Can you be pregnant....

[GPhiSweetiePie]

Originally posted by Munchkin03
I'm just glad it's not me. I'd hate to go to the doctor for a backache and find out that it's twins.

I am laughing so hard at this!

[Queencece]

Originally posted by GPhiSweetiePie
I am laughing so hard at this!

I am too. That was a classic line!

To the person that said that a woman had a baby and was in a bikini just hours earlier....you tell her that she is ONE lucky lady. I, personally, dont know anyone who could have pulled that off.

Q

[Dionysus]

Originally posted by PM_Mama00
Here's one.

If a girl is having sex regularly, and she takes her pill regularly give or take 10 minutes and has never missed one....

She was supposd to start taking her white pills on Sunday, but she never takes those, and she has sex on Monday.

Can she become pregnant?

Dayum...you have another one coming?

[AKA_Monet]

First off, I have never been pregnant, so I cannot fathom what actually happens when one becomes pregnant.

Second, I am only a lowly Ph.D. research scientist that studies molecular genetics and cardiovascular biology--genes and chromosomes... So, I do not have the utmost expertise in the area of reproductive biology as it relates to the human female other than what I experience on a monthly basis.

However, as I understand it:

A ovulation and menstruation may not necessarily be tied together genetically... You can do the Entrez-PubMed search if you would like...

There are at least 10 different hormones a "normal" ovulating female who is NOT on birth control pills or any other reproductive or hormonal medication. Of those, the important ones regulating both ovulation and menstruation are:

Estrogen--increases while not menstruating
Progesterone--peaks during menstruation--and relative increases during pregnancy
Testosterone--not just for men anymore--plays a significant role in ovulation
FSH--follicle stimulating hormone--acts early during ovulation
LSH--Lutienizing stimulating hormone--acts toward the end of ovulation tract
and Gonadotropin--acts on many different levels

Some pregnant women have a regular period, as if it on the latter days of the menstruation cycle--the regular Always pads--not the Always with wings Super overnights for used for daytime 'cuz a period is chunckily horrendous with migraines and evil attitudes... Then the period wanes as the pregnancy continues...

Some women are spotty thru out their pregnancy and use the pantyliners...

Some women are the textbook example of a pregnancy...

Every woman varies during her pregnancy and that may be genetically predisposed. Most the time, a woman's reproductive cycle is similar to that of her mothers--including the fibroids and hysterectomies.

Women who get pregnant on the pill usually are taking them incorrectly, however, there is evidence that ovulation can be irregular in some women and these women constantly ovulate even while taking a low dosage estrogen analogs. High dosage estrogen analogs taken correctly typically turn off the ovulation schedule.

Moreover, some antibiotics interfere with the effectiveness of the pill. Meaning the estrogen analog cannot turn off the ovulation schedule because the antibiotic drug is in the way--to explain it colloquially. One antibiotic is tetracycline and its analog drugs.

If a woman becomes pregnant while on estrogen analogs, it may severely harm the fetus. The child that is born can have birth defects--the baby's skull does not form--anencephalopathy. That is why most drug manufacturer's recommend a doctor's consult if a woman suspects pregnancy while on the pill.

What happens while a "normal" woman who has regular monthly menstruation, the estrogen analog is really high--for some breast cancer researcher it is too high. When a woman stops the estrogen analog, it is like a complete drop in that hormone. What the body does is try to compensate all month long with all the other 10+ hormones that cycle regularly--one being progesterone. When the estrogen analog drops, progesterone sky-rockets up and that signals to the uterine wall, the endometrium, to slough off--hence, causing menstruation.

So in essence, the young lady described as to not taking the white pills and has UNPROTECTED intercourse with a man, is most likely NOT to be impregnated. Typically, for most women, it takes 5-14 days for the FULL estrogen analog effects to wear off in the body. But it differs from woman to woman.

Typically, a woman may be unable to become pregnant during her menstruation, especially if she is taking the pill. However, there are cases of several women getting pregnant while menstruating... PM me if you have questions...

How a spontaneous abortion (miscarriage) occurs is not well understood. It is thought that a severe genetic abnormality can trigger a miscarriage--like instead of a normal 4 celled embryo, one has a 5 celled embryo. There may be toxic substances or necrotic (dead) material on the endometrium.

ABO Blood groupings and Rh factors have nothing to do with the propensity to become pregnant. If anyone has that kind of conceptualization, then I suggest that this person goes on the Maury Povich show and get the DNA test required...

[SparkliiQTMTSU]

I have known 2 girls who actually became pregnant while on the depo shot which I totally thought was impossible since you have like no type of period at all.


Nichole

[Munchkin03]

In my reluctance to spring forth shaggy-haired existentialists who are the spitting image of the Boy, I am a big believer in multiple methods of contraception. Freak accidents can happen, to be sure. But, when in doubt, use more than one method.

[polarpi]

Originally posted by SparkliiQTMTSU
I have known 2 girls who actually became pregnant while on the depo shot which I totally thought was impossible since you have like no type of period at all.


Nichole

There is still the possiblity of having a period/"spotting" with the depo shot.....my mom gets the shot and she begins spotting almost two weeks before she's due for her next shot (it all depends on if the person administering the shot gives the range of dates or a specific date for getting the next shot). As for pregnancy with the shot, I have no idea how that works.....

[gphiangel624]

I have known 2 girls who actually became pregnant while on the depo shot which I totally thought was impossible since you have like no type of period at all.

I'm no science major or anything, but from everything I've ever read and heard from reliable sources (teachers, doctors, professors, etc), NO method of birth control is 100% effective, except complete abstinence (and even then I wonder, which I'll get into in a sec). And last I read, depo provera is only 99.7% effective, so thinking of how many people are having sex and how often, that 0.3% is pretty damn big. Just my take on it.

Now my questions for this esteemed group of people:

1) A high school friend of mine had a sister who never had sex, but became pregnant. Doctors verified that she had never had sex after learning of the pregnancy. The story goes that she and her boyfriend had been fooling around after swimming, all she had on was a bikini whereas he had nothing on, he did not ejaculate, but, as is likely to happen, some pre-ejaculation must have gotten just a little to close, and she ended up having the immaculate conception.

How likely is this and does it really even sound that true (I never knew well enough to know for sure)?

2) Ortho Tri-Levlen is a b/c pill that's extremely similar to Ortho Tri-Cyclen. I was on this pill (first tri-cyclen, then tri-levlen) and went off of it recently (about a month ago). When I originally went on the pill, I gained weight, about 15 pounds and never really got it off. So now that I'm off the pill, how likely is it that I will lose weight, if at all? What's the average amount of weight lost, if any and how long does it take to make a difference? I'd really love to get some opinions on this.

[sugar and spice]

Originally posted by gphiangel624

1) A high school friend of mine had a sister who never had sex, but became pregnant. Doctors verified that she had never had sex after learning of the pregnancy. The story goes that she and her boyfriend had been fooling around after swimming, all she had on was a bikini whereas he had nothing on, he did not ejaculate, but, as is likely to happen, some pre-ejaculation must have gotten just a little to close, and she ended up having the immaculate conception.

How likely is this and does it really even sound that true (I never knew well enough to know for sure)?

I've heard of this happening -- I remember reading an article in some teen magazine by a girl that this happened to. I don't think it's very likely at all, but it's probably possible. Stranger things have happened.

[KSig RC]

Originally posted by sugar and spice
I've heard of this happening -- I remember reading an article in some teen magazine by a girl that this happened to. I don't think it's very likely at all, but it's probably possible. Stranger things have happened.

um, depending on the distance (and the pH, temp, etc of the water) . . . as well as your particular religious background . . . stranger things may NOT have happened (ok, maybe once).

Sperm can only survive in a very regulated environment - think of how specialized the scrotum is, for example

[AKA_Monet]

I personally think the the Depo shot and its race to get it out on the market was too fast. How can Depo be approved by RU-486 can't?

Either way, the damage done to one's body is enormous!

At any rate, only persons who ought to be taking Depo shots are sex offenders!

[Munchkin03]

Originally posted by AKA_Monet
How can Depo be approved by RU-486 can't?

Either way, the damage done to one's body is enormous!

At any rate, only persons who ought to be taking Depo shots are sex offenders!

RU-486 was approved in either late 2000 or early 2001. The anti-abortion bloc in this country is powerful enough that most women don't have access to it, or cannot take it as necessarily prescribed.

I didn't know they prescribed Depo as a form of chemical castration till I saw it on Law and Order. That in itself is pretty damned scary--if it does that to men, what else does it do to women? Exactly how damaging is it?

[AKA_Monet]

Originally posted by Munchkin03
RU-486 was approved in either late 2000 or early 2001. The anti-abortion bloc in this country is powerful enough that most women don't have access to it, or cannot take it as necessarily prescribed.

I didn't know they prescribed Depo as a form of chemical castration till I saw it on Law and Order. That in itself is pretty damned scary--if it does that to men, what else does it do to women? Exactly how damaging is it?

RU-486 cannot be used for abortions... You said it yourself... Many researchers have the drug and use it on animals for whatever reason, but it is not approved for the use in humans...

I cannot begin to fathom what havoc Depo shots could do to a woman's reproductive tract...

But hey, some women like to get busy and not suffer having unwanted pregnancies... So hey, all I got to say is protect yourself at ALL times...

My concern is with Sexual Transmitted Infections like HIV...

I nearly got cursed out asking how a woman who found out she had HIV because her first child was born with AIDS--but on her second child's birth, the child was HIV-free because the mother took AIDS antivirals during her pregnancy... I was like, WTF, HOLD UP--HOW IS SHE GETTING PREGNANT THE 2ND TIME??? And she cain't affort any Artificial Insemination or SIF??? And the MD researchers were like, we have NO idea what AIDS antiviral cocktails do to the unborn fetus...

Oh well...

[AOII_LB93]

Originally posted by gphiangel624


1) A high school friend of mine had a sister who never had sex, but became pregnant. Doctors verified that she had never had sex after learning of the pregnancy. The story goes that she and her boyfriend had been fooling around after swimming, all she had on was a bikini whereas he had nothing on, he did not ejaculate, but, as is likely to happen, some pre-ejaculation must have gotten just a little to close, and she ended up having the immaculate conception.

How likely is this and does it really even sound that true (I never knew well enough to know for sure)?

Ok, I'm certainly no science major, but this seems pretty darn preposterous. I'm not calling you a liar by any means, it just seems a little far fetched...Maybe the guy was Clark Kent and had super sperm that could leap through swimsuits in a single stroke.

[OUlioness01]

it can happen. it's very rare, but it is possible.

i know way too much about bio for someone who hates science with a passion.