I've seen several threads on this board with postings from NPC women who are appalled at the discriminatory practices of their XYZ chapter in another state, so I know it does happen, even in 2003. I also realize that some people might call ethnic based or focused GLOs exclusionary as well. I am just speaking to my personal situation, and I felt that by joining a Latina sorority, I knew that I wouldn't be denied membership due to my skin color, and if I didn't "make it", it would be due to some other reason.

I am in no way saying that all NPC sororities engage in discrimination, and many are truly diverse. But when someone asks whether she should go NPC or NPHC and some else responds "depends on where you go to school"...well, in my mind, this is problematic.

Hell, even without the racial question, I KNOW there are chapters of my sorority that wouldn't have given me a bid, and women in other chapters I might not have chosen for sisters. That used to kind of bother me, but how big of a thing would "sisterhood" be to brag about if we were all the same? Getting along with people who share all your views and have similar personalities and backgrounds is easy. It's when you meet someone that you never in a zillion years thought you would even talk to and can find something in common with that you know how strong that sisterhood is.

[Tom Earp]

AstroPhi, give my Brothers of LXA at Fl.Tech a big high for me!!!!!!! I was there for their 30 th Founders Day and what a hell of a gr4at bunch of Brothers! I am now an Honoray Memeber of The B N Chapter!

Smiley, I think you could never find a site to get better responses and insight than this!

All I can say, is check all of the Soroitys out!

I dont care what they are, you will find the fit that makes everyone feel good! But please join one as it will be one of the greatest times of your life! You will learn not only books, but how to organize, interact, donate, and manage!

Please let us know how everything comes out. Beleive me, We are all interested as we are a very big Family!

[MysticCat]

Originally posted by smiley21
my school doesnt have multiracial sororities.
the ones that are on campus:

alpha chi omega...

It does seem worth pointing out that one of Alpha Chi Omega's distinguished alumnae was the subject of a cover profile in Newsweek last week: Condoleezza Rice.

Good luck, smiley21. Keep an open mind and go with your instinct, and I bet it will all work out!

[smiley21]

thank you guys for all of your help. i dont remember who said it, but it was pointed out that if i knew the real reason to join a sorority then i wouldnt have asked this question. i dont think that is a fair judgement. i just didnt like the idea of having the pressure or just being expected to join a predomiantly black sorority. i just wanted to know how i would be accepted in the npc sororities. everyone that is in a black or a multiracial sorority, please dont be offended. personal reasons why i am thinking like this i will keep to myself. but dont think that i am predjuiced or something.

[Optimist Prime]

Good luck with rush

[Optimist Prime]

Originally posted by smiley21
thank you guys for all of your help. i dont remember who said it, but it was pointed out that if i knew the real reason to join a sorority then i wouldnt have asked this question. i dont think that is a fair judgement. i just didnt like the idea of having the pressure or just being expected to join a predomiantly black sorority. i just wanted to know how i would be accepted in the npc sororities. everyone that is in a black or a multiracial sorority, please dont be offended. personal reasons why i am thinking like this i will keep to myself. but dont think that i am predjuiced or something.

Hey... What is the real reason to join a sorority? Sisterhood, right? Go where you fit in.

[White_Chocolate]

Originally posted by NinjaPoodle


For the record, NPHC's are NOT ONLY for African Americans. We have NEVER been.

i must say that is true

zeta phi beta and sigma gamma rho were the first ones that i saw with non-black members. the rest have followed suit.


one band. . .one sound. ..

[AXO Alum]

[AXO Alum in her best singing voice holding a candle at the front door...]

"Sisterhood and Charity....Friendship and Sincerity....these are the things that make Alpha Chi...."

Like the others have said, we have all kinds because it takes all kinds. We have red and yellow black and white....you get the point I assume We have a few "legacies" from other groups (both NPC and NPHC) groups in our sisterhood because they wanted to go where they felt they belonged, and they found us for their home. It is a choice that only YOU can make. I will say this - if you are made to feel uncomfortable at a house during recruitment or other introduction type event because of the color of your skin, then you will know that there is a BETTER place for you outside of those four walls.

{Quick shout-out to NinjaPoodle....haven't talked to you in FOREVER, but still love your name }

AXO ALUM .... stressing the ALUM part for the misinformed....